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RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - cow - 09-26-2022

Some guy talks about Starter McGee, rotations being flexible, and matchups dictating the starting lineup.  Does some guy know much about basketball?  I've never heard of him.




RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - IamDougieFresh - 09-26-2022

(09-26-2022, 05:17 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I mean, I suppose...but it's not really a matter of opinion, honestly. 

The entire Dallas approach late season was to start with one of those plays, and by then teams were like "F it, we're just going to switch everything. They're not getting us with that pick and roll." Then, Luka just goes to work on whatever big, dumb dinosaur lands in front of him. 

THAT is the pick and roll WORKING in the playoffs. It's the opponent declaring right in front of our eyes that they're more worried about the multi-threat action than they are having Gobert or Ayton try to defend Luka on an island.

It is an opinion lmfaooooooo. Give me a few months to figure out how to download NBA games and edit video. I will breakdown every Dwight possession in the playoffs.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Mapka - 09-26-2022

(09-26-2022, 05:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think Crowder would help, but not as much as I thought back when he signed in PHX instead of coming here. He's just not the same player he was then, I don't think. 

Plus, I think the team might be slightly worse this season, anyway, and Crowder, while helping in some areas, wouldn't solve some of what really worries me. 

I've read in a few places recently that Crowder is upset in PHX because they want him to come off the bench, and he's focused on finding a starting job so that he can maximize his chances for one more big payday. I'm not sure I'd see him as a starter here, personally, and even if I did I certainly wouldn't want to be painted into a corner like that were I the Mavs.

Add all of that up, and no, I don't think I'd cough up Josh Green for Crowder, though if Green doesn't take a major step forward this season I might feel silly for saying so in a few months.

The thing is, we can’t really say what Green will be in a year from now.
But we know, if we trade him like that, we have fucked it up again.

So the hope is, the Mavs can see how good he is developing and keep him therefor.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - omahen - 09-27-2022

I am surprised this didn't make it to US media (or I didn't see it). Not sure if all of it is true or 100 % true. Basically, one of Slovenian players, a 30 year old very average 3-D wing, even by European standards, is claiming that Dallas offered him a 2-way contract and that naturally Luka was behind it. The guy says he declined the offer.

If true, I find it problematic. I perfectly understand Luka doesn't want to be a GM, but that should include doing favors to his friends whose only real qualification is that they are his friends. This goes both for Marko Milic as well as in this case of Edo Muric. Friends and business should be separated. Might be difficult, but it really is that simple. Everything else just leads to problems.

Slovenski reprezentant razkril, zakaj je zavrnil ponudbo Dallasa - siol.net


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - ItsGoTime - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 06:59 AM)omahen Wrote: I am surprised this didn't make it to US media (or I didn't see it). Not sure if all of it is true or 100 % true. Basically, one of Slovenian players, a 30 year old very average 3-D wing, even by European standards, is claiming that Dallas offered him a 2-way contract and that naturally Luka was behind it. The guy says he declined the offer.

If true, I find it problematic. I perfectly understand Luka doesn't want to be a GM, but that should include doing favors to his friends whose only real qualification is that they are his friends. This goes both for Marko Milic as well as in this case of Edo Muric. Friends and business should be separated. Might be difficult, but it really is that simple. Everything else just leads to problems.

Slovenski reprezentant razkril, zakaj je zavrnil ponudbo Dallasa - siol.net
Also, our FO should be above this type of thing. Every contract should be taken seriously. That’s the best way to keep Luka happy. There is no limit to how much coaching staff there can be or their payroll. The equipment manager can be anyone. Player contracts? Sorry Luka, we want to build the best team possible for you AND us to win a championship, and that ain’t it!

I will say, the Antetokunmpo brothers got this treatment too.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - omahen - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 07:55 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I will say, the Antetokunmpo brothers got this treatment too.


Totally agree with your take. However, thinking more about it, we can't say other teams are immune to this. Miami signed Goran Dragic brother Zoran when they signed Goran. GSW had Currys brother in law. Portland had Keljin Blevins, who is Lillards nephew, if I remember correctly.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - ItsGoTime - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 08:27 AM)omahen Wrote: Totally agree with your take. However, thinking more about it, we can't say other teams are immune to this. Miami signed Goran Dragic brother Zoran when they signed Goran. GSW had Currys brother in law. Portland had Keljin Blevins, who is Lillards nephew, if I remember correctly.
For sure, and those spots back then weren’t two way contracts. It’s also akin to drafting Satnam Singh all because it would be great marketing to a new untapped market. I do remember the Zoran signing, I don’t remember the others, so didn’t know this was so practiced throughout the NBA.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - DanSchwartzgan - 09-27-2022

(09-26-2022, 04:59 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: It DID work, it's just that by that point all of the defenses are great at seeing the first option (roller) coming and taking it away. That's how Luka ends up making people look so silly in the playoffs, because the defense is taking the screener (not only Powell, but certainly Powell when he's in there) away. It's also how Kleber got those 8 3's to drop from the corner against Utah, because Gobert had to make a choice on those plays.

Thus, in the playoffs the team was +6.8 points per 100 possessions with Powell in there.  Defense wasn’t good and Powell personally didn’t put a thing in the bucket.  But, the TEAM won the battle during those minutes.  Last I checked, that is the most important thing.

Now we have the same thing offensively in a limited minutes role in McGee with much MUCH better rim protection and rebounding.  We’ll be fine during the McGee minutes with Reggie, Dorian and Dinwiddie.  What people are sleeping on is how good this bench is going to be.  Maxi, Wood and Hardaway are the core of a fantastic group.  Yes, Dinwiddie moved to the starting lineup to replace Brunson.  If Tim replaces SD’s bench production, then Wood is a pure addition to what we already had in the playoffs.  Powell is still here if you need more than 15 minutes of rim running for some reason (but, against bench units).  Bertans has proven he can carve out a highly effective and net positive role in limited minutes and we will hopefully see some growth from Green and Frank.  Absent injury issues, I still have this as a home court in the first round playoff team.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Hypermav - 09-27-2022

Maybe this was already mentioned but Kidd stated we had to rely on the volume three last year during the playoffs and followed that up with this year we won't necessarily have to. Considering we lost a playmaker in Brunson, that is an interesting statement.

I think he has big plans for C Wood.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - michaeltex - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 10:49 AM)Hypermav Wrote: Maybe this was already mentioned but Kidd stated we had to rely on the volume three last year during the playoffs and followed that up with this year we won't necessarily have to. Considering we lost a playmaker in Brunson, that is an interesting statement.

I think he has big plans for C Wood.

I would venture Wood and McGee are both talent elevations that offer an even wider array of offensive options. I'm thinking McGee has the size to compete better in the paint, especially against some of the other big men. Wood (I hope) is going to be a threat from the 3pt line all the way to the rim, sort of a bigger version of DFS.

I think Kidd made a similar comment a year ago, about wanting to not live and die by 3pters. And it did seem to get better for a while, but the donut hole at our 5 position started betraying use in the playoffs. Luka, Brunson and SD were able to exploit UTA and PHX big men, but GSW's ability to play small with force was too much to overcome. My anticipation is that Wood allows for more effective 5-out/small ball play while McGee is able to keep bigger opposition lineups honest. 

While matchups often drive lineups, I'm hoping DAL develops a chemistry that makes the other team match up to us rather than the opposite. If that happens, look out.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Hypermav - 09-27-2022

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1574817446862675968?s=20&t=admWP97XzExE9PNehllWbg

SD, DFS, Bullock, Powell and McGee.  Talk about limited playmaking.  Just a practice...Powell not using his face here.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Hypermav - 09-27-2022

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1574818427201622021?s=20&t=admWP97XzExE9PNehllWbg

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1574818945336578048?s=20&t=admWP97XzExE9PNehllWbg


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - IamDougieFresh - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 09:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Thus, in the playoffs the team was +6.8 points per 100 possessions with Powell in there.


Damn. Should have played him more. We'd be champs!!!


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - F Gump - 09-27-2022

(09-27-2022, 10:49 AM)Hypermav Wrote: Maybe this was already mentioned but Kidd stated we had to rely on the volume three last year during the playoffs and followed that up with this year we won't necessarily have to. Considering we lost a playmaker in Brunson, that is an interesting statement.

I think he has big plans for C Wood.

I took Kidd's words as spin, embracing the new situation and finding ways to paint it in a positive light, rather than moaning about it. That doesn't mean he truly thinks it's better -- only that he is focused on making it work.

Obviously, getting the most they can out of C Wood is one of the goals. But he's not plug and play, and it will be a process to work past the flaws and minimize them.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Kammrath - 09-27-2022

https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1574900181358845961


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Kammrath - 09-27-2022

https://twitter.com/NickVanExit/status/1574842653149171720


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Kammrath - 09-27-2022

https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1574936251328700417


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - HoosierDaddyKid - 09-27-2022

(09-26-2022, 05:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: That's better, but I'm not even sure I'd do that.


Can't be sure Phoenix would either.


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - Kammrath - 09-28-2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWhjZKAq0Q


RE: MAVS NEWS: Vegas line: DAL 47.5 wins (7th in West) | preseason Oct 5, 7, 14 - ItsGoTime - 09-28-2022

(09-28-2022, 07:25 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWhjZKAq0Q
This guy is happy to be here. Really rooting for him to break out!