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RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Branduil - 06-30-2022 About the $125 million, my two questions are #1) Who leaked it? and #2) Why? It's hard to see why anyone would leak it except for someone in Brunson's camp. So that goes to the why, in which case it's either a) Brunson legitimately will stay if Cuban offers that number b) He knows Cuban won't offer that number, and is laying the groundwork for (proper) blame when he leaves If b is true, then the only response should be that Cuban needs to be run out of town immediately, before Luka forces his own way out. $25 million per year for Brunson is more than a fair price, and more importantly keeps together the team that made the WCF. It is impossible to imagine this team winning titles with such a cheapskate owner. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - HoosierDaddyKid - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 01:50 AM)Branduil Wrote: About the $125 million, my two questions are #1) Who leaked it? and #2) Why? Agreed. Cuban should at least try to keep the band together. Oh my bad, he didn't do that in 2012. Dallas made the WCF this year, but they'll be hard pressed to have a return visit next year. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - phiL - 06-30-2022 At the rate of 22+ per year i would just let him walk if money is so important to him over winning. Imho there is a big risk we end up with a very expensive very situational guard who can run the show only in regular season or vs special matchups and could be quite useless against defensive teams (see the GSW series) RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - mvossman - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 01:34 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Honestly I'd say the first 3 years of that deal is market value, while the last two are slight overpays imo. The cap will be a lot bigger in 4 or 5 years and Brunson will still be in his prime. That is a reasonable contract for a guy that projects to be an efficient 20 a game scorer that can create for himself and others on offense while not being a huge negative on defense. That contract would be an asset and very tradeable unless Brunson regresses significantly. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Reunion Mav - 06-30-2022 What if we know that Jalen does not want to sign here? If that is the case then allowing numbers to get out is easier than saying I prefer my own team and New York (or Miami) is that. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - DanSchwartzgan - 06-30-2022 (06-29-2022, 11:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1542366065065345025 Duncan Robinson...well that answers that question (not that Miami is the most likely outcome). He matches the 50% of Brunson if Brunson starts at a slightly higher number than has been discussed (with 50% being something like $13.44mm) or if Dallas sends out another contract and Brunson stays in the $12's. The question is how do you get the other $5mm or so needed to match the Miami incoming. Could be S&T Oladipo to somewhere. With the Harden number coming in in the $30's, Philly could also take S&T Tucker instead of the 76'ers using the MLE on him. Next question...does Robinson at upper teens for the next few years make sense on this roster? It doesn't feel right, but unless it happens, we'll never know if they would have considered it or not. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 06:44 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Next question...does Robinson at upper teens for the next few years make sense on this roster? It doesn't feel right, but unless it happens, we'll never know if they would have considered it or not. Not without further moves. Would need to move Bertans and/or THJ. I think Robinson is a better pure shooter than both but in the playoffs he wasn´t able to stay on the floor. Not big enough to guard SF/PFs. Not quick enough to guard PG/SGs. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Chicagojk - 06-30-2022 Heat have ways to make something out of nothing. It is Interesting they are included. I play hard ball if I am the mavs and we will not help you here. I don’t want Robinson who fell out of favor with Heat. We will see what happens. Heat have no way of clearing salary right? You always have to watch the impossible with them. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Chicagojk - 06-30-2022 Would you rather go first or last? Mavs don’t need to wait until free agency opens right, but other teams do. Why not take him sightseeing around NY all day RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Okstate819 - 06-30-2022 Want no part of Robinson’s remaining contract but would consider something like Lowry + Oladipo (s&t) for Brunson (s&t) + Bertans. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - KillerLeft - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 06:44 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Next question...does Robinson at upper teens for the next few years make sense on this roster? It doesn't feel right, but unless it happens, we'll never know if they would have considered it or not. Not in my opinion. He hasn't even been playing consistently for Miami, sometimes falling completely out of the rotation. THJ is a much better player, for my money. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - ItsGoTime - 06-30-2022 Ya, the onus is on Mia to bring us a trade that brings back something we want in the unlikely scenario that JB chooses them. Bring in a 3rd team if they have to, but Robinson is not the type of wing we have been targeting. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Dirknows - 06-30-2022 I still can’t believe Cuban is going to let Brunson walk without making any attempt to give him a better offer than the Knicks. What an idiot. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - KillerLeft - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:25 AM)Dirknows Wrote: I still can’t believe Cuban is going to let Brunson walk without making any attempt to give him a better offer than the Knicks. What an idiot. To be fair, there is a meeting today. It's probably naive of me, but I'm holding out the tiniest bit of hope that after working the phones this week and seeing what (little) there is out there for them on the trade market, they might have reconsidered and decided to pony up some more cash. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Jmaciscool - 06-30-2022 I find Miami's inclusion annoying because it feels like if they want a player they just get him. Pat Riley just looks at the menu and orders what he wants. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Smitty - 06-30-2022 Who here honestly thinks JB at ~21M next year is worse than him not being on the team, that just went to the WCF, and lost to a dynasty Warriors team? RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - Jmaciscool - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:33 AM)Smitty Wrote: Who here honestly thinks JB at ~21M next year is worse than him not being on the team, that just went to the WCF, and lost to a dynasty Warriors team? The answer to this depends on whether or not Cuban reads these forums. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - michaeltex - 06-30-2022 Been reading all the posts from the last 24 hours and just thought I'd put my random, uninformed dirty dozen comments out there...
RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - ThisIStheYear - 06-30-2022 So the Mavs offer is less money spread out over more years? That’s embarrassing and insulting if true. RE: BRUNSON BURNER: JB to NYK for 4yrs/$110M? | Mavs offered 5/$106M? - hakeemfaan - 06-30-2022 (06-30-2022, 09:56 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: So the Mavs offer is less money spread out over more years? That’s embarrassing and insulting if true. JB granting an audience to get the Knicks out of tampering charges. The Mavs giving an offer that they know he will refuse but can claim they tried their best. Both sides know what the deal is and looking out for their own agendas. |