![]() |
MAVS NEWS: - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: MAVS NEWS: (/showthread.php?tid=2172) Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
240
241
242
243
244
245
246
247
248
249
250
251
252
253
254
255
256
257
258
259
260
261
262
263
264
265
266
267
268
269
270
271
272
273
274
275
276
277
278
279
280
281
282
283
284
285
286
287
288
289
290
291
292
293
294
295
296
297
298
299
300
301
302
303
304
305
306
307
308
309
310
311
312
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
320
321
322
323
324
325
326
327
328
329
330
331
332
333
334
335
336
337
338
339
340
341
342
343
344
345
346
347
348
349
350
351
352
353
354
355
356
357
358
359
360
361
362
363
364
365
366
367
368
369
370
371
372
373
374
375
376
377
378
379
380
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
388
389
390
391
392
393
394
395
396
397
398
399
400
401
402
403
404
405
406
407
408
409
410
411
412
413
414
415
416
417
418
419
420
421
422
423
424
425
426
427
428
429
430
431
432
433
434
435
436
437
438
439
440
441
442
443
444
445
446
447
448
449
450
451
452
453
454
455
456
457
458
459
460
461
462
463
464
465
466
467
468
469
470
471
472
473
474
475
476
477
478
479
480
481
482
483
484
485
486
487
488
489
490
491
492
493
494
495
496
497
498
499
500
501
502
503
504
505
506
507
508
509
510
511
512
513
514
515
516
517
518
519
520
521
522
523
524
525
526
527
528
529
530
531
532
533
534
535
536
537
538
539
540
541
542
543
544
545
546
547
548
549
550
551
552
553
554
555
556
557
558
559
560
561
562
563
564
565
566
567
568
569
570
571
572
573
574
575
576
577
578
579
580
581
582
583
584
585
586
587
588
589
590
591
592
593
594
595
596
597
598
599
600
601
602
603
604
605
606
607
608
609
610
611
612
613
614
615
616
617
618
619
620
|
RE: MAVS NEWS: - F Gump - 09-06-2025 (09-06-2025, 08:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I like what they did last year. Invest in a version of a baseball 4A player. A guy with pedigree who just hasn't found a footing in the NBA. Kessler Edwards fit this last year. I have seen both directions on Kai Jones. The latest I saw is because he missed a year he is eligible for a two way. Center is not a position of need, but if he is able for a two way he would be a good get. The regular NBA spots seem really limited. There are probably a lot of others who are similar to Omax. That is what I would gamble on. Agreed in general. Re Kai, he is definitely not eligible for a 2-way, so we can put that idea to bed unless we have a roster spot and a need for another C. (I would be fine if he replaced Powell, frankly, but DP still has a contract to play out.) Kai did NOT actually miss an entire year (although many mistakenly think so). He was on an NBA roster that year (twice, IIRC), but didn't get into a game. You can look it up. RE: MAVS NEWS: - SkenfromLMF - 09-06-2025 It looks good now and I am pretty impressed with what was accomplished, but the proof will be in March - April. IF they are not churning the 2-way players who are running out of NBA game eligibility, then we can look back on this summer and proclaim it successful. IF they can be in position to compete for homecourt and the main core pieces are healthy and contributing to that goal, this might be a top 5 summer ever. RE: MAVS NEWS: - DallasMaverick - 09-06-2025 (09-06-2025, 03:57 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: It looks good now and I am pretty impressed with what was accomplished, but the proof will be in March - April. How’d they manage to do that without Lindsey?? RE: MAVS NEWS: - DallasMaverick - 09-06-2025 Maybe Nico is really, really good at the small- and medium-sized moves, but really, really bad on the big ones. Has anyone been paying attention to which day of the week he’s made his bad moves? RE: MAVS NEWS: - F Gump - 09-06-2025 (09-06-2025, 05:18 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: How’d they manage to do that without Lindsey?? Unless I missed something, the last good trade(s) they made were with Lindsey. Did you see Nico manage to make a good trade without Lindsey's skill in negotiating the deal? I did notice that Nico was able to move OMax off the roster at no cost, negotiating to get one of the teams with unused Exception room or cap room to take him for a cash payment. Oh wait ...never mind. RE: MAVS NEWS: - Ghost of Podkolzin - 09-06-2025 (09-06-2025, 05:22 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Maybe Nico is really, really good at the small- and medium-sized moves, but really, really bad on the big ones. Christian Wood, Quentin Grimes, etc RE: MAVS NEWS: - mvossman - 09-07-2025 (09-06-2025, 05:22 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Maybe Nico is really, really good at the small- and medium-sized moves, but really, really bad on the big ones. Nico has not been really, really good at anything. He has been ok in free agency, poor in roster construction and terrible at trades. RE: MAVS NEWS: - myconsumerclub - 09-07-2025 (09-02-2025, 07:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: +1googled it and Gus's is world famous with a high ranking, might need to stop and get some when I am in that area. I also like Bubbas in Highland park and their mashed potatoes are the best mashed potatoes I have ever had in a restaurant. The ownership also owns Babes which is good as well but a lot more expensive since its for those who like to get free seconds since they keep bringing you more if you are still hungry. RE: MAVS NEWS: - myconsumerclub - 09-07-2025 To make any decent moves from here on out it is looking to me like they can still try to clean up the end of the roster. Home run deals can happen still if they can move an older vet for someone that is almost comparable but more on Coopers timeline but I doubt anyone is wanting to add an older vet while giving up a decent talent. Hardy: if he is going to make a move to show his worth then he can be traded for picks or get bundled with others and help us improve the roster in a trade or in a future draft /offseason. We develop him to his true potential hit or miss this season we either get him onboard or get him gone or we are stuck with him and if he gets to that level were he is a keeper and someone bites do we then trade him or is his fan favorite status something that prevents that? Martin: His game needs to improve along with his health or we really got screwed a lot more giving Philly Grimes. I am giving him a pass on last season simply because he was injured and getting traded into the hot seat with the Luka trade screwing up everything we had going on back then yeah I can see how his game went south in that environment. If he is working on the 3 and getting better and then healthy enough to defend well he may be worth his salary after all assuming he gets the minutes to show us all what he really can do. Again an improvement over prior season is needed similar to what we hope for and want from DLO and does that make them both trade chips as well. What will our assets enable us to do in the TDL market? After we see DLO at his 40% 3 shooting old self and we get a good version of Irving back do the Mav's try to trade him with others to send out enough salary so we can add in a star SG that isn't happy somewhere else and who would you say fits that description? Anthony Edwards might be there if he does not see the team winning more. Powell: He is a $4 million dollar trade chip that is expiring so teams with taxes will want to give him a new home and maybe they are willing to part with someone on Coopers timeline. Bundle him with Martin and or Hardy to sweeten the deal and enable us to get a player with more salary and a decent enough game to be rotation worthy but maybe he is unwanted or causing trouble to force a trade somewhere else. OKC has a lot of guys that they need to integrate that will not get minutes to develop? What are they going to do with all that unused talent? RE: MAVS NEWS: - F Gump - 09-07-2025 (09-07-2025, 03:00 PM)myconsumerclub Wrote: To make any decent moves from here on out it is looking to me like they can still try to clean up the end of the roster. Home run deals can happen still if they can move an older vet for someone that is almost comparable but more on Coopers timeline but I doubt anyone is wanting to add an older vet while giving up a decent talent. On an individual basis, I think what you are saying about each of those players seems about right. But I have a hard time seeing any of it actually happen because of the way they sit with their rotations, and with their payroll. On Martin and Hardy, sure, the best way to move them is after a season where they get minutes and demonstrate value. But how are either of them going to get any minutes? They are 3rd stringers, and there are too many good players in front of them (and barely enough minutes to feed the 1st and 2nd stringers). An injury or 3 at SG or SF opens up minutes, but otherwise Martin and Hardy look like an afterthought here except in very limited specialty situations. And neither has a team-friendly contract for being about 9th or lower in the pecking order. In addition, what the Mavs would get from a Martin-Hardy package is probably more self-limited besides finding somewhat-equivalent player value. What they need most from a Martin-Hardy package is probably an expiring contract, rather than a player they need to keep, because they are well over A2 next summer with the players they have (plus minimum salary adds). If you add in a good player (such as Gafford, for example) to that package and access a bigger salary (and better player) in return, you should definitely expect to get back a good player, but then you are KEEPING that player (and his salary) which locks you into remaining at that over-A2 status. That's a problem. Good GM work (not) to be in trapped into such a situation, with bad contracts that are going to continue running year after year. I really don't know what they are going to do about Martin and Hardy, but imo they are both a problem looming. RE: MAVS NEWS: - Chicagojk - 09-08-2025 So do we think everythink is A OK with the Mavs leadership now? It is so hard to read the tealeaves because they never talk. When they do they sound inept. Some of their actions also seem like they are not all connected either. The issues with assistants leaving this summer and the Kidd/Knicks thing is hard to the know if that is a nothing burger or if there is something going on behind the scenes. Cuban appears to be a little further in now too....whatever that means. I do wonder if a hot Luka/Lakers start may make things more dicey for the front office. RE: MAVS NEWS: - DL2RimRocker - 09-08-2025 (09-08-2025, 10:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: So do we think everythink is A OK with the Mavs leadership now? It is so hard to read the tealeaves because they never talk. When they do they sound inept. Some of their actions also seem like they are not all connected either. "In Nico We Don't Trust" is the band wagon I'm on and it seems jam packed. There is nothing that should make a Mavs fan more nervous than a Nico+Flagg situation. RE: MAVS NEWS: - mvossman - 09-08-2025 (09-08-2025, 10:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: So do we think everythink is A OK with the Mavs leadership now? It is so hard to read the tealeaves because they never talk. When they do they sound inept. Some of their actions also seem like they are not all connected either. I assume you are asking if there is any internal strife vs our opinion of leadership? Hard to know given the dysfunction. I'm still amazed Nico was not let go after the complete disaster of last season. Then they lucked into Flagg, which gives everyone a reprieve. My guess is Killer is right and Nico (and probably Kidd as well) will stick around until its blatantly clear window 1 is over. RE: MAVS NEWS: - Winter - 09-08-2025 (09-08-2025, 10:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: So do we think everythink is A OK with the Mavs leadership now? It is so hard to read the tealeaves because they never talk. When they do they sound inept. Some of their actions also seem like they are not all connected either. There's a lot of new people and no reported in-fighting. But a lot of things seem to be in separate silos. There are new coaches, the ownership + Rick Welts group, the new medical staff, Nico-Michael Finley GM group, and a reasonably new public relations department. Honestly, I don't think they've had enough time to create more drama. They probably could, but I don't see a lot decisions on the horizon. I suspect the major upcoming buzz-discussion will be the new season lineup and some positive pre-season talk if there are no injuries. I expect Nico's bear-like hibernation to continue. I think the only thing that could get everyone more excited is if we found out ownership was holding interviews for a new GM. RE: MAVS NEWS: - Winter - 09-08-2025 Mavs Coaching Staff Announced https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/09/mavericks-announce-2025-26-coaching-staff.html RE: MAVS NEWS: - Chicagojk - 09-09-2025 Nothing going on except the Clippers stuff. I saw Stein mentioned that the Lakers could have interest in Wiggins now that Luka has been extended. So I was wondering, without considering salary which players would you prefer over PJ on this Mavs teams (again without factoring in salaries) Andrew Wiggins Michael Porter Junior Cam Johnson Keegan Murray Brandon Ingram RE: MAVS NEWS: - Ghost of Podkolzin - 09-09-2025 (09-09-2025, 08:27 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Nothing going on except the Clippers stuff. I saw Stein mentioned that the Lakers could have interest in Wiggins now that Luka has been extended. So I was wondering, without considering salary which players would you prefer over PJ on this Mavs teams (again without factoring in salaries) Cam Johnson is the only player you list I’d consider over PJ RE: MAVS NEWS: - omahen - 09-09-2025 (09-09-2025, 08:27 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Nothing going on except the Clippers stuff. I saw Stein mentioned that the Lakers could have interest in Wiggins now that Luka has been extended. So I was wondering, without considering salary which players would you prefer over PJ on this Mavs teams (again without factoring in salaries) I think Mavs would not really need any of these guys, they should target more PG/SG type. I would assume PF/SF is covered by Davis, Flagg and Klay while Naji and Martin can be adequate replacements. If I would be looking for improvement, I would be looking for someone that can play with Kyrie while Russell and Christie take back-up roles. A good defender that can create to an extent or a really good offensive player. I guess teams are more or less set at this stage and I think it is unlikely someone will make a bigger move before at least couple of months into the season. That is why it is difficult to speak about specific names. When thinking about prototypes, I could see someone like Derrick White as a perfect piece for that first Mavs window. Or Nembhard or Mathurin from Pacers. As for Lakers, I was a bit surprised by this Stein news. Its not like there was any doubt Luka would sign an extension with Lakers. I think it might have more to do with how Luka is currently playing at Eurobasket, as he is looking as the best player currently. If you have the best player, it really doesn't make much sense for a wait and see approach. But similar as what I said in the Mavs paragraph - I doubt any team would be willing to make a move at this stage, unless you give them an offer they can't decline (overpay). I guess anyone will have more clarity closer to the TDL. Best version of Wiggins could make a lot of sense next to Luka/Reaves (best version of Wiggins has not been around for a couple of seasons), but I would not give up both Rui and a FRP for him. If Miami would be willing to do a deal for one of those assets, I would pull a trigger. But it would be very difficult to make a deal as both teams can't really take more money back. For example, Vando, Maxi and Vincent is 34 mil (add FRP as sweetener). Lakers would need three players back. Wiggins is at 28 mil, so there is barely enough space for two vet min guys. They would likely still need to involve third team to take one of those contracts, which would cost assets Lakers don't really have. An interesting option could be Rui, Vincent and Kleber (40 mil of expiring) for Wiggins, Fontecchio and Larsson (38.5 mil, 28 mil is not expiring). Doesn't look like Miami is motivated by any of these ideas. RE: MAVS NEWS: - mvossman - 09-09-2025 (09-09-2025, 09:40 AM)omahen Wrote: I think Mavs would not really need any of these guys, they should target more PG/SG type. I would assume PF/SF is covered by Davis, Flagg and Klay while Naji and Martin can be adequate replacements. If I would be looking for improvement, I would be looking for someone that can play with Kyrie while Russell and Christie take back-up roles. A good defender that can create to an extent or a really good offensive player. I guess teams are more or less set at this stage and I think it is unlikely someone will make a bigger move before at least couple of months into the season. That is why it is difficult to speak about specific names. When thinking about prototypes, I could see someone like Derrick White as a perfect piece for that first Mavs window. Or Nembhard or Mathurin from Pacers. While I agree with all of this, I think his point was to compare PJ to similar players with bigger contracts. RE: MAVS NEWS: - Ghost of Podkolzin - 09-09-2025 (09-09-2025, 09:40 AM)omahen Wrote: I think Mavs would not really need any of these guys, they should target more PG/SG type. I would assume PF/SF is covered by Davis, Flagg and Klay while Naji and Martin can be adequate replacements. If I would be looking for improvement, I would be looking for someone that can play with Kyrie while Russell and Christie take back-up roles. A good defender that can create to an extent or a really good offensive player. I guess teams are more or less set at this stage and I think it is unlikely someone will make a bigger move before at least couple of months into the season. That is why it is difficult to speak about specific names. When thinking about prototypes, I could see someone like Derrick White as a perfect piece for that first Mavs window. Or Nembhard or Mathurin from Pacers. Great post. Dyson Daniels is my dream backcourt mate for Kyrie. Offensively he’s not a traditional high usage PG, more of a combo, but defensively would complete this team for many years to come. |