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RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 10:46 PM)JamesConway Wrote: Dwight Powell was penciled in as the starting big man before his achilles injury. He’s healthy now. They signed him to pair up with KP.
I think the answer is right in front of us here.
We all know about the strong lineup data on the KP/DP duo from the 2019-2020 season.
I totally agree that this could be the thinking, but:
We know KP has complained about being a spacer (sometimes by name and other times referring to himself as a “decoy”). If Powell/Luka are the main foundation of the offense again, that is exactly what KP will be.
We know KP has said he prefers to play the 5 on offense because he likes to be in “trail position.” He likes those early opportunities to play off of Luka in secondary transition, in other words, also known as “early in the clock 26-ft 3’s”.
We know that Kidd has said he wants to get back to what KP was doing in NY “when he was having fun.” To me, this means KP having the ball in his hands, either in the low post or face-up in the extended free throw line areas. What’s Powell doing while this is happening, standing in the corner? Who would guard him there? If he’s standing in the dunker spot on the other side, where’s the space for KP to do anything?
Idk…I get where you’re coming from, and it’s kind of what the tea leaves are whispering to me, too, but I see a ton of conflicting info if this is the case.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Branduil - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:09 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I think they'd have to clear quite a bit of room to fit THJ, Bullock (no longer MLE...), Holmes, and Sterling Brown. They would then have the rMLE and the BAE to go after a bought out Dragic.THJ - $16 million
Bullock - $10 million
Brown - Just change from BAE to Room Exception
So that leaves about $6 million in room. I think the Mavs would need to clear about $9 million to get Holmes.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - JamesConway - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:10 PM)Mavsfan7 Wrote: Or Cuban’s gone cheap! Doubtful, but it’s the only other explanation other than they have another deal in place.Mavs haven't paid the luxury tax in a LONG time. Remains to be seen if they will in the Luka-era.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Kammrath - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:13 PM)Branduil Wrote: So that leaves about $6 million in room. I think the Mavs would need to clear about $9 million to get Holmes.
If that. Might only need $5M more.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Branduil - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:15 PM)Kammrath Wrote: If that. Might only need $5M more.I guess the extreme option would be to stretch-waive Powell.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - fifteenth - 08-04-2021
I remember a report a while back saying that Dallas balked at sending WCS and Powell. Why would they need to send both. That report made me think something other than just Dragic was in play.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Mavsfan7 - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:13 PM)Branduil Wrote: THJ - $16 million
Bullock - $10 million
Brown - Just change from BAE to Room Exception
So that leaves about $6 million in room. I think the Mavs would need to clear about $9 million to get Holmes.
Are we sure they would have $6 million in space? I thought they had $30.5 million with WCS. Subtract $26 and you’d be left with $4.5 million. Trade WCS and Burke and you have $11.5 million. I believe that is a higher starting salary than what Sac can offer.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Scott41theMavs - 08-04-2021
This could turn into a far better offseason if the Mavs find some way to acquire Holmes and/or Jackson and/or Dragic. And of course it's an A if KP is outgoing.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - cow - 08-04-2021
Hope is eternal.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Kammrath - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:22 PM)cow Wrote: Hope is eternal.
So is despair. Your choice.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - fifteenth - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:23 PM)Kammrath Wrote: So is despair. Your choice.
TRUTH sneaking into the bball forum!
Having said that...don't put your hope in basketball!!!
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:14 PM)JamesConway Wrote: Mavs haven't paid the luxury tax in a LONG time. Remains to be seen if they will in the Luka-era.
A decade. An argument can be made that Cuban IS cheap already, and has been for a long, long time.
As you say, it remains to be seen whether this is the case since there is juuuust enough logic to the "it hasn't made since to spend" for that length of time to give that theory credibility.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - cow - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:23 PM)Kammrath Wrote: So is despair. Your choice.
I'm not in despair though.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - dirkfansince1998 - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:27 PM)fifteenth Wrote: TRUTH sneaking into the bball forum!
Having said that...don't put your hope in basketball!!!
Or your money.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - JamesConway - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:12 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I totally agree that this could be the thinking, but:
We know KP has complained about being a spacer (sometimes by name and other times referring to himself as a “decoy”). If Powell/Luka are the main foundation of the offense again, that is exactly what KP will be.
We know KP has said he prefers to play the 5 on offense because he likes to be in “trail position.” He likes those early opportunities to play off of Luka in secondary transition, in other words, also known as “early in the clock 26-ft 3’s”.
We know that Kidd has said he wants to get back to what KP was doing in NY “when he was having fun.” To me, this means KP having the ball in his hands, either in the low post or face-up in the extended free throw line areas. What’s Powell doing while this is happening, standing in the corner? Who would guard him there? If he’s standing in the dunker spot on the other side, where’s the space for KP to do anything?
Idk…I get where you’re coming from, and it’s kind of what the tea leaves are whispering to me, too, but I see a ton of conflicting info if this is the case.
They (happily) committed nearly $200M to this frontcourt with extensions.
They value payroll hierarchy a lot. Also you can’t play 5 out all the time with KP. The offense gets stale, that’s probably the conclusion after last year. And when we assume KP can’t roll to basket for whatever reasons (skill and health are both factors Imo) then, well, you’ve once again arrived at DP being the solution.
I really think this is what is being planned here. It’s probably also the easy option for Nico to fall back on. Playing it safe with a large chunk of the old roster and some low risk additions.
If things go south he’ll won’t have dug himself a hole with expensive contracts and it’s pretty easy to point towards the bad asset base and contracts he was dealt with.
Heck he can easily sacrifice Kidd, too, without taking damage as he was mostly the guy Cuban and hus group of advisors wanted here immediately after RC was gone.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Kammrath - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:28 PM)cow Wrote: I'm not in despair though.
Didn't mean to imply that. Was just riffing off your comment.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:28 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Or your money.
Unless you have A LOT of money and can get this team away from Cuban.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Scott41theMavs - 08-04-2021
Of course, the whole issue with dumping salary for Holmes and/or Jackson is, how much does it cost us?
And of course the worst-case scenario is dumping contracts with assets so that we can sign... KO. Ugh.
RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - Kammrath - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:29 PM)JamesConway Wrote: KP can’t roll to basket for whatever reasons
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RE: MAVS NEWS: DAL has $10.866M TPE | DAL wants Dragic as free agent not trade - KillerLeft - 08-04-2021
(08-04-2021, 11:29 PM)JamesConway Wrote: They value payroll hierarchy a lot. Also you can’t play 5 out all the time with KP. The offense gets stale, that’s probably the conclusion after last year. And when we assume KP can’t roll to basket for whatever reasons (skill and health are both factors Imo) then, well, you’ve once again arrived at DP being the solution.
I really think this is what is being planned here. It’s probably also the easy option for Nico to fall back on. Playing it safe with a large chunk of the old roster and some low risk additions.
Yeah, I'm not really disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out that it doesn't seem like a plan Porzingis will like. If this is the case, I'm not sure it bodes well for the idea that KP will be a happy camper (who's effective again) this season.
(08-04-2021, 11:31 PM)Kammrath Wrote:
Dude, it would solve so many problems if he and Luka could just play off of each other. Wouldn't solve the defensive issues, but at least there would be somewhat of a reason to attempt to work around them.