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RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - cow - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:16 PM)Hypermav Wrote: Pinson or Burke. I think the ties are strong.
Pinson is a two-way, no?
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Hypermav - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:13 PM)Kammrath Wrote: My quick takes on the trade:I choose to be glass half full right now. I liked KP but I understand he was not a max player and was injured too often.
1) KP needed to go. This was apparent IMO for over a year. Getting off of him is the single greatest accomplishment here.
2) Bertans is a better player than KP IMO, especially for what Luka needs. I don't know why he hasn't been good this year. But in the previous 3 seasons Bertans was the better player IMO.
3) Both Dinwiddie and Bertans this year are shooting better from three than KP is shooting from three this year.
4) The contract sizes for Dinwiddie/Bertans are much better for futures trades.
5) Dinwiddie has the potential for being a good value if he can find his game again from 2019-20.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - KillerLeft - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:16 PM)Hypermav Wrote: Pinson or Burke. I think the ties are strong.
Pinson is on a two-way. That doesn't work.
Burke...maybe, but I doubt it.
I honestly think it will be Ntilikina, who has almost completely fallen out of the rotation.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - SatnamSingh - 02-10-2022
What's the worst contract Toronto has? I wouldve taken that + Dragic.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Mavs2021 - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:15 PM)Dova Wrote: Would we cut Burke for Dragic?
Nah either Ntilikina or Green. The need to get older is also a long standing Mavs tradition.
I´ll keep you all updated on whether my stomach is Nostradamus or I just ate bad food, cause my gut started to hurt 30 minutes after my evening meal and 30 minutes before this trade came through.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - sidi - 02-10-2022
Hi silent reader from Germany here,
i have lost so many hours of sleep waching our mavs. I cant take no more. Getting rid of KP is okay. But fot two player who are worse and cost even more. Horribile.
It is so sad to see Cuban doing just shit. To hope for better results in the near futere is hopeless. The mavs have done one good trade in the last 10 years.
I am so frustrated. Its not that KP is gone but this shows how bad our FO (Cuban) is. We are pretty good this season, our center rotation ist Dwight Powell that´s it. Just Dwight Powell.
Im realy sad in side, but im done with mavs (atleast for near future)
I wish you all best, your great guys
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Kammrath - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:16 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Just on talent alone KP is still the best player in this deal.
I would take Bertans over him and stated as much over a year ago when WAS interest in KP first leaked. I truly think if healthy, Bertans is the better player to put alongside Luka.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Mavs2021 - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I would take Bertans over him and stated as much over a year ago when WAS interest in KP first leaked. I truly think if healthy, Bertans is the better player to put alongside Luka.
You know that Bertans was born with orange hair, cause he´s a human traffic cone, right?
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Hypermav - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:17 PM)cow Wrote: Pinson is a two-way, no?
Yeah, so Burke. Which is fine with me. I just think Luka will get him here.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - soog - 02-10-2022
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss the “we love our boys in blue” mantra…
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 02-10-2022
Wait for the trade reviews.
Mavs gets an F (and they deserve it).
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - hakeemfaan - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I would take Bertans over him and stated as much over a year ago when WAS interest in KP first leaked. I truly think if healthy, Bertans is the better player to put alongside Luka.
It does not matter what the status was a year ago. We are talking about now and even if you believe Bertans fits better, you have to ask Wizards for a FRP and not budge. They are desperate as well. That’s the part the MBT continues to fail at. They always act as if the other team is doing a favor on us.
Let’s look at Nico’s background as well. He was fortunate to work with players that Nike had already handpicked. I am not saying he didn’t do a good job there but it is different than playing high stakes poker with another GM. You need a bit of a shark in you. Donnie did not have that. So far it does not seem that Nico does either.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - cow - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I would take Bertans over him and stated as much over a year ago when WAS interest in KP first leaked. I truly think if healthy, Bertans is the better player to put alongside Luka.
Bertan's skillset is a sharpshooter and he's just under 32% from three for the year. He makes the rest of our bigs looks like Dennis Rodman on the glass and on defense. There is no way we should have put a pick in this package.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Jym - 02-10-2022
I personally give Luka permission to eat whatever he wants for the rest of the season.
Blow back up to 270 if you want. The next couple seasons don't matter
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - haveitall - 02-10-2022
The worst trade in franchise history.
KP was a defensive stud this year averaged 19ppg, almost 8rpg, and 1.7 blocks.
Dinwiddie is shooting .376 FG% , has a horrible contract and is basically worse than trey burke right now.
Bertans is shooting .351 FG%, has a horrible contract and is on par with Nico Melli and has played less games than KP.
Combined these guys are scoring 18PPG. These are two of the worst contracts in the NBA.
FIRE Nico Harrison
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Chicagojk - 02-10-2022
Bertans took tough shots in Washington. I think if you put him in a role where he takes Kleber's looks off Luka's passes, he will be fine and hit a high percentage. But he just doesn't do enough of other stuff to warrant his contract. He is a bench piece and will remain a bad contract even if he hits shots. Not a plus defender either.
I actually like Bertans more than Dinwiddie though. Really discouraging hearing that Mark has wanted him for a while. Yuck.
Just can't imagine we are going with our current front court down the stretch. This year is a wash with that front court.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - MaxiThreeba - 02-10-2022
You know it's a Mavs (Cuban) trade when the initial reaction to reports is "there must be picks involved" and then 5 minutes later you find out there is a pick...and the Mavs are the ones giving it up.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - Omega_Supreme - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:17 PM)Hypermav Wrote: I choose to be glass half full right now. I liked KP but I understand he was not a max player and was injured too often.
I hated KP more here more than I hate this trade so I am finding the silver lining in that.
The Mavs got two guys that fit better with what we need and better movable contracts.
Hopefully THJ is next.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - cow - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:24 PM)Jym Wrote: I personally give Luka permission to eat whatever he wants for the rest of the season.
Blow back up to 270 if you want. The next couple seasons don't matter
I'm ordering double queso for all of my mavsforum friends.
RE: TRADE: Dinwiddie+Bertans to DAL | KP+2nd to WAS - haveitall - 02-10-2022
(02-10-2022, 03:26 PM)MaxiThreeba Wrote: You know it's a Mavs (Cuban) trade when the initial reaction to reports is "there must be picks involved" and then 5 minutes later you find out there is a pick...and the Mavs are the ones giving it up.
Amazing