(09-28-2022, 09:19 AM)F Gump Wrote: The Mavs have been trying to sell us on how wonderful it is to have the "flexibility" of an open slot.

(09-28-2022, 09:38 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don’t remember the quote that leads to this sentence. Who was it that said it and what was the context around it? Not trying to say it wasn’t said at all, I just usually clue into stuff said like this and just can’t remember a time a Mavs staffer said anything like this. Was it a reporter of some sort that was conveying a message from a Mavs staffer, or speculation?

(09-28-2022, 09:19 AM)F Gump Wrote: So when they say it that way, I tend to question if they even truly have a 15th slot open. Maybe Dorsey is signed to fill that 15th slot, and they are trying to skirt the tax rules in how they pay him, as follows:
1 Sign to a 2-way, which allows the player to play 50 games with Mavs. For those 50 games, the player gets paid usual NBA minimum salary. But 2-way salary doesn't count on cap (or tax) totals.
2 At game 51, instead of sending him to GL because he is out of NBA games allowed, "convert" the 2-way contract to a minimum salary NBA deal. Player continues seamlessly on the roster, and Mavs continue to pay minimum salary, for the rest of the season.
3 The "cost" for doing this is that you waste a 2-way slot, that could otherwise be used for developing a young player and supplementing your NBA roster in the process. And when you convert the contract after 50 games, you don't get to sign another player to a 2-way because the window has closed.
4 But it is cheaper on Cuban's wallet. The tax is reduced. And he is paying one less salary, avoiding the cost of another 2-way player.

(09-28-2022, 09:38 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don’t remember the quote that leads to this sentence. Who was it that said it and what was the context around it? Not trying to say it wasn’t said at all, I just usually clue into stuff said like this and just can’t remember a time a Mavs staffer said anything like this. Was it a reporter of some sort that was conveying a message from a Mavs staffer, or speculation?

(09-28-2022, 10:15 AM)F Gump Wrote: Cuban himself. In interview after interview, he is "selling" this nonsense. Or so he thinks.

One example, in late August:

Cuban was asked about whether the Mavs will make any more roster moves before training camp on The Norm & D Invasion radio show (at the 4:09 mark).

“Unlikely, unless something somebody gets cut somewhere that really surprises us. I mean, we want that flexibility throughout the season,” Cuban said to the Dallas radio show. “I know how fans feel about it. It’s always like, you know, ‘We got to win the summer we’ve got to do this and we got to do that.’ But you know, come trade deadline, having a roster spot will be beneficial. Come that time when teams are doing buyouts that roster spot can be very beneficial.”

Flexibility. Needing an open spot for buyouts (in 7 months from now!). It feels to me like he's just throwing crap against the wall, in hopes that something will stick with the listener.

This was not an isolated one off. It happened to be the first that popped up on a google search. But Cuban has been pitching this poop to anyone who will listen, to "explain" why it's smart (not cheap) front office work going on in Dallas. Keep your ears open going forward, because whenever he's asked why they don't have a full roster, this shuffle-step is what we get.

(09-28-2022, 10:15 AM)F Gump Wrote: Cuban himself. In interview after interview, he is "selling" this nonsense. Or so he thinks.

One example, in late August:

Cuban was asked about whether the Mavs will make any more roster moves before training camp on The Norm & D Invasion radio show (at the 4:09 mark).

“Unlikely, unless something somebody gets cut somewhere that really surprises us. I mean, we want that flexibility throughout the season,” Cuban said to the Dallas radio show. “I know how fans feel about it. It’s always like, you know, ‘We got to win the summer we’ve got to do this and we got to do that.’ But you know, come trade deadline, having a roster spot will be beneficial. Come that time when teams are doing buyouts that roster spot can be very beneficial.”

Flexibility. Needing an open spot for buyouts (in 7 months from now!). It feels to me like he's just throwing crap against the wall, in hopes that something will stick with the listener.

This was not an isolated one off. It happened to be the first that popped up on a google search. But Cuban has been pitching this poop to anyone who will listen, to "explain" why it's smart (not cheap) front office work going on in Dallas. Keep your ears open going forward, because whenever he's asked why they don't have a full roster, this shuffle-step is what we get.

(09-28-2022, 12:46 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ok, that’s pretty dumb, ESPECIALLY considering they signed Pinson to a deal. That’s the most waivable contract in the NBA.

(09-28-2022, 12:46 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ok, that’s pretty dumb, ESPECIALLY considering they signed Pinson to a deal. That’s the most waivable contract in the NBA.

(09-28-2022, 02:32 PM)Hypermav Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1575175935078567936?s=20&t=1HLJGSvO6FAqW8gpw7Zngw

(09-28-2022, 02:32 PM)Hypermav Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1575175935078567936?s=20&t=1HLJGSvO6FAqW8gpw7Zngw

(09-28-2022, 02:34 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don't disagree with what you're at war with here in a general sense, but I think time will tell that Pinson, specifically, is way less offensive in this regard than Boban was. Pinson is a player who can actually help on the court. If DFS or Bullock miss significant time, I feel like we'll be happy Pinson is on the team.