(07-15-2022, 07:38 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: 4.7 billion according to forbes
5.7 billion according to bloomberg

With recent reports mentioning that he lost 300-500m this year.
Compared to 99.99999999999% of people he has no financial problems. But we are comparing him to other billionaires.

(07-15-2022, 08:38 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: He knows the crowds will come in as long as Luka is here. Win or lose.

(07-15-2022, 08:53 PM)cow Wrote: Not that I'm doubting Cuban's net worth specifically, but look at Elon Musk's net worth and then look at the house of crumbling cards that make up that net worth.

(07-15-2022, 09:01 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Steve Ballmer isn't concerned about no damn luxury tax. He pays all his players and staff and is building a brand new arena. You can say what you want, Cuban should have kept Brunson.

(07-15-2022, 09:03 PM)cow Wrote: Ballmer's worth just a wee bit more than Cuban.

(07-15-2022, 09:04 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Way more.

(07-15-2022, 09:05 PM)cow Wrote: You consider 80 billion way more?

(07-15-2022, 09:03 PM)cow Wrote: Ballmer's worth just a wee bit more than Cuban.  Ballmer is exactly what Cuban thinks of himself as.

(07-15-2022, 09:08 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: It's more right? Then I do. Especially from where I'm sitting. Lol.

(07-15-2022, 08:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Right. So he knows Luka is his money maker. Why would he actively make choices that will make him lose his money maker? 

That logic doesn't make sense.

Quick Edit: I'd agree that Cuban is a cheap ass if he didn't try and fork over 110 for Brunson. That is a lot of money for JB. The Knicks gave even more. I'll die on the hill that any team paying Brunson more than 25 mil a year isn't a good team and won't go anywhere.

(07-15-2022, 09:10 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'm pretty sure Ballmer could literally buy every NBA team with a competitive offer if he wanted to.

(07-15-2022, 09:10 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'm pretty sure Ballmer could literally buy every NBA team with a competitive offer if he wanted to.

(07-15-2022, 08:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Right. So he knows Luka is his money maker. Why would he actively make choices that will make him lose his money maker? 

That logic doesn't make sense.

Quick Edit: I'd agree that Cuban is a cheap ass if he didn't try and fork over 110 for Brunson. That is a lot of money for JB. The Knicks gave even more. I'll die on the hill that any team paying Brunson more than 25 mil a year isn't a good team and won't go anywhere.

(07-16-2022, 10:40 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Salaries have changed. 

(07-16-2022, 01:29 PM)cow Wrote: The problem as I see it is that NBA front offices tend to chase trends and you'll get overpays on positions or skillsets that quickly become regrettable.  Most recently it happened with one dimensional shooters (Bertans, Harris, Robinson) because NBA offense became all about the three.  Oddly enough we bucked that trend with Curry only to trade him away and later end up with one of those horrible contracts.  You can also get the perfect storm of a large salary cap bump and severely average players getting massive paydays off of a career year.  Look at our very own Ian Mahimni and contracts signed around the same time as the perfect example  

With JB, you probably want to err on the side of an overpay for a lot of reasons.  Even if his upside is limited, he's not one dimensional and he always puts the work in to improve and then improves.  And as we saw, the likelihood of a return on our investment in him was slim to none and of course we got none.  Dallas typically has to outbid teams in dollars or years (McGee) to get them here.  

I posted about this before but I'm still not sure what to think of the mid-tier contracts.  I think I'd rather just have max deals (Luka), bargain deals (DFS, Maxi, Bullock) and low end veteran deals (McGee) than I would mid level deals (THJ, Brunson) but that's in an ideal world with options and Mavs usually don't have a lot of those.

(07-16-2022, 01:29 PM)cow Wrote: The problem as I see it is that NBA front offices tend to chase trends and you'll get overpays on positions or skillsets that quickly become regrettable.  Most recently it happened with one dimensional shooters (Bertans, Harris, Robinson) because NBA offense became all about the three.  Oddly enough we bucked that trend with Curry only to trade him away and later end up with one of those horrible contracts.  You can also get the perfect storm of a large salary cap bump and severely average players getting massive paydays off of a career year.  Look at our very own Ian Mahimni and contracts signed around the same time as the perfect example  

With JB, you probably want to err on the side of an overpay for a lot of reasons.  Even if his upside is limited, he's not one dimensional and he always puts the work in to improve and then improves.  And as we saw, the likelihood of a return on our investment in him was slim to none and of course we got none.  Dallas typically has to outbid teams in dollars or years (McGee) to get them here.  

I posted about this before but I'm still not sure what to think of the mid-tier contracts.  I think I'd rather just have max deals (Luka), bargain deals (DFS, Maxi, Bullock) and low end veteran deals (McGee) than I would mid level deals (THJ, Brunson) but that's in an ideal world with options and Mavs usually don't have a lot of those.