(10-27-2022, 10:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Isn’t that exactly what Bullock does?  It is pretty much all Dorian does also.  Even Maxi falls into this in certain lineups where another big is doing the pick-setting for the ball handler.  

(10-27-2022, 11:14 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Its not groundbreaking...but DFS, MAXI, Bullock and Green are too many high minute guys that underwhelm offensively.  

DFS and his 3 shot are great these days so that should save him a chair.  I understand Maxi's unique size and mobility and defense are very good for playoffs.... 

I would give Green serious minutes with the starters and evaluate which player between Green and Bullock is truly more impactful for the team.

I would not be afraid to package 2 of the 4 in a deal for a more well rounded offensive player that is capable of attacking on offense...even if they are not asked to do that.   

(10-27-2022, 11:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve been cautious about posting this as I know it will be universally disliked, but I tend to suspect Bullock will be part of the outgoing if we make any substantial trade before the TDL or next summer.

(10-27-2022, 11:56 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Im not a stats guy and I dont know how to analyze stats so my stat math could be extremely flawed...

But it looks like bball-reference box stats(not advanced stats, dont know what they suggest) show that Green put up similar stats as Bullock playing half the minutes.

Bullock averaged 6 attempts and 2 makes from 3 point range last year averaging 28 minutes a game.   Are we sure Josh's defensive impact and hustle impact dont outweigh Bullocks ability to get off 6 3 attempts a game for a total of 8 point average for the season?

Seems like getting turnovers and/or hustling down loose balls to put the ball in Lukas hands for points would outweigh 8 point average or the ability to shoot 6 3s a game.   My analytical skills are non-existent though.

Im not trying to hate on Bullock...nor am I pro-Green...Im just trying to see what might help Mavs.

(10-27-2022, 10:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Isn’t that exactly what Bullock does?  It is pretty much all Dorian does also.  Even Maxi falls into this in certain lineups where another big is doing the pick-setting for the ball handler.  

As some point you have to acknowledge standing in the corner is a system choice rather than a player shortcoming.  So, I don’t see the logic that says Josh can’t play the same exact role as the player he subs in for because Josh should be doing more when we don’t hold Bullock to the same standard.

(10-27-2022, 12:39 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: It is only 3 games but I have been disappointed so far.  Not even 10 points for the season and he gets very little touches.   It comes a point where Josh needs make it impossible for the team to not give him 20 plus minutes a night.   A lot of players are in this spot.  Some do it, others don't.  Heck, Jalen was in this spot.  Jalen always got minutes but there was always people in the organization that wasn't completely sold on him or didn't think he should start.  Jalen made it impossible for the team not start him.  That takes a lot of mental toughness.   Lets see how Green responds.

Personally, I think he is better suited in a fast paced offense with a lot of ball movement and cutting.   Having him run to the corner and waiting for the ball with bended knees and hands ready is not the best role for him.  I have no idea why we don't try to play fast.  The few times Luka tries this, I think it is fun.

(10-27-2022, 11:14 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Its not groundbreaking...but DFS, MAXI, Bullock and Green are too many high minute guys that underwhelm offensively.  

DFS and his 3 shot are great these days so that should save him a chair.  I understand Maxi's unique size and mobility and defense are very good for playoffs...but you cant even pass him the ball...nor should you unless hes wide open behind the arc.  There is a high chance he fumbles the ball for a turn over or makes an errant pass.  I lean on cutting his minutes to only necessary minutes when you have to stop the bleeding in a playoff setting and his defense is the only way to possibly stop the bleeding.  I would give Green serious minutes with the starters and evaluate which player between Green and Bullock is truly more impactful for the team.

I would not be afraid to package 2 of the 4 in a deal for a more well rounded offensive player that is capable of attacking on offense...even if they are not asked to do that.   I want guys that arent substandard on offense in the case there is a loose ball and it lands in their hands they can take advantage of a scoring opportunity.  4 guys with heavy minutes that cant take advantage of a scoring opportunity is hindering the team.  Of course the new guy would have to be average to above average on defense...but at least have better offensive skills than the 2 players outgoing.

I dont care about scheme or Playoff basketball and the ball only being in Luka, Wood or Spencers hands...you cant leave meat on the bone with guys that cant take advantage of a scoring opportunity that 95% of other average NBA players capitalize on.  

Move 2 of the 4.

(10-27-2022, 11:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve been cautious about posting this as I know it will be universally disliked

(10-27-2022, 01:20 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Sounds like a plug for THJ.  Not afraid to take shots!!

(10-28-2022, 12:48 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Nice game for Josh.

He did pass on one open shot, but over-all he did well.

Active on both ends. Kidd needs to give him more minutes.

And Josh in the fastbreak is like a muscle car. He needs to leak out more and get the Mavs some easy 2s.

(10-27-2022, 10:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Isn’t that exactly what Bullock does?  It is pretty much all Dorian does also.  .

(10-28-2022, 02:15 AM)Jommybone Wrote: It doesn’t seem evenhanded to point to JG’s shortcomings in his 60 minutes of playing time this season without also pointing out that he leads the team in FG% (83%) and 3-point % (80%), excluding players who only played 1 game in garbage time (Tyler Dorsey, 100%).

Yes, his 5/6 from deep is a small sample. But so is his passing up of shots this year. 

His 3.0 scoring efficiency is also pretty amazing. That’s 18 points on 6 FG attempts for the season. Hard to do better than that.

(10-28-2022, 01:49 AM)F Gump Wrote: Green's Simmon's-like refusal to shoot the open shot is what has been rendering him worthless in half the game.

(10-27-2022, 11:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve been cautious about posting this as I know it will be universally disliked, but I tend to suspect Bullock will be part of the outgoing if we make any substantial trade before the TDL or next summer.  Bullock and Powell can turn a $26mm player into $5mm next year given the Bullock partial guarantee.  And, the receiving team can sell their fans on the important role he played on a team that made the WCF’s last season.

Part of why this can work is he’s probably the most replaceable among out 7 high minute guys.  If we bring in a starter level two-way player, someone has to sit.  Reggie’s age and contract status mean he’s not committed to in the same way others here are.  Hardaway is a sell-low situation.  Bullock has a favorable contract for trading and is probably at the peak of his powers from a trade asset standpoint.  To me, the question is whether they find a deal before the TDL or wait until the draft (the decision on his partial guarantee has to be made by 6/28).