(11-18-2020, 12:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:

(11-18-2020, 12:18 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think I might be the only one that doesn't mind Andre Drummond. Sure he's overpaid, but he is an historic rebounder. Dennis Rodman level of rebounding. His defensive numbers aren't bad either. He's athletic as all hell and is quick enough to run around a perimeter. 

I am a Drummond apologist and I am proud.

Do you watch him play though? 

Because, and this isn't hyperbole, if you watch him play on defense and watch HIM, not the BALL, you'll find 2-3 lazy, late rotations within the first five minutes. He doesn't play hard or smart, and that's a death sentence combination for a player who has a foot speed disadvantage anytime he's on the court. 

Rebounding numbers are sexy, but I would think anyone who saw DeAndre Jordan's half season here would understand how limited their value is. There are STILL fans who think the defense here got worse when Jordan left, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. He was a STATUE out there, and maybe that might have had something to do with GETTING REBOUNDS. 

The rebounder, imo, is not nearly as important as those who are working hard to make it possible for the rebound to be grabbed.

(11-18-2020, 01:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-18-2020, 12:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote:

(11-18-2020, 12:18 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think I might be the only one that doesn't mind Andre Drummond. Sure he's overpaid, but he is an historic rebounder. Dennis Rodman level of rebounding. His defensive numbers aren't bad either. He's athletic as all hell and is quick enough to run around a perimeter. 

I am a Drummond apologist and I am proud.

Do you watch him play though? 

Because, and this isn't hyperbole, if you watch him play on defense and watch HIM, not the BALL, you'll find 2-3 lazy, late rotations within the first five minutes. He doesn't play hard or smart, and that's a death sentence combination for a player who has a foot speed disadvantage anytime he's on the court. 

Rebounding numbers are sexy, but I would think anyone who saw DeAndre Jordan's half season here would understand how limited their value is. There are STILL fans who think the defense here got worse when Jordan left, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. He was a STATUE out there, and maybe that might have had something to do with GETTING REBOUNDS. 

The rebounder, imo, is not nearly as important as those who are working hard to make it possible for the rebound to be grabbed.

I'll be honest, I only watched maybe 8 Piston games last year when Blake Griffin was going off. I never focused on Drummond alone but I didn't see anything too egregious in the games I watched. He averaged some absurd 17/16/2 in those games so it was hard to think he was doing poorly. Pistons won all but 2 games that I watched. 

I don't think Drummond is a stout defensive stalwart. Put it this way, if the Mavs were to get him, I would never expect Drummond to be the anchor to a defense. But he does get a lot of steals, and blocks. While they aren't good measures for true defensive activity, it does show SOME activity. And he has all the tools to be a great defensive player, but I don't think he'll ever become that now. 

And you have a point about rebounding being a limited ceiling raiser. Good rebounding is something all good teams have, but it doesn't take a good team to a great team.

I don't want Drummond here at anything over 20 mil. But 13-15???? Thats a highway robbery and the Mavs should be so lucky to get a player like that at that price. (I get 13-15 because that's the market for Ibaka, Harrell, and other bigmen so far).

(11-18-2020, 02:01 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: If I had to pick a guy for rebounding only Adams would be easily ahead of Drummond. Similar numbers on the offensive board but not chasing rebounds on defense.

(12-02-2020, 12:32 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1334162082275733505

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1334160554026528771

(12-02-2020, 03:06 PM)Kammrath Wrote: The nugget about him dunking was in his interview today....was talking about the milestone of dunking for the first time when they were in the bubble (which would have been like August), so months ago.

(12-08-2020, 01:49 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/NickVanExit/status/1336378022568615938

(12-08-2020, 02:23 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Tantalizing! I think we have to take this as good news. If he was looking slow then maybe he would be getting reps with the 2nd unit. You would think that DFS is starting next to Powell but man defense would look rough. 

Against the Suns you will have Jae Crowder & Ayton in your front court. Powell would be on Ayton and you could start Maxi or DFS against Crowder I think. Personally I'd rather see Maxi with Powell knowing how well they play together plus the fact that Maxi rebounds and defends so well. I am a DFS fan for sure but with J Rich in the lineup now as your best perimeter defender you aren't forced to start DFS necessarily.

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Do we still not have any live action video of Powell moving around in camp?

(12-08-2020, 03:32 PM)michaeltex Wrote: You still have CP3 and Booker to account for and I think they are a higher level danger than Crowder ( who has yet to report). I'm not wanting Luka on either of those two, I'd say Crowder is a good match for Jae and let your better defenders worry about the Suns backcourt.

(12-08-2020, 05:28 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: How many games before they put me in a padded room? Over/Under 3.5

(12-08-2020, 05:28 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: How many games before they put me in a padded room? Over/Under 3.5

(12-08-2020, 06:02 PM)BolsDamols Wrote:

(12-08-2020, 05:28 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: How many games before they put me in a padded room? Over/Under 3.5

Once you see that pep in his step when he makes a bounce pass, I think you'd change your mind 

(12-08-2020, 06:48 PM)embellisher Wrote: Naw, he even hates healthy DP.