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RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Smitty - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:56 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: So the Mavs offer is less money spread out over more years? That’s embarrassing and insulting if true. The Knicks offer is supposedly 4/110. Minus 41 home games at 8.5% state income tax, it’s the equivalent of Mavs offering 4/105. JB getting a 5th year PO to guarantee another 20M dollars right now is nothing to scoff at. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Winter - 06-30-2022 [b]JUNE 30, 10:04am:[/b] The Heat have now put out word that they never had a meeting scheduled with Brunson and don’t intend to meet with him today, according to local reporters Ira Winderman, Tim Reynolds, and Anthony Chiang. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - soog - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 01:50 AM)Branduil Wrote: About the $125 million, my two questions are #1) Who leaked it? and #2) Why? Hearing the $125M yesterday told me this is far from over like the media is reporting. It became clear this isn't just the reporting of news, but a very real and very public negotiation for JB's next contract. Given... 1) expected future salary cap growth, 2) the lack of other FA guard options, 3) and the fact that some of the Mavs larger contracts roll off over the life of that contract ... I actually wouldn't be surprised if JB is back next year. That was an olive branch his management team just extended to mavs leadership. Put me down for the bold prediction of JB re-signing with the mavs RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - sefant - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:59 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: JB granting an audience to get the Knicks out of tampering charges. Shouldn't the Mavs be working on getting a T-MLE target done to replace him as best as possible? Doing a meeting for optics feels pretty dumb. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 06-30-2022 Miami can’t pay Jalen outright, right? Why would we work to get him there. His agent is a nobody (as far as I know). Duncan Robinson can’t even stay in the rotation since he got paid. Herro is a no defense, less durable Version of JB. Why would we pay him 25m and not Brunson? Whole thing is strange. F’ Miami RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - JamesConway912 - 06-30-2022 https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1542524893652086786?s=20&t=1bDluT16kkxJP6bgSm-_GA RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 06-30-2022 Ahh just read that post saying Miami not involved at all. Either someone was fed/made up erroneous info, or Rick Brunson is outta control. This whole circus seems very amateur ish and below the dignity of the seemingly very professional Jalen Brunson RE: BRUNSON BURNER: All Things Jalen | Jeff Wade: 99% chance JB to NYK - Jmaciscool - 06-30-2022 (06-28-2022, 03:26 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Personally I think at this point in the process, if you're an agent of a player in Brunson's situation and you don't have his team thinking that he's likely going to bolt for another team then you're not doing your job properly. Jmac, you're a decent poster and incredibly good looking, but don't get your hopes up that this is happening just because there's now a meeting scheduled with the Mavs and Skin is talking about the 1% chance. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - BigDirk41 - 06-30-2022 I will be disappointed if Cuban doesn't offer 5/125. Like others have pointed out, it never should have came to this, but Cuban needs to make that offer. It may be too little too late, but he can't low ball his own players. I'm curious to see the backup plan if Jalen goes to the Knicks. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: All Things Jalen | Jeff Wade: 99% chance JB to NYK - dirkfansince1998 - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 10:57 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Jmac, you're a decent poster and incredibly good looking, but don't get your hopes up that this is happening just because there's now a meeting scheduled with the Mavs and Skin is talking about the 1% chance. Most stuff I read today mentions it as a formality to avoid tampering charges. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: All Things Jalen | Jeff Wade: 99% chance JB to NYK - Jmaciscool - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 11:01 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Most stuff I read today mentions it as a formality to avoid tampering charges. Yeah, and that's probably more realistic, but I'll continue to hope until the ink is dry RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Chicagojk - 06-30-2022 Cato is lowering expectations per his article in the Athletic Some of his thoughts *Said it is almost a certainly he signs with the Knicks. * not clear if Brunson would return even if we matched the knicks offer. *As of Tuesday Dallas had not been prepared to increase their offer. *Finley was the main advocate for drafting Brunson in 2018 *when dallas decided not to offer 4 for 55 it was based on the thought the deal they could have signed him to was less value than the opportunity cost of potential trades they could pursue with him involved. *Team sources has expressed surprise and dismay at how much the KNicks are prepared to offer him. Some other stuff....really reads how badly Dallas was caught with their pants down. Can't happen. And it happens a lot. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - ItsGoTime - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 11:02 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Yeah, and that's probably more realistic, but I'll continue to hope until the ink is dryI’m still in the camp that the Mavs chances are at 50%. It looks like there isn’t gonna be a dark horse that I thought there would be, so NY now owns the full other 50%. It probably does come down to the money, but I am questioning and conspiracy theorizing everything related to this whole fiasco. Almost feels like Donnie Nelson is running the campaign to get JB paid! RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Jmaciscool - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 11:15 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I’m still in the camp that the Mavs chances are at 50%. It looks like there isn’t gonna be a dark horse that I thought there would be, so NY now owns the full other 50%. It probably does come down to the money, but I am questioning and conspiracy theorizing everything related to this whole fiasco. Almost feels like Donnie Nelson is running the campaign to get JB paid! TBH, my realistic thought is that there is a list of things that JB wants (run his own team, $$$, winning, working with his dad, etc) that neither Dallas nor NY can completely fulfill. I imagine he has a certain (different) number in his head of what he would accept to play for each team based on how many checkboxes that team checks and how many things he would have to give up. I think it's pretty clear that the number to sign with the Mavs is much higher than the number to sign with the Knicks, and the Knicks have already matched Jalen's number of what would make it work for him to sign there. The Mavs pretty clearly did not (initially) match the number Jalen had to sign with them and that's why all signs pointed to him signing with the Knicks. My hope is that the Mavs have communicated that they are raising their offer to match up with what Jalen had in mind and that is why he called the meeting in order to see the final pitch and determine the actual best fit. I agree that avoiding tampering could be the main purpose, but in reality I think it's pretty easy to avoid tampering charges as long as they don't announce the contract at 6:01 EST, so I'm not sure that setting up a meeting really makes a difference with tampering. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Dirknows - 06-30-2022 If Cuban doesn’t want to pay Brunson, then wtf is his plan B? RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Moviemavguy - 06-30-2022 Miami not being part of the meeting pretty much signals he is going to NY. My god, all this drama over Brunson. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - cow - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 11:29 AM)Dirknows Wrote: If Cuban doesn’t want to pay Brunson, then wtf is his plan B? GPII RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Dundalis - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:47 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Been reading all the posts from the last 24 hours and just thought I'd put my random, uninformed dirty dozen comments out there... Dallas never had any interest in JB being here long term, signed or not signed. He is the first piece dangled in any trade talks, confirmation that he was offered in the package of picks to try and get Haliburton, just about confirms it IMO. If they played their cards right, they have a very appetising JB on an attractive contract that they move the first opportunity they get. They stuffed that up, but bottom line is, I don't think anyone at the Mavs wanted JB here long term, they will just wished they had locked him up sooner and cheaper so they could be at the table for deals for better players than they will now. It was a bad situation the Mavs put themselves in, but they lost a trade asset and not a long term piece plain and simple IMO. JB was never going to stay in Dallas one way or the other. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - MrGoat - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 11:29 AM)Dirknows Wrote: If Cuban doesn’t want to pay Brunson, then wtf is his plan B? Actually run with THJ, figure out what we have with Wood. Round out the roster with a little extra defense. Avoid the sunk cost fallacy and don't cap the team's long term ceiling by severely overpaying the Mo Williams to Luka's LeBron just because he did the same thing to Utah Reggie Jackson did last year without Kawhi RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - ThisIStheYear - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 10:05 AM)Smitty Wrote: The Knicks offer is supposedly 4/110. Minus 41 home games at 8.5% state income tax, it’s the equivalent of Mavs offering 4/105. JB getting a 5th year PO to guarantee another 20M dollars right now is nothing to scoff at. Well, since the Mavs apparently offered 5/106, even with an incomplete analysis taking only one tax/fee/charge into account, the Mavs numbers don’t add up. I wonder if the Mavs are serious at all? The next test of competence will be converting this into a sign and trade and salvaging a decent asset. If they can’t even manage that, the the Mavs are just chumps. |