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RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | - Kammrath - 02-15-2022 https://twitter.com/bobbykaralla/status/1493797930104508432 RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | - Arioch - 02-16-2022 (02-15-2022, 10:47 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1493783132981452800 Right back at you. Few victories are as sweet as wins over Miami. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1493956872545738754 RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1493951044472168451 RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1494038857960075264 RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - SleepingHero - 02-16-2022 https://twitter.com/dfwticket/status/1494053113002659847?s=20&t=dvbS9EJpT1jZn0mEecRoYA Really good listen here of Nico answering a bunch of questions.
Seriously don't get that logic. If the question is between Frank vs. Dragic in the playoffs, I'd pick Dragic every time. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - F Gump - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 09:55 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1493951044472168451 This is encouraging feedback. But it's also refreshing, to see the team is being remade into something different that's better, and basically by better coaching (words I never thought I'd say after RC left). RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - vfromlmf - 02-16-2022 Spoelstra's comments also directly contradict what a lot of posters on this board seem to think the Mavs need: size. Sure, we traded a 7'3" guy for a 6'5" guy and a 6'10" guy ... but Dinwiddie is a big and long guard; while Bertans has length to bother guys (and snap a quick release three against anyone). Direct quote from Spo "They did have a lot of size. That's what makes them unique". RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Really good listen here. Sure sounds like a guy who is the GM and not one who is just changing the internal structures of the organization. Really appreciated how Nico was VERY careful not give other organizations the impression they were shopping KP in order to keep rumors from flying. He accomplished that for sure. Also super interesting how they "scout" the opposing team's lockerrooms. Nico continued to hammer the "flexibility" part of the trade (as well as "depth"), and how it gives them an easier ability to move and contracts in the future. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/dfwticket/status/1494053113002659847?s=20&t=dvbS9EJpT1jZn0mEecRoYA I doubt Dragic wanted to sign here, because we are not seen as a legit contender, so I give the new MBT credit for just stepping away from it rather than getting embarrassed again. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: -Said that "We weren't shopping KP. And we didn't throw out his name first" *(sounds like posturing to me to be honest as this contradicts a lot of reports by Stein, McMahon, etc.) Felt like he was lying a little bit there, but it also rang true. It was incredible that the first time KP's name came up was from Jake Fischer within hours of the trade deadline. Nico was clearly being very careful not to give other teams the impression they were shopping KP. He did a hell of a job with that. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Kammrath - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Seriously don't get that logic. If the question is between Frank vs. Dragic in the playoffs, I'd pick Dragic every time. As Stein reported back in October, the Mavs have "big plans" for FN and really think he has a future in the league. Burke on the other hand? I would dump him for Dragic, but not sure there are enough minutes for Dragic to be happy. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:43 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Spoelstra's comments also directly contradict what a lot of posters on this board seem to think the Mavs need: size. They have a lot of average size in the starting five, probably because we have that 6´7 PG. That´s basically how you play defense in the new NBA. Lots of faster wing size defender at every position to switch everything and contest everything, to help and jump passing lanes with long arms. Nevertheless you do sacrifice some rebounding and we see it every game. It just seems that it´s still better than playing with Porzingis, but there will probably be match-ups where we´ll get killed inside. Let´s be honest Porzingis was a poor help/switch defender and not nearly as good a rim protector/rebounder as he needed to be, to make up for his speed deficit. I have always felt that despite the size disadvantage the opposition shots around the rim were more contested, when Porzingis didn´t play. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: As Stein reported back in October, the Mavs have "big plans" for FN and really think he has a future in the league. Burke on the other hand? I would dump him for Dragic, but not sure there are enough minutes for Dragic to be happy. It also plays into the luxury tax. Frank is non-guaranted. Burke is dead money. At 3.3M you can trade him away while paying his full salary on another team (by sending cash with it), which still means it doesn´t count against our tax. If you waive him for a few months of Dragic, you carry the full tax burden. Therefore I think it was either Dragic or Frank. Though like I said I believe the real reason is simply Dragic not wanting to sign with a non-contender. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - SatnamSingh - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Seriously don't get that logic. If the question is between Frank vs. Dragic in the playoffs, I'd pick Dragic every time. Who was it? I think @"DanSchwartzgan" quoted someone about NBA roster construction. 8 guys play in the playoffs. Maybe 2 guys need to be ready to play. The rest of the roster is cheerleaders that wont make waves about playing time. Luka, Brunson, DFS, Maxi, Powell, Bullock, Dinwiddie, Bertans Dinwiddie fills the role Dragic would play. Even if Dragic is better than Burke, he'd have to have enough of an attachment to the Mavs in order to sacrifice. Like JJ Barea did. Mavs aren't a contender. Now whether Dinwiddie or Dragic are better the rest of this season. That's a real discussion. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - SleepingHero - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:53 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Felt like he was lying a little bit there, but it also rang true. It was incredible that the first time KP's name came up was from Jake Fischer within hours of the trade deadline. Nico was clearly being very careful not to give other teams the impression they were shopping KP. He did a hell of a job with that. KOC, Stein, Cato, and Fischer all had similar reports that came out after the fact that the Mavs started seriously discussing trading KP Wednesday night before the TDL. And that TOR was the main team. Nico basically said they were having exploratory convos with teams as far back as a week before. So I think he isn't lying that they weren't outright shopping KP, but that they viewed by the end that moving him checked the most boxes that they identified of need. We did hear a bunch of THJ rumors, and even Brunson/DFS rumors as well. Nico chose KP as the move. I think the return had Mark's fingerprints all over it though. Really seems like the WAS package (that was probably offered a week prior) was discussed by all parties (Mark, Nico, Fin), and they decided at the last moment to go with it. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - F Gump - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: As Stein reported back in October, the Mavs have "big plans" for FN and really think he has a future in the league. Burke on the other hand? I would dump him for Dragic, but not sure there are enough minutes for Dragic to be happy. Whether he fits depends on how many minutes you think you would allocate to others. The current depth chart looks like this: Rotation Sporadic Backup C - DP, Maxi (Chriss, Bobi) PF - DFS, Bertans SF - Bullock, Green (Brown) SG - Brunson (Franky) (THJ) PG - Luka, SD (Burke) You have 144 minutes to divide at SF-SG-PG between 5 players, and Green isn't likely to get a full share. But if he gets 1/2 of what the others do, and they basically get the same apiece, that's 32 per (with Green getting 16). With GD replacing Burke and also getting a regular half-shift, it's 28 each (and GD/Green each gets 14), which is pretty sparse minutes for your better players. I can see why they'd decide 'no' this time. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - SatnamSingh - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: As Stein reported back in October, the Mavs have "big plans" for FN and really think he has a future in the league. I'd be surprised if they still feel that way. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - SleepingHero - 02-16-2022 https://twitter.com/KirkSeriousFace/status/1494066907162550276?s=20&t=7BdH66H4tvV7rg8v_W42HA It's this kind of language by the author of this tweet that makes me absolutely despise Mavs Twittersphere. Such doom and gloom. I'm sure the Mavs were confident at one point in all 3 guys. But things change. In the Dragic case, the Mavs chose Dindwiddie over him it seems. That's not the same as Dragic spurning the Mavs. *It remains to be seen if they made the right choice. Carter left because the Mavs didn't have the space to match MEM deal because they chose to sign Parsons. Kidd was looking to sign with a team that was ready to compete. The way Kidd left blindsided us all as he originally committed to resign but backed out. O'Neal was 2 years removed from the NBA in 2016 and never came back anyways. Seriously makes me enraged. (02-16-2022, 05:09 PM)SatnamSingh Wrote: Who was it? I think @"DanSchwartzgan" quoted someone about NBA roster construction. 8 guys play in the playoffs. Maybe 2 guys need to be ready to play. The rest of the roster is cheerleaders that wont make waves about playing time. You have a point. If it's between Dinwiddie and Dragic, that I don't really know. Dinwiddie is younger, but Dragic has had the better career. Right now today Dinwiddie is the better player (but he is 8 years younger than Dragic). I'd rather have both. They both do different things. I think there are minutes to be had between Luka/Brunson/Dinwiddie. And Dragic gives us yet another guard that can create his own shot. RE: MAVS NEWS: 16th O, 5th D | 5th in West | 18-6 in last 24 games - F Gump - 02-16-2022 (02-16-2022, 04:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote: As Stein reported back in October, the Mavs have "big plans" for FN and really think he has a future in the league. 'Plans' change, right? That sounds like just another Signing PR (or Camp PR) type of statement, and fairly meaningless as a guide to the long term. Obviously he was highly regarded when drafted, so it's no surprise they liked the raw material to work with. But I would expect their evaluation of him has become expanded/modified significantly since then (for better, or worse) because of the benefit of months of observation to work from. FWIW I bet Burke (who can run the point and create some offense, when needed) is higher in their pecking order right now. |