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RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - Mavs2021 - 11-25-2024

It´s time.

Without Luka this year: 3 wins and a draw. Wink

Washington
 
20.5 PPG
10.0 RPG
2.5 APG

51/45/92 shooting

Marshall

20.5 PPG
4.0 RPG
1.5 APG

65/62/75 shooting

Hardy 

11.0 PPG
1.5 APG
1.3 SPG
2.5 TOPG

44/25/70 shooting

Dinwiddie

12.2 PPG
4.0 APG
3.3 RPG

37/38/88 shooting

Grimes

9.3 PPG
2.9 APG
3.5 RPG

41/36/100 shooting

No need to do Kyrie. His numbers are outrageous.

I also won´t do Klay or I get accused of elderly abuse.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - ThisIStheYear - 11-26-2024

I hope Klay’s Plantar Fasciitis injury listing is just precautionary. That stuff can be so much worse than it sounds, last forever, and significantly lower your floor. If the Mavs could have pulled off keeping DJj while signing Naji and Grimes (so no Klay), that would have been a better offseason. The salary math works, but I’m not sure about the order of operations, trades involved, and generally if that was feasible.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - Chicagojk - 11-26-2024

Hopefully the illnesses with Grimes and Lively are the 24 hour ones.

Wed against the Knicks is a tough one. Mavs first game back after traveling all over the place. Typically it is a tough game first game back at home. It was only 3 games though so I hope they come out strong.

After this, Dallas really needs to take care of business. The next 8 we should be favorites. Only Memphis and the clippers are against good teams. Can’t leave this stretch with some bad losses.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - KillerLeft - 11-26-2024

(11-26-2024, 10:57 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Hopefully the illnesses with Grimes and Lively are the 24 hour ones.

Wed against the Knicks is a tough one.  Mavs first game back after traveling all over the place.  Typically it is a tough game first game back at home.  It was only 3 games though so I hope they come out strong.

After this, Dallas really needs to take care of business.  The next 8 we should be favorites.  Only Memphis and the clippers are against good teams.  Can’t leave this stretch with some bad losses.

I'm pretty worried about the Knicks game, for all the reasons you mention, but I have a feeling they're primed for a good stretch after the holiday.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-26-2024

(11-26-2024, 05:32 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: I hope Klay’s Plantar Fasciitis injury listing is just precautionary. That stuff can be so much worse than it sounds, last forever, and significantly lower your floor. If the Mavs could have pulled off keeping DJj while signing Naji and Grimes (so no Klay), that would have been a better offseason. The salary math works, but I’m not sure about the order of operations, trades involved, and generally if that was feasible.

I think we have yet to see how good this team can be and Klay’s impact will really be seen in the playoffs.

Although, I would be lying if I said I haven’t already tried to figure out ways to get DJJ back on this team, but keeping basically Klay, Naji, Grimes, and Kleber. If we could trade Hardy to make it happen I would this instant.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-26-2024

Naji Marshall took to twitter today randomly and tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/marshall_naji8/status/1861469336881205747?s=46

@marshall_naji8

WE WAITING ON U 77!!!!!!!


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-26-2024

Then someone replied to Naji and said this:

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What did Naji say in response to this tweet before the guy deleted it? 

@marshall_naji8 

Can’t wait  Smile Smile Smile


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - Chicagojk - 11-28-2024

There is no doubt Nico got off to a rocky start when he was hired. We may never know the full story. I read some comments recently by Cuban that were a little eye rolling.

But since the Kyrie trade, Nico has been on a heater. Kyrie on a steal, the lively pick. PJ and Gafford trades. The Marshall jump and the Grimes trade. Not even getting to Klay yet.

After Jalen left I was literally questioning if we had the skill and the assets to build a team around Luka. It was depressing. Most of the trade targets discussed as a second option were more depressing than hopeful. Now we have a younger, taller more skilled, athletic team just two years later.

Who knows how this season plays out but man the moves Nico have made have been stellar.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - mvossman - 11-28-2024

(11-28-2024, 12:25 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: There is no doubt Nico got off to a rocky start when he was hired.  We may never know the full story.  I read some comments recently by Cuban that were a little eye rolling.

But since the Kyrie trade, Nico has been on a heater.  Kyrie on a steal, the lively pick.  PJ and Gafford trades.  The Marshall jump and the Grimes trade.  Not even getting to Klay yet.

After Jalen left I was literally questioning if we had the skill and the assets to build a team around Luka.  It was depressing.  Most of the trade targets discussed as a second option were more depressing than hopeful. Now we have a younger, taller more skilled, athletic team just two years later.

Who knows how this season plays out but man the moves Nico have made have been stellar.

Yep, I just posted this on another thread, but I think it was huge when we brought in Lindsey and he finally had a legit experienced quality FO resource to learn from.  Then you remove Cuban influence and in a few short years we suddenly have an elite GM.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - DallasMaverick - 11-28-2024

I’m thankful for a competitive, fun Mavs team to watch!

Also a couple of posters on this board.

Okay, okay. Maybe more than a couple. Even when your takes are way off base, knee-jerk, and founded on conjecture and the scantest of evidence.

You know who you are!


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-29-2024

(@GrantAfseth)
The Dallas Mavericks have a 31-12 (.721) regular season record all-time when P.J. Washington plays.

This season, the Mavericks are 10-4 (.714) when he plays compared to 1-4 (.200) without him.



I think Scott was so on point when he brought up PJ's absence as a primary reason why the Mavs looked so terrible. Makes me think if I was Nico, I'd be doing everything I can to get a proper PJ backup that can do the things he can do just in case. Is OMax that? Can Maxi still do that? Seems to be our biggest weakness there.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-29-2024

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What stands out?


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - DallasMaverick - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 10:24 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [Image: GdjmrQMXoAAcHT7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

What stands out?

Rockets defense.
Cleveland offense.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 11:07 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Rockets defense.
Cleveland offense.

Phoenix nosedive down surprised me honestly.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - SleepingHero - 11-29-2024

@GrantAfseth
Jason Kidd mentioned Klay Thompson didn’t participate in practice, but Luka Dončić and Daniel Gafford returned as participants.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - mvossman - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 10:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: (@GrantAfseth)
The Dallas Mavericks have a 31-12 (.721) regular season record all-time when P.J. Washington plays.

This season, the Mavericks are 10-4 (.714) when he plays compared to 1-4 (.200) without him.



I think Scott was so on point when he brought up PJ's absence as a primary reason why the Mavs looked so terrible. Makes me think if I was Nico, I'd be doing everything I can to get a proper PJ backup that can do the things he can do just in case. Is OMax that? Can Maxi still do that? Seems to be our biggest weakness there.

I think a lot of our troubles with him out this season was because Lively and Maxi were also out.  Its tough to win games when most of your frontcourt is injured and your star player is struggling.

I think Naji is the closest we have to PJ.  They have a lot of similarities but Naji does not have the defensive interior presence that PJ does.  For that the only option I see right now is Maxi (when healthy). 

I don't see Omax playing a significant role this season.  We are almost 20 games into the season with multiple injuries at his position, and he has yet to record a 3 pointer or a block this season.  Now that everybody is healthy, I think he would be better served playing in the G league for another year.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - BigDirk41 - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 02:21 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think a lot of our troubles with him out this season was because Lively and Maxi were also out.  Its tough to win games when most of your frontcourt is injured and your star player is struggling.

I think Naji is the closest we have to PJ.  They have a lot of similarities but Naji does not have the defensive interior presence that PJ does.  For that the only option I see right now is Maxi (when healthy). 

I don't see Omax playing a significant role this season.  We are almost 20 games into the season with multiple injuries at his position, and he has yet to record a 3 pointer or a block this season.  Now that everybody is healthy, I think he would be better served playing in the G league for another year.

I don't think Omax will ever play a significant role for the Mavs. I have never seen him possess the IT factory when I watch him. He's a freak athlete, but he's not a freak basketball player. I agree that Naji is the closest we have to PJ on the team, but there is clearly only one PJ. He's a difference maker and an All NBA defense level player. Maxi can't play any kind of extended minutes at this point in his career. He's still skilled, but fragile as glass. We really need PJ to stay healthy. This team won't compete for a championship without a healthy PJ and healthy team as far as that goes.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - Ghost of Podkolzin - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 10:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: (@GrantAfseth)
The Dallas Mavericks have a 31-12 (.721) regular season record all-time when P.J. Washington plays.

This season, the Mavericks are 10-4 (.714) when he plays compared to 1-4 (.200) without him.



I think Scott was so on point when he brought up PJ's absence as a primary reason why the Mavs looked so terrible. Makes me think if I was Nico, I'd be doing everything I can to get a proper PJ backup that can do the things he can do just in case. Is OMax that? Can Maxi still do that? Seems to be our biggest weakness there.

I've been sounding this alarm since the offseason began.  Naji is more of a SF/PF than a PF.  We need a switching defensive PF/C who can also stretch the D.  Maxi simply can't be counted on.  I still don't see OMax as an NBA rotation player.  I hope I'm wrong.  OMax emerging to replace Maxi would be incredible, but I doubt it.

Possible Candidates:
Tari Eason
Naz Reid
Dean Wade
Zach Collins
Al Horford
M.Wagner

Thoughts?


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - david75090 - 11-29-2024

Injured Maxi I can see being traded. Healthy Maxi, like we're seeing now, even if he's reluctant to take his open shots, is just the guy the Mavs need in the PF/C rotation. He's been excellent defensively.


RE: MAVS NEWS:Luka out w/Wrist| Kyrie Expected To Extend w/DAL - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 11-29-2024

(11-29-2024, 06:23 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I've been sounding this alarm since the offseason began.  Naji is more of a SF/PF than a PF.  We need a switching defensive PF/C who can also stretch the D.  Maxi simply can't be counted on.  I still don't see OMax as an NBA rotation player.  I hope I'm wrong.  OMax emerging to replace Maxi would be incredible, but I doubt it.

Possible Candidates:
Tari Eason
Naz Reid
Dean Wade
Zach Collins
Al Horford
M.Wagner

Thoughts?
I think only Zach Collins is available from that group, for various reasons.