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RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024
Ok, Mr. Harrison. I see you! Well done.
Now, re-sign DJJ and then turn Green, Kleber, O-Max and 2025 into Jerami Grant.
Boom - top 4 seed in the West. Championship contenders.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
Mavs Film Room ??
@MavsFilmRoom
From
@TheSteinLine
: Mavs are exploring the feasibility of signing Klay Thompson, with “some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit”
https://open.substack.com/pub/marcstein/p/the-latest-on-klay-thompson?selection=4a884115-f7eb-48cb-8476-cc5707f54548&r=yv8j&utm_medium=ios
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The possibility of Klay Thompson leaving the Golden State Warriors is stronger than ever, and the Dallas Mavericks are the latest team to show interest, per
@TheSteinLine
“League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade that I wrote about Tuesday (see the full Twitter thread here), are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:22 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Mavs Film Room ??
@MavsFilmRoom
From
@TheSteinLine
: Mavs are exploring the feasibility of signing Klay Thompson, with “some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit”
https://open.substack.com/pub/marcstein/p/the-latest-on-klay-thompson?selection=4a884115-f7eb-48cb-8476-cc5707f54548&r=yv8j&utm_medium=ios
Not the ideal outcome, especially if it comes at the sacrifice of retaining DJJ, but I do think, and have said, that Klay Thompson can help this team. Probably more than it feels like as we sit here and focus on how old he is or how he's not the player he used to be. He'd probably help quite a bit, and in a variety of ways.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
@smithraps
Andrew Wiggins out of Canadian Olympic picture, according to a source. Golden State Warriors playing hardball with veteran they are looking to move. Canadian team opens camp later tonight
@anthonyVslater
Mutual decision between the Warriors and Andrew Wiggins to prioritize his health and hold him out of Olympics, I’m told. Doesn’t preclude GSW from possibly trading him, but it’s a medical decision. Wiggins dealt with an ankle issue late this past season.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Hawks Fire Sale - Ghost of Podkolzin - 06-28-2024
So with Hardy, Green, and Grimes, it seems we have redundancy at backup SG. IMO, Green is going to be the odd man out, but isn't this the base year of his contract?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:27 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @smithraps
Andrew Wiggins out of Canadian Olympic picture, according to a source. Golden State Warriors playing hardball with veteran they are looking to move. Canadian team opens camp later tonight
@anthonyVslater
Mutual decision between the Warriors and Andrew Wiggins to prioritize his health and hold him out of Olympics, I’m told. Doesn’t preclude GSW from possibly trading him, but it’s a medical decision. Wiggins dealt with an ankle issue late this past season.
Wowza
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:27 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Not the ideal outcome, especially if it comes at the sacrifice of retaining DJJ, but I do think, and have said, that Klay Thompson can help this team. Probably more than it feels like as we sit here and focus on how old he is or how he's not the player he used to be. He'd probably help quite a bit, and in a variety of ways.
It's hard to remember given his rocky season but Klay is probably the 2nd best perimeter shooter of all time.
Even in a down year he shot 39% from 3. In a reduced role, where a majority of his shots are spot up threes I don't see why he can't be a super version of Ray Allen when he was on the Heat.
Secondly, this is a very young team now all of a sudden. Klay has 6 finals appearances and 4 rings. That is a crap ton of experience and he brings a know how of how to win on the biggest stage.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - omahen - 06-28-2024
If my understanding is correct, Mavs can basically take Thompson in at a bit over 16 mil salary if they expand their Detroit trade and include GSW. They could still create room for DJJ by shipping Green to another team without salary coming back. Mavs are down to just one SRP (2031) according to Yoshi Gozlan, so it might also be smart to replenish the pick chest a bit.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024
As always, you have to take these "insider" guys with a grain of salt, but here's a tweet reminding his followers of everything his "Dallas source" has given him advanced notice of over the past year:
https://x.com/nbainsidergoat/status/1806696850566832592
And here's the same guy, days ago, telling us how much Nico loves Grant (meaning he's in good company around here):
https://x.com/nbainsidergoat/status/1805997137018474768
I'm hopeful.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - KillerLeft - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:31 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: It's hard to remember given his rocky season but Klay is probably the 2nd best perimeter shooter of all time.
Even in a down year he shot 39% from 3. In a reduced role, where a majority of his shots are spot up threes I don't see why he can't be a super version of Ray Allen when he was on the Heat.
Secondly, this is a very young team now all of a sudden. Klay has 6 finals appearances and 4 rings. That is a crap ton of experience and he brings a know how of how to win on the biggest stage.
I agree with all that, but the info floating out there makes it seem like this would be an "instead of" move regarding DJJ, referencing the flexibility just created by the Detroit deal. I'm not buying that. I think Jones is going to get a chunk of that MLE.
So, this is PROBABLY either leaked by Dallas to make someone else they're negotiating with (either a team in trade talks or maybe even DJJ's agent, for contract negotiation purposes) remember they have options, or by Thompson for similar purposes, but to his benefit.
I can't really be mad at any of this. The front office is on a roll.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Deebo - 06-28-2024
Do not want or need Klay Thompson. He’s slow and old. Get green and maxi outta here for younger player that can be #3
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Mavs2021 - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:27 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Not the ideal outcome, especially if it comes at the sacrifice of retaining DJJ, but I do think, and have said, that Klay Thompson can help this team. Probably more than it feels like as we sit here and focus on how old he is or how he's not the player he used to be. He'd probably help quite a bit, and in a variety of ways.
...or how he could tear another ACL and his career is over while he is McGeeing his 75/3 guaranteed contract. This could literally be the move that kills the Mavs. We need to think about a long-term Kyrie replacement or at least a player like Hunter whose value we can rehab and re-trade in 18 months. Klay is dead money the moment he signs and the best case is that he does not blow out another knee or just declines cause he is old.
Please no.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Jason Terry - 06-28-2024
The early trend of the offseason to me seems like an arms race to grab up all the best perimeter players in the league
Caruso, Bridges, OG
KCP seems like the number one top dollar guy to change teams this year
We just added two 3&D players
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 11:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
The possibility of Klay Thompson leaving the Golden State Warriors is stronger than ever, and the Dallas Mavericks are the latest team to show interest, per
@TheSteinLine
“League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade that I wrote about Tuesday (see the full Twitter thread here), are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.”
"League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade that I wrote about Tuesday (see the full Twitter thread here), are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.
Thompson is said to be seeking a three-year deal at a minimum. The cap space teams are believed to prefer shorter contract structures than Thompson covets but can offset that with higher dollar amounts than teams like the Nuggets and Mavericks can muster. The Nuggets’ need for a two-way wing would be significant and obvious if Caldwell-Pope, as increasingly expected, does not return to the 2022-23 champions. Improving their outside shooting, meanwhile, is one of the Mavericks’ offseason priorities after they made the third trip in franchise history to the NBA Finals."
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
@wojespn
ESPN Sources: Golden State and Chris Paul intend to move back the date to guarantee the $30 million on his 2024-2025 contract to the start of free agency on Sunday. Deadline was originally today. This gives Warriors time to keep exploring trades.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - Ghost of Podkolzin - 06-28-2024
I'm interested to see what GS is willing to give up for the taker of Wiggins. That contract is pretty gross ($24.3m, $26.2m, $30.1m). Think we could get starter value out of him for the next 2 seasons, then dump that $30.1m contract for value, all the while get a FRP or something for taking him on?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
(06-28-2024, 12:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: ...or how he could tear another ACL and his career is over while he is McGeeing his 75/3 guaranteed contract. This could literally be the move that kills the Mavs. We need to think about a long-term Kyrie replacement or at least a player like Hunter whose value we can rehab and re-trade in 18 months. Klay is dead money the moment he signs and the best case is that he does not blow out another knee or just declines cause he is old.
Please no.
The argument "Klay could suffer a career ending injury, therefore we should not do it" is lazy.
You can say that about any top 3 player for any team on a big contract and the logic applies.
Klay is older no doubt. But his skill set is desperately needed. He'd have a reduced role compared to gsw and he just had 2 healthy seasons after 2 freak injuries
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
@MikeAScotto
Sources: Indiana Pacers forward Jalen Smith is declining his $5.4 million player option and will enter unrestricted free agency, @hoopshype has learned. Smith shot a career-high 59.2 percent from the field and 42.4 percent from 3-point range for the Pacers last season.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Stein: Mavs Trying For Klay Thompson | Hawks Fire Sale - SleepingHero - 06-28-2024
@TheDunkCentral
Momentum is shifting toward D'Angelo Russell opting into his contract with the Lakers, per
@WindhorstESPN
“To be honest with you, I don't have a great feel for what this is going to be. I thought maybe a month or so ago, D'Angelo would opt out. Now, I think there's a chance, a stronger chance he will opt in, because the market isn't looking so great right now. We can talk about that later, but I'm now kind of leaning that direction.”