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RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - Scott41theMavs - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 05:41 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: How do we feel about Paul George to the Warriors?
Even as a Mavs fan, I don’t want to see Steph toil away with no help like Dirk did in his later years.
See, PG is a better basketball fit than Kyrie, but the main reason why I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Mavs is character. Cf. the off-court stuff/the beef with Seth Curry. Don't want to have to root for that guy, at all. I'd root for Miles Bridges quicker, tbh.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 05:41 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: How do we feel about Paul George to the Warriors?
Even as a Mavs fan, I don’t want to see Steph toil away with no help like Dirk did in his later years.
I feel similarly, but doubt any of these front offices are in a hurry to do the Warriors any favors. I think these people have waited for the chance to stick it to them for years (hence the new rules, to some extent).
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 05:58 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: See, PG is a better basketball fit than Kyrie, but the main reason why I wouldn't want him anywhere near the Mavs is character. Cf. the off-court stuff/the beef with Seth Curry. Don't want to have to root for that guy, at all. I'd root for Miles Bridges quicker, tbh.
What off court problems does Paul George have?
He knocked up a stripper and then ended up marrying her. He always comes across as one of the nicest guys in the league.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - HoosierDaddyKidd - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 06:33 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: What off court problems does Paul George have?
He knocked up a stripper and then ended up marrying her. He always comes across as one of the nicest guys in the league.
He also has a pretty good podcast.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - F Gump - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 05:41 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: How do we feel about Paul George to the Warriors?
Even as a Mavs fan, I don’t want to see Steph toil away with no help like Dirk did in his later years.
Crazier things have happened, but this one would have a lot of moving parts. It would have to be in July, and a 3-team trade, off-loading salary to a 3rd team, since GS and LAC are both 100% match teams.
Most proposed ideas floating out there aren't CBA-legal.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The Knicks, Jazz, and Rockets are three teams that have been checking on Mikal Bridges’ availability, per
@JakeLFischer
“Brooklyn Nets swingman Mikal Bridges, according to league sources, is a player to monitor among Utah’s most aggressive aspirations. The Jazz are said to be right in the mix with Houston, holding the No. 3 pick, and New York, where three of Bridges’ college teammates currently play, among the teams that continue to check with Brooklyn about the availability of its 27-year-old swingman.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The Lakers are shopping the No. 17 pick, and Jerami Grant is a potential trade target, per
@JakeLFischer
“Los Angeles has also made that No. 17 selection available via trade, sources said, as the Lakers have evaluated the market for a significant contributor alongside James and Davis…Jerami Grant, a client of Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul, is believed to be another potential addition on the Lakers’ wishlist, according to league sources.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The Lakers could target Jonas Valanciunas as their starting center, per
@JakeLFischer
“Pelicans center Jonas Valančiūnas, who’s approaching unrestricted free agency, has been another big man often mentioned by NBA figures as a potential Lakers frontcourt addition this summer.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
SH, are you meaning to unpin this thread, or are you doing it by accident?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - DanSchwartzgan - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 04:02 PM)F Gump Wrote: FWIW you would do this trade in July, so the 1st domino to fall would be news that Shamet's deadline on the waive-by date has been moved into July, accompanied by a rumor that DAL is getting WAS pick 26.
Am I right to assume you'd only guarantee enough of Shamet's salary to be within $7.5mm of THJ's number? So, $16.193mm minus $7.5mm = $8.693mm. If you don't guarantee the full amount, you might as well S/W what is left. The S/W amount is $2.898mm per year on the books. If you do that, I show about $15.7mm of room under the apron to fund a cushion, DJJ at some number up to $12.9mm and potentially fund some or part of the BAE.
We've talked about the #26 for 2025 swap, but the better route might be to keep your pick and use part of the MLE on DJJ and the BAE on someone better than what you'd get at that point in the draft. At the TDL, you still have Green/Maxi and two picks that you can use to go 'medium game hunting'.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 07:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: SH, are you meaning to unpin this thread, or are you doing it by accident?
By total accident. My bad.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
I've added a permanently stickied thread for all the new rules and triggers for the CBA. Let me know what you guys think or if it should be deleted
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 09:05 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I've added a permanently stickied thread for all the new rules and triggers for the CBA. Let me know what you guys think or if it should be deleted
Outstanding!
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - HoosierDaddyKidd - 06-24-2024
https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1805354230875648456
OG Anunoby is an unrestricted FA
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
@LegionHoops
REPORT: Some in the Warriors organization don’t view Klay Thompson as an essential part of their core group moving forward, per
@BrettSiegelNBA
.
“The Warriors still value Thompson's contributions to their historic success, sources said, yet some in the organization do not view him as an essential part of their core group moving forward with the emergence of Jonathan Kuminga and Brandin Podziemski.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - F Gump - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 09:05 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I've added a permanently stickied thread for all the new rules and triggers for the CBA. Let me know what you guys think or if it should be deleted
The CBA has become even more complex and extensive with the new rules, as we all know, so I suspect there will be more and more info added as time goes along.
If you add to it or make changes, would you please use a separate post?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - F Gump - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 07:24 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: 1 Am I right to assume you'd only guarantee enough of Shamet's salary to be within $7.5mm of THJ's number? So, $16.193mm minus $7.5mm = $8.693mm.
2 If you don't guarantee the full amount, you might as well S/W what is left.
3 The S/W amount is $2.898mm per year on the books. If you do that, I show about $15.7mm of room under the apron to fund a cushion, DJJ at some number up to $12.9mm and potentially fund some or part of the BAE.
We've talked about the #26 for 2025 swap, but the better route might be to keep your pick and use part of the MLE on DJJ and the BAE on someone better than what you'd get at that point in the draft. At the TDL, you still have Green/Maxi and two picks that you can use to go 'medium game hunting'.
1 Yes, there's no reason to guarantee more of Shamet contract than necessary (and no sooner than necessary) no matter what you intend to do later. I have the same numbers as you.
2 Likely a SW Shamet follows, but I'd have explored if a different team wants to swap their useless player at a lower salary for Shamet at 11M, so I can SW a smaller salary.
3 I show a bit more room (16.29M) after that move, with 12 players (one of which is Lawson).
....Not sure how that would get used. The easy allocation is a full MLE (12.9), a minimum (2.1), and a cushion (1.3) that might be used at times for short-term NG deals into the 15th slot.
....But I think DJJ's limited offense makes him a lower value than full MLE. So how do you try to negotiate with him? I think I'd offer DJJ a 3+1 (TO) deal in that sort of setup, which is something like DJJ 10.5, BAE 4.7, cushion 1.1. DJJ money in that offer is 4 yrs 47M (with 34M guaranteed).
4 Obviously such a deal re Shamet hinges on how THJ is valued (or not) from team to team. Maybe Mavs can do better, and maybe some team will see him as a plus.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:09 PM)F Gump Wrote: The CBA has become even more complex and extensive with the new rules, as we all know, so I suspect there will be more and more info added as time goes along.
If you add to it or make changes, would you please use a separate post?
Yeah absolutely I can make a separate thread in the future. I've used the "announcement" feature so it's out of the way, but there's nothing stopping me from making a proper stickied "thread" that anyone can comment on if that's what everyone wants.
Just wanted something we can all quickly reference as we're making our fake treads at this time!
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-25-2024
NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Warriors have exhibited no desire to part with Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, Brandin Podziemski and Trayce Jackson-Davis, per @MontePooleNBCS
“Getting a veteran impact player almost certainly would require moving Jonathan Kuminga, who projects to have the highest upside of Golden State’s under-25 players.
The Warriors have exhibited no desire to part with Kuminga, and their same intent has been applied to Moses Moody, Brandin Podziemski and Trayce Jackson-Davis.”
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25:ATL Fire Sale? WAS/MIA/DET/ATL Spots for THJ? DAL Likes Shamet? - F Gump - 06-25-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:18 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Yeah absolutely I can make a separate thread in the future. I've used the "announcement" feature so it's out of the way, but there's nothing stopping me from making a proper stickied "thread" that anyone can comment on if that's what everyone wants.
Just wanted something we can all quickly reference as we're making our fake treads at this time!
Got it. Thanks.
BTW, on what's already there, you might want to amend the part about a team being penalized for being below Min Team Salary on day 1 of regular season - in that case, it's not just a cap hold being charged. They actually get fined the difference at that day, and also forfeit any share in the tax dollars collected. Suffice to say, all 30 teams will be sure to spend to be above that line.