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RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - ItsGoTime - 02-25-2022

With Barnes, the issue with the contract isn't the size, it's the length and will he sign here after 1 year, and I covered that in one of my posts.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Mavs2021 - 02-25-2022

A 6-2 OT. That must have been some brilliant defensive efforts by the Thunder and Pacers. Big Grin Wink


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Kammrath - 02-25-2022

(02-25-2022, 09:38 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: A 6-2 OT. That must have been some brilliant defensive efforts by the Thunder and Pacers.


Whether it is intentional or not, it pisses me off to see RC doing the "tank" properly in IND. The failed "tank" during Luka's rookie season still pisses me off.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - SleepingHero - 02-25-2022

(02-25-2022, 10:16 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Whether it is intentional or not, it pisses me off to see RC doing the "tank" properly in IND. The failed "tank" during Luka's rookie season still pisses me off.



That's a weird way to look at. Did you ever consider it's harder to lose games when you have Luka Doncic playing 30mpg on your team?

The Mavs were also 26-35 at game 61.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Kammrath - 02-25-2022

(02-25-2022, 11:27 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The Mavs were also 26-35 at game 61.


The wins @ MEM, @ OKC, and to PHX in the last two weeks were inexcusable. Mavs should have had a top 5 pick.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - SleepingHero - 02-25-2022

(02-25-2022, 11:30 PM)Kammrath Wrote: The wins @ MEM, @ OKC, and to PHX in the last two weeks were inexcusable. Mavs should have had a top 5 pick.

I mean the win against PHX was Dirk's final home game. You HAVE to win that game to honor Dirk and his legacy. 

The MEM game was the Salah Mejri game where he made a game winning block. Hard to game plan around that. 

The OKC win had Trey Burke playing 12 mins and Ryan "the Accountant" Broekhoff playing 10 mins. I mean sure he could've thrown in Kostas or someone. I can't really remember that game, but I'll concede they should've lost this one.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - HoosierDaddyKid - 02-25-2022

(02-25-2022, 07:36 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: It´s a legit debate. Russell and Chamberlain have the raw numbers but pace and possession adjusted Rodman is better. Interestingly one current player is also in the mix when we look at rebounding percentage. Andre Drummond.

https://skepticalsports.com/the-case-for-dennis-rodman-part-14-c-rodman-v-ancient-history/

They were talking about Drummond the other day on a podcast. He is considered one of the all-time great rebounders and he's just 10 years in.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - dirkfansince1998 - 02-26-2022

https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1497448540024422400


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - omahen - 02-26-2022

(1) Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter: "ESPN Sources: The San Antonio Spurs and point guard Tomas Satoransky have agreed to a contract buyout, clearing the way for him to sign a free agent deal with the Washington Wizards." / Twitter


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - SleepingHero - 02-26-2022

(02-26-2022, 08:39 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1497448540024422400

This is so funny. 

Lebron walking off staring at the ground contemplating why he ever traded for Westbrick was a sight to see.

(02-25-2022, 11:53 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: They were talking about Drummond the other day on a podcast. He is considered one of the all-time great rebounders and he's just 10 years in.


Drummond is a fantastic rebounder, and a guy I have my eye on for a bench big. He can't really defend. But catch lobs and rebound? We need that. He'd be better than Chriss imo.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Kammrath - 02-26-2022

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1497708919258497024


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Kammrath - 02-26-2022

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1497721485258940425


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - dirkfansince1998 - 02-27-2022

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm

Just for fun. NBA released RPM numbers for 21/22. No clue if they changed the formula again.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - Kammrath - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 07:51 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Just for fun. NBA released RPM numbers for 21/22. No clue if they changed the formula again.


Random observations:

RB at -1.26 (-1.23 on D) seems way off. KP also feels too high on both ends. Luka's D seems high.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - mvossman - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 07:51 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm

Just for fun. NBA released RPM numbers for 21/22. No clue if they changed the formula again.

I completely stopped looking at that when I found much better advanced stats (EPM, Lebron, Darko).


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - mvossman - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 08:22 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Random observations:

RB at -1.26 (-1.23 on D) seems way off. KP also feels too high on both ends. Luka's D seems high.

Bullock at -1.23 on D is way off.  KP is really high on all of the advanced stats (Lebron had him as an all-star until he missed too many games).  They also all think Luka's D is much better this year.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - mvossman - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 11:25 AM)mvossman Wrote: Bullock at -1.23 on D is way off.  KP is really high on all of the advanced stats (Lebron had him as an all-star until he missed too many games).  They also all think Luka's D is much better this year.

I think part of the reason KP is so high in the advanced stats is the work he did when Luka was out.  I think he was the biggest reason we stayed afloat (maybe even more than Brunson) during that period.  He actually did provide value to this team contrary to some of the opinions on here, he just was not a good fit.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - SleepingHero - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 11:33 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think part of the reason KP is so high in the advanced stats is the work he did when Luka was out.  I think he was the biggest reason we stayed afloat (maybe even more than Brunson) during that period.  He actually did provide value to this team contrary to some of the opinions on here, he just was not a good fit.

This was by far the best season KP has had since the short stint in the bubble. But even in his best season he had to sit out multiple times.

I do find it a little curious that he hasn't played for the Wizards yet. He's listed as day to day but general knee soreness shouldn't keep someone out nearly a month.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - ItsGoTime - 02-27-2022

Ya, I’m very glad to have him off the team for injuries alone. Add the fit issues and it’s even more relief. However, when he played, he did more good than bad, IMO.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Knicks/Kemba agree to sit out | CP3 out 6-8 weeks - SleepingHero - 02-27-2022

(02-27-2022, 01:57 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ya, I’m very glad to have him off the team for injuries alone. Add the fit issues and it’s even more relief. However, when he played, he did more good than bad, IMO.


Listened to KOC and Rob Mahoney pod on the Ringer podcast network (The Void if anyone wants to check it out! Always interesting guests). 

And they were talking about the KP trade and what it meant for the Mavs. Mahoney essentially praised the front office for having the wherewithal and maturity to admit a mistake and attempt to fix it. 

Now they weren't willing to say a return of Dinwiddie+Bertans was anything to write home about unless you truly believe Bertans has a renaissance in shooting and Dinwiddie returning to form. 
What I found the most interesting was Mahoney bringing up a point I largely agreed with, and that was: 

Quote:These days, it’s not enough just to be a 7-footer who can shoot. Every unicorn has to find a way to survive in a league that has learned to hunt them.

They both specifically mentioned KP's stagnation in his development of game and he's has really not adapted at all to this new NBA. Mahoney summarizes "if a team can get away with putting a SG or SF on you and you can't abuse that matchup consistently, you're no better than Ryan Anderson who was chased out of the league for that exact reason" 

I am a huge KP fan. I believed in each successive season that this will be the one where everything clicks. But what those guys said couldn't have been more accurate, and looking at it from that POV, then I'm not surprised KP's value was so low.