(07-13-2022, 04:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Again, I think @"Kammrath" is doing a pretty good job of connecting the dots here. They either have a better idea than Dragic lined up or they thought they did when those negotiations were taking place. 

(07-13-2022, 04:39 PM)MrGoat Wrote: That's the part that worries me. There's a lot of offseason to go but there is that possibility they already whiffed on what that plan was. Right now that Dragic news is kind of head scratching but got to wait and see

(07-13-2022, 04:26 PM)Jommybone Wrote: Gordon Hayward

(07-13-2022, 04:39 PM)MrGoat Wrote: That's the part that worries me. There's a lot of offseason to go but there is that possibility they already whiffed on what that plan was. Right now that Dragic news is kind of head scratching but got to wait and see

(07-13-2022, 04:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, lots being made about the Durant/Kyrie/BRK situation "holding up" whatever the Mavs may have had lined up, and that's definitely possible. But, it's also possible that this very volatile, unexpected situation might have killed whatever they had lined up. Although to be fair, it's possible that there are now new opportunities becoming available as a result of that stuff, too. 

(07-13-2022, 04:52 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Hardy interview:

(07-13-2022, 04:48 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Patience is really hard.

(07-13-2022, 05:05 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: For what? Every day that a deal isn't made makes it less likely that one is going to happen, as well as making less likely the efficacy of the Skin/Kamm "they have a plan B" hypothesis.

(07-13-2022, 04:26 PM)Jommybone Wrote: I dunno, guys. I’ve been pretty impressed with the moves since Nico arrived. Bullock was a steal. The KP trade was a big plus. The trade for Wood was a masterpiece. 

Losing JB for nuttin’ hurts big time. But it’s hard to judge how bad it is till the dominos are done falling. Clearly they ain’t. 

The Dragic news points unmistakably towards already having a bird in hand. I get the point that it might only be a bird in the bush. But I’m having a hard time believing they tell Dragic they don’t have minutes for him unless there’s already a handshake deal with someone they trust.

The trust thing rules out a Lowry deal with the Heat I suppose. So I’m gonna guess Gordon Hayward. THJ & Dwight to the Pacers. Turner to Charlotte. Why not.

(07-13-2022, 10:37 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Now to look for THJ or THJ/Powell deals that yield a defensive wing and a third PG who might have been willing to take a day off once every five so Dragic could play his once every five games.

(07-13-2022, 04:26 PM)Jommybone Wrote: I dunno, guys. I’ve been pretty impressed with the moves since Nico arrived. Bullock was a steal. The KP trade was a big plus. The trade for Wood was a masterpiece. 

Losing JB for nuttin’ hurts big time. But it’s hard to judge how bad it is till the dominos are done falling. Clearly they ain’t. 

The Dragic news points unmistakably towards already having a bird in hand. I get the point that it might only be a bird in the bush. But I’m having a hard time believing they tell Dragic they don’t have minutes for him unless there’s already a handshake deal with someone they trust.

The trust thing rules out a Lowry deal with the Heat I suppose. So I’m gonna guess Gordon Hayward. THJ & Dwight to the Pacers. Turner to Charlotte. Why not.

(07-13-2022, 04:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I disagree with this, particularly because it's NOT the Burke role that most needs to be filled right now, and we can surmise from the pieces of info coming in that the Burke role WAS what they offered him. 

That means A) they DID value him (in that role) more than the other "guys they could get off the street" but B) not enough to offer him the bigger, vitally important role we all know they have available. 

Again, I think @"Kammrath" is doing a pretty good job of connecting the dots here. They either have a better idea than Dragic lined up or they thought they did when those negotiations were taking place. 

When the dust clears, the question will be: were they right to prioritize the choices they made, or not? If nothing better materializes, no. If it does, sure. It's that simple.

(07-13-2022, 04:47 PM)Kammrath Wrote: !!!!!

He meets the criteria of playoff rotation wing AND secondary creation skills. 

Hayward now jumps Simmons in my mind as the best candidate that matches all the known criteria. 

Good call!

(07-13-2022, 07:27 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Can he stay healthy? 

(07-13-2022, 07:21 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: A Goran Dragic on hand is worth 2 Ben Simmons in the bush

(07-13-2022, 08:28 PM)MrGoat Wrote: I think you're overvaluing what a Ben Simmons in the bush is worth.

(Also, I thought we couldn't trade for Ben Simmons because he is on a rookie max extension and you can't trade for one of those players if you already have one, which we do)