(06-28-2024, 10:06 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: FWIW, I am starting to see smoke out there that Paul George to GS is a done deal. 

This is all very, very interesting. I hope Dallas isn't overthinking things a bit. They have the world by the balls right now. There are ways in which Klay makes sense, but it has to be on the right terms, so I hope it's not his shiny name that's driving this bus.

(06-28-2024, 10:12 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: There is always a chance the vet min guy we sign is actually a mobile 4. 

Robert Covington is available. Nic Batum is available. 

But I agree, I'd be pretty ecstatic opening up a real consistent role for OMax.

(06-28-2024, 10:14 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Jason Terry is the only one truly sane person in this thread. Klay for DJJ (as the practical result of this acquisition) is objectively a step backwards. Too many people thinking Klay is 2015 Klay, when he is not. I suppose that's better than the doofuses out there (not here on the board, thank goodness) who still view Wiggins as a decent Mavs trade target. Klay is neither offensively nor defensively what he was in 2015, period. If it's a good idea to flush exorbitant money on Klay freaking Thompson in 2024 - way the hell past the man's prime - why don't we trade for CP3? How about getting Blake Griffin out of retirement? Why not just go all the way and go get MJ?

Mark my words - if the Mavs are stupid enough to throw money out the window (anything more than $5 mil a year is ridiculous, much less $20 per year) for a multiyear deal for Klay Thompson, by the time this coming season is over, that contract will be as hated by the entirety of the Mavs fanbase as the worst contract in franchise history, worse than THJ, Wes, Chandler Parsons, and all of Powell's deals put together. He will be unplayable in terms of actually trying to win games by the end of this coming season. Go ahead and pin this post, especially if the Mavs nuke the Luka era by making such a suicidal move. Goodness gracious, I bet that if there were some way to scientifically quantify subjective sports opinions and feelings, I'll bet I abhor this idea worse than Kamm hated trading for Kyrie.

(06-28-2024, 10:14 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Jason Terry is the only one truly sane person in this thread. Klay for DJJ (as the practical result of this acquisition) is objectively a step backwards. Too many people thinking Klay is 2015 Klay, when he is not. I suppose that's better than the doofuses out there (not here on the board, thank goodness) who still view Wiggins as a decent Mavs trade target. Klay is neither offensively nor defensively what he was in 2015, period. If it's a good idea to flush exorbitant money on Klay freaking Thompson in 2024 - way the hell past the man's prime - why don't we trade for CP3? How about getting Blake Griffin out of retirement? Why not just go all the way and go get MJ?

Mark my words - if the Mavs are stupid enough to throw money out the window (anything more than $5 mil a year is ridiculous, much less $20 per year) for a multiyear deal for Klay Thompson, by the time this coming season is over, that contract will be as hated by the entirety of the Mavs fanbase as the worst contract in franchise history, worse than THJ, Wes, Chandler Parsons, and all of Powell's deals put together. He will be unplayable in terms of actually trying to win games by the end of this coming season. Go ahead and pin this post, especially if the Mavs nuke the Luka era by making such a suicidal move. Goodness gracious, I bet that if there were some way to scientifically quantify subjective sports opinions and feelings, I'll bet I abhor this idea worse than Kamm hated trading for Kyrie.

(06-28-2024, 10:19 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: 1) no one is arguing Klay in place of DJJ. 

2) a 20mil deal for your 3rd best guy isn't bad. 

3) Should Klay sign, I give it 10 games before you abandon this silly notion and you'll come back loving Klay.

Join the Kult man, it's better over here. 

(06-28-2024, 10:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: You heard the scoop here first! Never forget that!

We at Mavsboard are filled with insiders

(06-28-2024, 10:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm going to be pretty upset if we learn this is "instead of" DJJ, 

(06-28-2024, 10:35 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I also would like to point out Klay Thompson's career catch and shoot numbers:

2013-14: 44.3%
2014-15: 45.7%
2015-16: 44.1%
2016-17: 43.9%
2017-18: 44.7%
2018-19: 40.5%
2019-20: N/A
2020-21: N/A
2021-22: 36.4%
2022-23: 41.4%
2023-24: 38.1%

From 2013-2019 Klay led the league in catch and shoot 3pt attempts AND makes (all 6 of those seasons rank in the top 10 of all time in terms of catch and shoot 3pt makes). 

He led the league in career catch and shoot 3pt% at 43.9% in those 6 years. 

Last 2 years, Klay and Lauri have been tied in terms of catch and shoot 3pt attempts. Their averages? 
Klay: 39.8%
Lauri: 41.0%

Adding Klay to this team is akin to adding a Lauri Markkannen level shooter right now. And that's before giving him the Luka buff of wide open 3s. 

(06-28-2024, 10:34 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Aw, hell, I'd view that as pretty obvious at this time.

Not sure if this is a matter of DJJ being mad at the Mavs and feeling that they're not willing to pony up. I'll bet they are. But if they told him, "we need more offense, so when we resign you, you'll be coming off the bench," I would not at all be surprised if his reaction was "'When you resign me' - lulz." The man earned his starting spot. I'm sure that a big part of the chemistry/family/willingness to come back for part of the NTMLE was the presumption that he'd also earned keeping it. 

Even if the Klutch move doesn't mean that he's mad right now, if the Mavs go get Klay, or KCP, or any other player, with the intention of his replacing DJJ as a starter, I think it's a pretty safe bet that the Mavs' probabilities of re-signing DJJ fall off a cliff.

(06-28-2024, 10:47 PM)Jym Wrote: Isn't Klutch going around collecting pretty much all the NBA players at this point?
That should be the least of our concerns at the moment

(06-28-2024, 10:37 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Have you all missed the number of times Klay couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in games that mattered in the past two years? Goodness gracious.

• 16.1ppg/3.9rpg/2.0apg | 42.6%/34.7%/83.3%
  

• 16.2ppg/4.4rpg/2.2apg | 37.3%/34.4%/91.7%
  

• 19.8ppg/3.1rpg/2.5apg | 46.7%/43.4%/94.1%
  

• 18.6ppg/2.6rpg/2.8apg | 39.5%/36.5%/94.4%
  

• 16.7ppg/3.8rpg/1.8apg | 44.4%/38.9%/100%
  

• 17.7ppg/2.6rpg/2.4apg | 43.7%/42.3%/88.9%
  

• 21.3ppg/3.0rpg/2.5apg | 48.3%/40.2%/100%
  

• 18.8ppg/3.0rpg/2.4apg on 44.5%/40.2%/95.2%
  

• 17.6ppg/4.3rpg/1.6apg| 42.4%/38.0%/100%
  

• 17.8ppg/2.9/1.4apg| 41.1%/36.6%/80%
  

• 17.0ppg/3.7rpg/2.1apg | 41.5%/31.1%/82.1%
  

• 21.4ppg/4.2rpg/1.6apg| 45.0%/41.8%/88.9%
  

• 10.5ppg/2.9rpg/1.6apg| 34.4%/31.5%/88.9%
  

• 9.1ppg/2.2rpg/1.8apg| 36.3%/35.0%/72.2%
  

• 9.3ppg/2.5rpg/2.0apg | 37.4%/31.7%/88.9%
  

• 5.5ppg/1.5rpg/2.5apg | 26.7%/22.2%/50%
  

(06-28-2024, 10:48 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: signing a 34 year old on a 3-4 year contract with history of ACL and Achilles injuries. What could go wrong? i know he was once Klay Thompson, but this version is just a caricature of that guy.

I remember in the games Mavs played against GSW, I wanted Klay to shoot cause he was shooting them out of games. he is just not that guy anymore. this is a type of move that Cuban would make.

(06-28-2024, 10:14 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Jason Terry is the only one truly sane person in this thread. Klay for DJJ (as the practical result of this acquisition) is objectively a step backwards. Too many people thinking Klay is 2015 Klay, when he is not. I suppose that's better than the doofuses out there (not here on the board, thank goodness) who still view Wiggins as a decent Mavs trade target. Klay is neither offensively nor defensively what he was in 2015, period. If it's a good idea to flush exorbitant money on Klay freaking Thompson in 2024 - way the hell past the man's prime - why don't we trade for CP3? How about getting Blake Griffin out of retirement? Why not just go all the way and go get MJ?

Mark my words - if the Mavs are stupid enough to throw money out the window (anything more than $5 mil a year is ridiculous, much less $20 per year) for a multiyear deal for Klay Thompson, by the time this coming season is over, that contract will be as hated by the entirety of the Mavs fanbase as the worst contract in franchise history, worse than THJ, Wes, Chandler Parsons, and all of Powell's deals put together. He will be unplayable in terms of actually trying to win games by the end of this coming season. Go ahead and pin this post, especially if the Mavs nuke the Luka era by making such a suicidal move. Goodness gracious, I bet that if there were some way to scientifically quantify subjective sports opinions and feelings, I'll bet I abhor this idea worse than Kamm hated trading for Kyrie.