(07-30-2024, 02:23 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Iztok created a substack and this is his first article.  I believe it is open to all.


https://digginbasketball.substack.com/p/introducing-new-maverick-quentin

(07-30-2024, 02:51 PM)mvossman Wrote: Thanks for posting this.  I think Grimes is going to be really good here.  A better (and much younger) Bullock.  As a high volume movement shooter, he is the perfect backup for Klay, but I think he will get more minutes than that.

(07-30-2024, 02:51 PM)mvossman Wrote: Thanks for posting this.  I think Grimes is going to be really good here.  A better (and much younger) Bullock.  As a high volume movement shooter, he is the perfect backup for Klay, but I think he will get more minutes than that.

(07-31-2024, 06:46 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: What I sort of got from the article is that while Grimes may or may not be a better player than Josh Green, I think he fits better into the role the Mavs wanted Green to play.   I have said several times that the role the Mavs wanted Green to play was probably not the right role for him (at this time).  Green is a good passer and has the makings of a good connector.  It seems like the Mavs didn't value this part of his game very much.

While Green developed into a good open three shooter, you very rarely had to worry about him taking 8 threes in a game.   Typically a good shooting game for him was something like 3 for 5.   I think Grimes may be more willing to take more shots.   There is some good and bad with that, but I think teams will defend him like a more aggressive shooter as well.  As Iztok mentions, this will help to spread the floor a little bit as well.

I think Grimes will be asked to play the Josh Green role on defense as well.   Hopefully just better.  Green wasn't quite there yet as a man on man defender imo.   As Iztok mentions, Grimes should be able to navigate screens better than Green.  I will be interesting to see how Grimes guards the smaller point guards and also the 6'6-6'7ish wings.   

I also found it interesting how Iztok says he had someone tell him he may be the worst dribbling guard in the league.   While that is probably an overstatement, I think I agree that he is going to get most of his minutes as a wing while he may be asked to guard guards.   So him being on the court as a second or even third creator on the floor may not happen very regularly.

(07-31-2024, 11:46 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think the Mavs valued Green's ability to be a connector, but POA defense and volume shooting were a higher priority and he could not deliver on either.  There is no question Grimes will be willing to take more shots.  He averages nearly twice as many threes per 36 as Green.  In the longer term, I can see Grimes taking over DJJ/Klay spot in the starting lineup as the POA defender and floor spacer.

(07-31-2024, 12:00 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO DJJ is very different from Klay.  I'd rather look towards a huge DJJ/OMax upgrade with Grimes eventually taking over for Kyrie.

(07-31-2024, 12:45 PM)mvossman Wrote: Obviously DJJ and Klay are very different.  I'm referring to that spot in the lineup.  The idea is that Grimes would handle POA defense (DJJ) and floor spacing (Klay).  He is not as good as either at their specialty, but he might be the best combination of the two (especially in a couple of years).  Grimes can't take over Kyrie spot.  We need a second creator on the floor with Luka, and that's not Grimes.

(07-31-2024, 09:08 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: IMO this is problematic with the way the summer played out...
Dallas does not have a Ky replacement available in the wings (don't want to rehash what should have been with Brunson) and that means they will attempt to find that player with lower draft picks (when they have them) or they will have to find another player to buy low as a PG (that player MIGHT have been Fultz) unless they are baking on Hardy projecting to that role without developmental PT. Call me skeptical on Hardy and all of a sudden I am hoping for a Nelson type draft (Dirk/Nash or Luka/Brunson).

(07-31-2024, 09:08 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: IMO this is problematic with the way the summer played out...
Dallas does not have a Ky replacement available in the wings (don't want to rehash what should have been with Brunson) and that means they will attempt to find that player with lower draft picks (when they have them) or they will have to find another player to buy low as a PG (that player MIGHT have been Fultz) unless they are baking on Hardy projecting to that role without developmental PT. Call me skeptical on Hardy and all of a sudden I am hoping for a Nelson type draft (Dirk/Nash or Luka/Brunson).

(08-01-2024, 01:11 AM)Knutsen Wrote: I think they are planning to keep Kyrie for at least three or four more years, which means extending his current deal - that is if he shows no serious signs of wearing down. Nash could play up to a high age, Kidd could as well, Paul could, so why shouldn’t Kyrie if he has no major injuries in the next years like a torn Achilles or ACL. 

Therefore having a successor right now wouldn’t make too much sense, because he couldn’t develop properly - and if he could you would have to pay him before you need him. That’s why I‘d expect temporary solutions for the next couple of seasons like Dinwiddie, who can step up when Kyrie misses a couple of games during the season.

(07-31-2024, 06:46 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: What I sort of got from the article is that while Grimes may or may not be a better player than Josh Green, I think he fits better into the role the Mavs wanted Green to play.   I have said several times that the role the Mavs wanted Green to play was probably not the right role for him (at this time).  Green is a good passer and has the makings of a good connector.  It seems like the Mavs didn't value this part of his game very much.

While Green developed into a good open three shooter, you very rarely had to worry about him taking 8 threes in a game.   Typically a good shooting game for him was something like 3 for 5.   I think Grimes may be more willing to take more shots.   There is some good and bad with that, but I think teams will defend him like a more aggressive shooter as well.  As Iztok mentions, this will help to spread the floor a little bit as well.

I think Grimes will be asked to play the Josh Green role on defense as well.   Hopefully just better.  Green wasn't quite there yet as a man on man defender imo.   As Iztok mentions, Grimes should be able to navigate screens better than Green.  I will be interesting to see how Grimes guards the smaller point guards and also the 6'6-6'7ish wings.   

I also found it interesting how Iztok says he had someone tell him he may be the worst dribbling guard in the league.   While that is probably an overstatement, I think I agree that he is going to get most of his minutes as a wing while he may be asked to guard guards.   So him being on the court as a second or even third creator on the floor may not happen very regularly.

(08-02-2024, 01:58 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheGarciaKidd_/status/1819018027616063696

Someone posted their own footage of Dirk's 3 in Game 2 of the 2011 Finals in the AAC and it is wild.

Still get goosebumps watching that shot.

(08-01-2024, 04:13 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: As I’ve said a couple times before when Grimes name was being bandied about, pre-trade: just wait until he’s here, there is plenty about his game to pick apart. Count me among those who thinks we will collectively miss the extreme energy, all-out hustle and athleticism that Josh brought. I like the edge that Naji will bring. But Green and DJJ gone subtracts a shit ton of athleticism and hustle from our rotation.

All that said, I have liked aspects of Grimes game in the past and I hope he is absolutely amazing for us. I wouldn’t be shocked if he carves out a longer term role here and gets another contract from us. I agree with those that think he should focus on a 3-D role. He isn’t much of a playmaker or rebounder. And I’m not a fan of guys launching shots to “keep a defense honest.” I like that Josh often made the extra pass, though I agree there were times he passed up a better shot for someone else’s worse look. I want more ball movement for our offense, not less.

(08-02-2024, 10:19 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO, Grimes/Naji >>> Green/DJJ

(08-03-2024, 04:42 PM)From Dirk to Luka Wrote: I am curious what you base that on? 

Mavs fan only here (since Donaldson, Brad Davis) who knows little about other mid to low level NBA players/contributors, so it is truly just a curious question.

I'll hang up and listen.  

(08-03-2024, 06:10 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think Grimes is better than Green.  He is a significantly better defender and he is a much more willing shooter.  Green has a more versatile offensive game, but he just doesn't do it enough to matter.  

Naji is probably better than DJJ.  Naji is bigger and stronger than DJJ, but not as long and quick.  I think DJJ is the better POA defender, but Naji can probably defend more size.  Naji has a better overall offensive game, and if he can keep his 3 shooting near what it was last season, he will definitely be better on that end.