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RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Branduil - 08-07-2021
(08-07-2021, 10:55 PM)Mapka Wrote: Yeah or it's just the NBA officials looking at the prearranged S&Ts.Could be another team, or multiple teams. Could just be an expansion of the original complaint as it's basically the same thing.
Or who does Ball fit in there?
I definitely don't believe the NBA just decided to look at this on their own... they absolutely prefer to look the other way, given their blatant hypocrisy and fundamental lack of enforcement of all tampering rules.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Mavs2021 - 08-07-2021
(08-07-2021, 10:55 PM)Mapka Wrote: Yeah or it's just the NBA officials looking at the prearranged S&Ts.It´s funny, but I think the main problem the NBA has with all of this, is that it´s a total buzzkill. They build up expectations, rumours and within 24-48 hours it´s all done. It doesn´t play out in public anymore. Gosh remember all the f´n VAJ drama. In the past the NBA dictated the news for at least a week or two, now it´s barely two days.
The whole process needs to be reviewed from all sorts of angles. Maybe you do it like soccer. Six months before a pending free agency a player is free to negotiate new deals with other teams without the consent of his current team and already allowed to sign a deal.
Everything longer than six months out, the chasing team has to ask the current team for permission to approach the player, which can be accepted or denied. That way the releasing team is also officially aware of the specific interest and can now decide whether they want to trade the player immediately or still run down the contract. That´s a pretty simple rule. YES or NO, there is no grey zone, where the agent´s dentist talks to the florist of the player´s mother.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Mapka - 08-07-2021
(08-07-2021, 11:10 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It´s funny, but I think the main problem the NBA has with all of this, is that it´s a total buzzkill. They build up expectations, rumours and within 24-48 hours it´s all done. It doesn´t play out in public anymore. Gosh remember all the f´n VAJ drama. In the past the NBA dictated the news for at least a week or two, now it´s barely two days.
The whole process needs to be reviewed from all sorts of angles. Maybe you do it like soccer. Six months before a pending free agency a player is free to negotiate new deals with other teams without the consent of his current team and already allowed to sign a deal.
Everything longer than six months out, the chasing team has to ask the current team for permission to approach the player, which can be accepted or denied. That way the releasing team is also officially aware of the specific interest and can now decide whether they want to trade the player immediately or still run down the contract. That´s a pretty simple rule. YES or NO, there is no grey zone, where the agent´s dentist talks to the florist of the player´s mother.
Good point about the buzzkill.
But Kawhi is still out there and should cause drama and the contract extensions didn't help either.
About soccer. The six month before thing always causes to much of bad drama. Players harrased by their own fans, or being reached out on just before important games.
Just think about rumors about CP3 leaving just in the middle of the finals and him playing bad then.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Kammrath - 08-08-2021
https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1424218029005557763
https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1424218045807960070
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Kammrath - 08-08-2021
OT:
https://twitter.com/SlangsOnSports/status/1424150004642549760
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Kammrath - 08-08-2021
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1423735090450997256
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Kammrath - 08-08-2021
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424437967494471692
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424437974494744579
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424438136017408000
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424438278766354432
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Mavs2021 - 08-08-2021
Pelicans: Sure you can take a 1st round pick. Which one do you want? One of ours, we also have five from the Lakers and five from the Bucks.
NBA: You already punished enough by agreeing to the trade.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Bayliss - 08-08-2021
Unless they enforce it in the playoffs, it is just lip service. It's like them calling "traveling" on NBA players. Sure they call it maybe once every now and then but it is not enforced.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - KillerLeft - 08-08-2021
(08-08-2021, 01:51 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1423735090450997256
Hey...we might never reach a consensus of good vibes around here about the Mavericks.
But I'm sure we can all agree that at least they aren't the Rangers.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - fifteenth - 08-08-2021
Was a new smarter person hired to run officiating?
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Mavs2021 - 08-08-2021
(08-08-2021, 02:02 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Hey...we might never reach a consensus of good vibes around here about the Mavericks.
But I'm sure we can all agree that at least they aren't the Rangers.
The only Rangers I care about are Walker and Trivette.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - AgGiE1991 - 08-08-2021
(08-08-2021, 02:29 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: The only Rangers I care about are Walker and Trivette.
https://images.app.goo.gl/DiUbyRm24cSBxibJ7
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - Mapka - 08-08-2021
(08-08-2021, 01:54 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424437967494471692
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424437974494744579
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424438136017408000
https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/1424438278766354432
Good luck to the Refs with this. Instead of ruling off the flopping, they take away the skillgame.
Why call anything here? Everything is a no-call and things will settle with time.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - MFFL - 08-08-2021
(08-07-2021, 01:29 PM)Tyler Wrote: Can you imagine the chaos if both Lowry and Ball are sent back to their previous teams and banned from joining Miami and Chicago? How many other teams and players would that affect in terms of subsequent deals? And what would the market for Ball and Lowry look like now that all of the FA money is already spoken for?
I sorta love it.
Both players would sign with the Lakers for the minimum
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - KillerLeft - 08-08-2021
Have teams stopped signing players, or has the Clutchbot just stopped posting tweets?
Who's left out there with hat in hand, looking for a job?
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - cow - 08-08-2021
(08-08-2021, 10:47 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Have teams stopped signing players, or has the Clutchbot just stopped posting tweets?
Who's left out there with hat in hand, looking for a job?
![[Image: lakers-dennis-schroder.gif]](https://c.tenor.com/_V0stZ4t9AwAAAAM/lakers-dennis-schroder.gif)
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - omahen - 08-09-2021
This is how one analyst sees quality of players in the league. The only Mav in the 80-125 range is THJ (barely made it) and we can be reasonably sure only KP and Luka are in the 1-80 range yet to come. No Maxi, DFS, Bullock,...
https://theathletic.com/2737630/2021/08/09/nba-player-tiers-the-top-125-players-ranked-in-groups-from-lebron-james-to-ivica-zubac/
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - SleepingHero - 08-09-2021
(08-09-2021, 08:55 AM)omahen Wrote: This is how one analyst sees quality of players in the league. The only Mav in the 80-125 range is THJ (barely made it) and we can be reasonably sure only KP and Luka are in the 1-80 range yet to come. No Maxi, DFS, Bullock,...
Pretty interesting to see him so low on guys like Maxi and DFS while simultaneously putting Kelly Olynyk and Bruce Brown in that same range.
RE: AROUND the NBA: MIA/TOR & CHI/NOP under investigation for tampering - mavsluvr - 08-09-2021
(08-09-2021, 11:46 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Pretty interesting to see him so low on guys like Maxi and DFS while simultaneously putting Kelly Olynyk and Bruce Brown in that same range.
There is a certain degree of arbitrariness to assessments like this, which the author acknowledges.
I think articles like this are most useful looked at from a more big picture point of view, as opposed to what particular details might be arguable.
I think here, the larger point is that championship teams tend to have a certain amount of high-level talent among several of their top players, and the Mavs really don't. I don't think that's too surprising a conclusion. Hopefully, they can work on that from several different angles.