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RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - Ghost of Podkolzin - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 10:32 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Being a "consultant" instead of a contracted "assistant", probably makes it easy for Vogel to leave if/when another head coaching position opens up.
That, and "consultant" is usually seen as front office. I can't think of a situation where a consultant was actually on the bench.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 10-03-2024
Love the Vogel hire. Legit, experienced NBA champion coach as consultant is not too shabby. I can see value in having such a set of dependable eyes on the team, only at a remove. Less likely to be swayed by emotion or vibe in the locker room when you are not around the team and traveling everyday.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - HoosierDaddyKid - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 12:59 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Frank's not hurting for $$. He was only one year into a 5 year deal with PHX worth $31MM.
Does PHX get any sort of offset if he gets hired for a coaching position?
None of them are "hurting" for $$
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - michaeltex - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 02:25 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: None of them are "hurting" for $$
Latrell Sprewell
Darius Miles
Antoine Walker
Shawn Kemp
Dennis Rodman
to name a few.
My point was that Frank is flush and can just hang out doing whatever he finds interesting with people he feels comfortable being around. Probably doesn't hurt to get closer to the new owners' piggy bank.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - RoyTarpleysGhost - 10-03-2024
I really like Frank Vogel.
Hopefully everyone is on the same page.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Luka To Miss 1 week With Bruise | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - RoyTarpleysGhost - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 10:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Listening to Kidd's answer in his interview, he did say Vogel was now apart of his staff, but as a consultant.
I really would hope he's on the bench as a lead assistant type of guy. Probably not though.
I doubt Sweeney would be up for a demotion. He's seen as one of the better young assistants in the league.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Luka To Miss 1 week With Bruise | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 05:09 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I doubt Sweeney would be up for a demotion. He's seen as one of the better young assistants in the league.
That's a very fair point. At the same time there is a chance that Sweeney/Dudley/etc. can all leave for a head coaching job. Getting Vogel on the bench aids in case of that scenario.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Luka To Miss 1 week With Bruise | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - KillerLeft - 10-03-2024
(10-03-2024, 06:26 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That's a very fair point. At the same time there is a chance that Sweeney/Dudley/etc. can all leave for a head coaching job. Getting Vogel on the bench aids in case of that scenario.
Don't you think Vogel is the most likely to land a HC gig of the three? He has won a championship, after all.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Luka To Miss 1 week With Bruise | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
(10-03-2024, 08:52 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Don't you think Vogel is the most likely to land a HC gig of the three? He has won a championship, after all.
For sure. But I do find it interesting he wasn't considered for many other HC jobs and Sweeney was.
Vogel being a consultant might mean he's the first one to leave the bench anyways, but for the time being I'm glad the Mavs are adding talent to the coaching roster.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - The Jom - 10-04-2024
Not just a talent addition. He has inside info on other organizations and their past potential trade partners. The next Mavs trade is gonna be a doozy.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
https://twitter.com/Val_Hoops/status/1841745672883876084
Almost 1 year ago.
A lot can definitely change in a year.
Also look at this. 2022-23 Staring Lineup vs. 24-25
![[Image: GZAMe-KWQAAbINT?format=jpg&name=large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZAMe-KWQAAbINT?format=jpg&name=large)
![[Image: GZAMe-LW4AE8W62?format=jpg&name=medium]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZAMe-LW4AE8W62?format=jpg&name=medium)
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - Mavs2021 - 10-04-2024
(10-04-2024, 11:19 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/Val_Hoops/status/1841745672883876084
Almost 1 year ago.
A lot can definitely change in a year.
Also look at this. 2022-23 Staring Lineup vs. 24-25
Nobody wants to play in Dallas for Cuban.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
https://x.com/DLLS_Sports/status/1841840880988377338
@DLLS_Sports
EXCLUSIVE: In a wide-ranging interview with @TheSteinLine, Mavericks coach Jason Kidd reveals that he visited 11-time NBA champion Phil Jackson over the summer to discuss coaching philosophies, employing the Triangle offense, and more.
Full interview: https://youtu.be/tlscuChT8cU
"To be able to talk basketball, it was a masterclass,” Kidd said to Marc Stein via DLLS Sports. “To be able to sit down and watch video. He was running the video and it was just surreal to be in the same room talking basketball with one of the greatest. I think he's a genius in the game of basketball. It was incredible.”
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
@LukaUpdates2
Coach Kidd will talk to Luka about new role for him this season.
https://x.com/LukaUpdates2/status/1841860927689281861
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - DallasMaverick - 10-04-2024
(10-04-2024, 11:24 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Nobody wants to play in Dallas for Cuban.
…or with a white dude like Dirk. Or Luka.
Funny how those narratives dissolve when you win, and when you have guys in their sweet spot of production.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - Ghost of Podkolzin - 10-04-2024
(10-04-2024, 12:22 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @LukaUpdates2
Coach Kidd will talk to Luka about new role for him this season.
https://x.com/LukaUpdates2/status/1841860927689281861
That's the most intelligent thing I've heard Kidd say re: offense. Like Lebron learned, Luka has to play more off the ball.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - HoosierDaddyKid - 10-04-2024
(10-03-2024, 04:00 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Latrell Sprewell
Darius Miles
Antoine Walker
Shawn Kemp
Dennis Rodman
to name a few.
My point was that Frank is flush and can just hang out doing whatever he finds interesting with people he feels comfortable being around. Probably doesn't hurt to get closer to the new owners' piggy bank.
I was speaking in terms of current players and coaches. If you're a retired player, (even if you didn't make serious money) you did what you were supposed to, (don't spend money foolishly) you should be set for the rest of your life.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Mavs Hire Frank Vogel as Consultant | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
@ShamsCharania
Dallas Mavericks G Dante Exum has sustained a serious right wrist injury that could require surgery, sources tell @TheAthletic. Treatment options are being evaluated for Exum, who emerged as a key reserve guard on Mavs NBA Finals run last season. Tough early season blow for Mavs.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Exum Has Severe Right Wrist Injury | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
(@MavsPR)
The Dallas Mavericks announced today that Mavericks guard Danté Exum sustained a right wrist injury during training camp this week.
Exum will continue to be evaluated with updates provided as appropriate.
RE: MAVS NEWS: Exum Has Severe Right Wrist Injury | 1st Preseason Game Oct. 7th - SleepingHero - 10-04-2024
@dalton_trigg
whispers
Mavs guard depth is still pretty solid, but it’s not too late to sign DSJ.
falls back into the shadows