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RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - Kammrath - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 08:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: KP has been negative in +/- in four of the five games


The overall trends of Luka and KP both being negatives is fascinating to me. If it ever "clicks" for both of them this team might suddenly become REALLY, REALLY good. 

I was really encouraged by the +7 run from 7:34 to 0:43 with KP, Luka, RB, JB, and THJ. We see glimpses of these positive impacts and runs with Luka and KP, but for the most part this season the bench mob has been the one getting the leads.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - Kammrath - 11-16-2021

https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1460624308338839559


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | 21st O, 20th D - SleepingHero - 11-16-2021

(11-15-2021, 01:45 PM)mvossman Wrote: Not sure I get the fascination with Hield.  Seems like an overpriced 6th man to me.  He is probably a little bit of upgrade offensively from THJ, but he may be even worse defensively.  Feel like this team already has enough one way players.  Besides, our bench is already killing it.


The fascination mainly lies with his unreal 3pt shot. He has an argument for best 3pt shooter in the league. We saw just how lethal we were with Seth Curry on the court next to Luka. Hield would fill that role much in the same way and I'm trying to recreate that.

Not only that but it seems like the Kings are more than ready to move on from Hield at a bargain asking price. That's just the kind of deal we should be looking for. Players that can be had on a bargain that can be a boon next to Luka.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | 21st O, 20th D - mvossman - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 10:26 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: The fascination mainly lies with his unreal 3pt shot. He has an argument for best 3pt shooter in the league. We saw just how lethal we were with Seth Curry on the court next to Luka. Hield would fill that role much in the same way and I'm trying to recreate that.

Not only that but it seems like the Kings are more than ready to move on from Hield at a bargain asking price. That's just the kind of deal we should be looking for. Players that can be had on a bargain that can be a boon next to Luka.

The biggest difference being that Curry is 9 mil and Hield is 23.  There is a reason they are trying to give him away.  Not that interested in tying up over 40 mil in cap space to two guys whos only contribution is shooting.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - Tyler - 11-16-2021

Evidence that the plan is starting to come together...
https://twitter.com/NickVanExit/status/1460645317527887875


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - SleepingHero - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 10:50 AM)mvossman Wrote: The biggest difference being that Curry is 9 mil and Hield is 23.  There is a reason they are trying to give him away.  Not that interested in tying up over 40 mil in cap space to two guys whos only contribution is shooting.


The biggest difference is that Hield takes and makes more threes than Seth too. 

Seth has elite efficiency, but doesn't have the volume. Hield has both. We should be comparing Hield more to Duncan Robinson, who is getting paid 18 ml vs 23 for Hield. 

5 mil overpay for that kind of elite shooting is something that I'm more than willing to accept.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - michaeltex - 11-16-2021

For the current season:

Curry 5.9 fg/gm @ 54.2% (47.1% 3pt) 3.2 rpg, 2.5 apg
Heild 5.9 fg/gm @ 42.1% (40.8% 3pt) 4.5 rpg, 2.1 apg

That works out to 10.9 fga for Curry and 14 fga for Heild.

Seth is shooting more efficiently, but Buddy gets more rebounds. 

FWIW


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - SleepingHero - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 12:28 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Seth is shooting more efficiently, but Buddy gets more rebounds. 


Seth has been the most efficient 3pt shooter in the league for the last 4 years, clocking in at 45.2% from 3. Insane efficiency. Sadly he only takes 4 attempts a game. And these were on teams that he's been featured in with a prominent bench role. 

Buddy in that same span is shooting 40.5%, but on 9 attempts a game. His efficiency is still elite at over 40%, but he's doing it on a volume the likes of Steph/Dame territory. That's why Buddy is special.

I don't really care about his contract because the Mavs aren't going to have any space for a while, and when they do have space it's not like they do anything with it anyways.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - Tyler - 11-16-2021

Luka Magic

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1460705602477330432?s=21


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - KillerLeft - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:28 PM)Tyler Wrote: Luka Magic

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1460705602477330432?s=21

Your early 20's: a time during which there are no physical consequences for pretty much anything.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 11-16-2021

MacMahon tweeting that he'll miss time but not much?

Feels somewhat conflicting of Shams.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - ClutchDirk - 11-16-2021

https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1460714744730505221?s=21


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - KillerLeft - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 04:10 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1460714744730505221?s=21

At this point, I'd be ok resting Luka on a few b2b's even if he was totally healthy. 

Ditto for pretty much any important player.

It's a marathon, not a sprint, and while stacking wins is crucial, the most important basketball is played after the all-star break. 

This doesn't really worry me. Sucks that this next stretch is so tough, though.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - SleepingHero - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:28 PM)Tyler Wrote: Luka Magic

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1460705602477330432?s=21

THE BEST DANG NEWS I'VE HEARD ALL DAY!


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - mavsluvr - 11-16-2021

They were just updating this on ESPN. (Zach Lowe and Richard Jefferson). 

Based on McMahon's report and their familiarity with that type of injury, they were hoping he would not be out more than 7-10 days. I don't know how much of that was based on knowledge, and how much on speculation.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - dynamicalVoid - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 04:13 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: At this point, I'd be ok resting Luka on a few b2b's even if he was totally healthy. 

Ditto for pretty much any important player.

It's a marathon, not a sprint, and while stacking wins is crucial, the most important basketball is played after the all-star break. 

This doesn't really worry me. Sucks that this next stretch is so tough, though.

No...no it does not suck.

We need to evaluate Brunson as much as possible against other teams starting units and see him on his own late in close games if possible.

Unless Mavs have already made a decision on him of course.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - michaeltex - 11-16-2021

7-10 days means possibly both PHX and both LAC games. 

Hate that he's hurt and want him healthy for remaining season, but the timing surely stinks.

Guess we'll find out if the team is better without him.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - mvossman - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 11:54 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: The biggest difference is that Hield takes and makes more threes than Seth too. 

Seth has elite efficiency, but doesn't have the volume. Hield has both. We should be comparing Hield more to Duncan Robinson, who is getting paid 18 ml vs 23 for Hield. 

5 mil overpay for that kind of elite shooting is something that I'm more than willing to accept.

The other difference is that Hield is shitastically bad at defense.  I mean really bad.  Curry, THJ, Brunson are nothing to write home about, but Hield is significantly worse.  There is a reason he got moved to the bench with his elite shooting.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - mavsluvr - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 04:52 PM)michaeltex Wrote: 7-10 days means possibly both PHX and both LAC games. 

Hate that he's hurt and want him healthy for remaining season, but the timing surely stinks.

Guess we'll find out if the team is better without him.

Mavs are saying game by game decision. But Callie Caplan, I believe, reports that Luka will travel with the team for the whole road trip, even if he doesn't play in the games. Suggesting that they are least allowing for the possibility that he will not be able to go in any of the games.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Maxi out | Luka hurts ankle | 19th O, 17th D - ClutchDirk - 11-16-2021

https://twitter.com/MavsPR/status/1460729511490822147?s=20