(06-30-2024, 02:25 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn)
The San Antonio Spurs did not tender a qualifying offer to Dominick Barlow, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent, sources tell ESPN. Barlow - a 6-foot-9 forward — played 61 games in two seasons. Spurs, others will have interest in talking in free agency.

(06-30-2024, 02:23 AM)LukaMVP Wrote: jet was a terrific combo guard and he could handle the ball well, but I doubt Klay would be the right to do that. we still need to find a backup ball handler (hardy maybe?).

(06-30-2024, 02:09 AM)F Gump Wrote: 2 " I doubt GSW would entertain any salary back in a SnT. "... It depends on what they decide with CP3 (whose presence keeps them from having a big MLE and lands them over Apron 1). I suspect CP3 is waived, with teams who want him willing to wait and then try to sign him.

If that's correct, then their approach does a 180. They then have freedom to add some talent - such as add a full MLE, and accept Green in sign-and-trade - and still be under the Apron. And I bet they see a need for talent, if they can get it, rather than just do without. That's assumes they would see Green as worth having and developing further, which I think they would.

Also notice that reports re GS say they WILL take back salary to facilitate a SNT.

• Is GS trying to be a below-the-apron team? Cutting CP3 completely. Then I'm not sure why we are using a TPE. They can take some salary back or use the generous below the apron trade math
  

• If they are above the apron... then the TPE makes sense... BUT it would imply they are getting a non-salaries asset back for facilitating the deal. Which would mean we are probably sending our 2025 1st.
  

• IF we are acquiring Klay via a TPE... we need to reduce salary another way. Both Maxi and Green fit cleanly into a team's Full MLE. This is the first season you can use the Full MLE as a TPE. We could try and recoop draft assets from a hypothetical Green into a TPE trade.
  

(06-30-2024, 02:14 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: You’re speaking defensively, but in a way that’s the same thing I’m saying, only from a different angle.

Still, if they aren’t sending Green and or Kleber out in this Thompson deal, and it doesn’t seem like you think they will, I suppose there could potentially be some other moves made we haven’t discussed yet, and I assume another 4 would be pretty high on that list.

(06-30-2024, 02:39 AM)omahen Wrote: Just to stir conversation

I could see Mavs pivot to Wiggins again, if GSW can't get into any serious star conversations.

Lets say in that case GSW decides, fuck it, lets just give those champs 2 more seasons together and pay Klay whatever he wants. They will not be good, so they will be getting draft capital with decent picks and they can start to prepare for a smooth transition after those three guys retire together in 3 years.

Mavs trade Maxi for Wiggins straight up, expanding the Detroit THJ deal (I think numbers are really close, a mil will not be a problem to make it work). Than Mavs can decide to ship Green out to retain DJJ or just keep Green.

(06-30-2024, 02:36 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: During my cat nap, Marc Stein has posted some "new" news given everything we've learned:

Mavs Film Room  (@MavsFilmRoom)
Lot of Mavs’ related info in this latest post from @TheSteinLine, where he maintains that the Mavericks are still the favorites to sign Klay Thompson, and even some within the Lakers believe that too.

Klay is the Mavs’ top priority, above Derrick Jones.

https://open.substack.com/pub/marcstein/p/what-were-hearing-as-nba-free-agency?r=yv8j&utm_medium=ios







The most interesting bits? 
Mavs want Klay on a 3 year deal. 
Mavs Plan A is to get Klay AND keep DJJ. 
If they can't keep DJJ, then Naji Marshall is a candidate.
And I know it's not in those screenshots but Stein maintains that the Mavs are the team to beat when it comes to Klay, at least that's what some guys in the Lakers FO think.

(06-30-2024, 02:36 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: During my cat nap, Marc Stein has posted some "new" news given everything we've learned:

Mavs Film Room  (@MavsFilmRoom)
Lot of Mavs’ related info in this latest post from @TheSteinLine, where he maintains that the Mavericks are still the favorites to sign Klay Thompson, and even some within the Lakers believe that too.

Klay is the Mavs’ top priority, above Derrick Jones. 

The most interesting bits? 
Mavs want Klay on a 3 year deal. 
Mavs Plan A is to get Klay AND keep DJJ. 
If they can't keep DJJ, then Naji Marshall is a candidate.
And I know it's not in those screenshots but Stein maintains that the Mavs are the team to beat when it comes to Klay, at least that's what some guys in the Lakers FO think.

(06-30-2024, 03:07 AM)F Gump Wrote: Here's the part about all these reports about Klay that isn't being said, and I think its answer is a difference maker - What sort of salary is in the mix for Klay?

These 'top priority' notes with the idea that they might end up not being able to sign DJJ too makes me worry it's a starting number far above 20M, which I think would be an albatross waiting to happen. As someone else noted, we might be edging towards a Wes Matthews or Harrison Barnes type of "pay them anything" pursuit. Ugh. In a Hard Cap World, please no.

(06-30-2024, 03:03 AM)Knutsen Wrote: I think they have something lined up as a plan A where they have a sign and trade for Klay first and then sign DJJ afterwards.

Maybe something in the form of we trade Green to a third team with cap space, trade Hardy (or a pick) as a sweetener to the Warriors, they sign-and-trade Klay to us and the third team throws in a second rounder. Then we sign DJJ to the biggest possible amount, depending on Thompson‘s numbers.

To the cap experts: could this principle be used as an extension of our Detroit-deal, with Green also going there?

(06-30-2024, 03:12 AM)Jym Wrote: or maybe it's in combo with the THJ trade and we won't have the MLE unless we move someone else

(06-30-2024, 03:13 AM)F Gump Wrote: Sure, that could be done. All in one big deal, in fact (other than the part of signing DJJ, which would follow). It's easier and cleaner if GS wants Green, and he's their compensation, and you could send them Hardy too without causing them any financial issues, if that's what everyone wants.