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RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - ClutchDirk - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 06:17 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Anyone think Hardin will be in basketball shape by May?
Depends on how many strip clubs are in NJ...
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - omahen - 01-13-2021
They even got a pick for taking LeVert
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1349512237736751106
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - HoosierDaddyKid - 01-13-2021
Houston is going to regret trading Levert for Oladipo. Levert is a borderline all-star. I don't think Oladipo gets back to what he once was, after that quad rupture.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - Aussiebballer - 01-13-2021
Pretty sure the Cavs also took on extra salary to allow Rockets and Pacers to get under the tax.
Which probably factored into the compo they had to supply to get Allen
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - omahen - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 08:39 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: Pretty sure the Cavs also took on extra salary to allow Rockets and Pacers to get under the tax.
Which probably factored into the compo they had to supply to get Allen
Sure, they took Prince. He is overpaid but ok player. Not so horrible contract and only one season left
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 08:35 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Houston is going to regret trading Levert for Oladipo. Levert is a borderline all-star. I don't think Oladipo gets back to what he once was, after that quad rupture.
I think that's the part where Houston fans are mad about having a cheapass owner. Levert is owed money for two more seasons. Most teams would see that as a positive but....TBD if that's the reason.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - SleepingHero - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 06:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: My lord, how many starting centers do you people NEED???????
If you have all the starting centers, then the opposing teams always have no starting centers.
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RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - Kammrath - 01-13-2021
https://twitter.com/SIChrisMannix/status/1349547570549452801
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LaVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - TXBamanut - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 05:45 PM)cow Wrote: Even with Allen, the Nets were trash defensively so I like the Harden addition. Harden will keep KD happy and opens up the possibility of moving Kyrie which would have ticked him off without the Harden addition. At some point, even KD has to get fed up with the space cadet routine. The real question is, what could you get in return for him.
What you aren't thinking about is all the crap that JH was pulling in Houston...not showing up for film sessions, not showing up on time for games or planes, and how Westbrook was yelling at film sessions "Just start without his ***" and all that... KD isn't going to put up with that crap. That's going to get old fast.
Kyrie is a space cadet and KD is figuring that out....this move won't keep KD happy, and in fact, it will drive him out of BKN.
Also, on the defense, Taruean Prince and Allen were the ONLY guys on that team that actually played defense and the team was winning by 20. There is no way that their scoring will increase, but their defense will get worse...100.
The only thing I wondered was "do they know that Kyrie isn't coming back?" No THAT makes this look a whole lot different and more like a desperation move...a swing for the fences to save what is about it implode...and it may still. They may be just staving off the implode that was already happening for a month or two.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - DallasMaverick - 01-13-2021
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-nets-go-all-in-with-james-harden-but-the-move-has-risks/
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 01-13-2021
Reading the Nets forum. 2/3 of them say they'd rather have been a decent non championship team with home grown guys instead of winning a title with Harden and Kyrie. Interesting.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - KillerLeft - 01-13-2021
(01-13-2021, 11:04 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Reading the Nets forum. 2/3 of them say they'd rather have been a decent non championship team with home grown guys instead of winning a title with Harden and Kyrie. Interesting.
I can relate. They might be the two most unlikeable players in the league.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - MFFL OLD - 01-14-2021
(01-13-2021, 11:04 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Reading the Nets forum. 2/3 of them say they'd rather have been a decent non championship team with home grown guys instead of winning a title with Harden and Kyrie. Interesting.
Flags fly forever
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - Reunion Mav Old - 01-14-2021
The Mavs beat Harden, Durant and Westbrook once in 2011. I wouldn't mind our new budding dynasty doing to two of them again 10 years later. I am having dreams of two flags flying.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - meistermatze - 01-14-2021
Wow, I thought Harden would stay stuck. Not sure if there's enough balls in Brooklyn but if they out their egos aside, let Harden drive and Kick to shooters of the likes of Durant and Irving... could be dangerous. I hope they all got big dongs, otherwise I don't see much D though.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - F Gump - 01-14-2021
(01-14-2021, 07:09 AM)meistermatze Wrote: let Harden drive and Kick to shooters of the likes of Durant and Irving...
They all want the ball. Not to be the guy who gets it on the tail end of the shot clock for a couple seconds to try to hoist up a shot, either. To dominate it.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - F Gump - 01-14-2021
(01-14-2021, 12:11 AM)MFFL Wrote: Flags fly forever
No flags make the ugly even uglier.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - DanSchwartzgan - 01-14-2021
I'm not in love with this deal for Brooklyn or Houston. Culture must mean absolutely nothing to Brooklyn anymore. This smacks of impatient owners telling their GM what to do.
I would have been happier for Houston if they had kept LeVert and Allen (which would have meant one less pick and no Dipo).
To me, Cleveland is the winner here adding another young core piece. Good for them.
Indy did well also. LeVert has an injury history, but is certainly better than getting nothing this summer. I have to wonder if they could have gotten more later in the season. Did they panic a little or do they possibly already know that this is what Dipo is now and LeVert now was as good as they could get.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - Kidnova - 01-14-2021
If the rumors of animosity between Irving and the Brooklyn front office are true, then this "superteam" may be short lived and Kyrie could be in another uniform in the next few weeks.
RE: TRADE: Harden to BRK | LeVert to IND | Dipo + 4 1sts + 4 swaps to HOU | JAllen to CLE - Hypermav - 01-14-2021
I like that Luka has less competition for starting All-Star, but in reality, he is the best guard. Trae may have to worry for his gimme spot.