(02-08-2024, 06:34 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: If I were to be honest, I would have done the PJ trade but not the Gafford trade.  I may completely change my opinion on both but taking my thoughts previous to today that is where I would have landed.  But I am wrong often.  I thought Grant would be great here

(02-08-2024, 10:28 PM)Smitty Wrote: Mavs 3-0 on the road trip

Josh Green 15.6/4.6/3.3 47% 3PT (5.6 APG)

This is who he is now!

(02-09-2024, 03:53 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Dalton Trigg (@dalton_trigg)
Exclusive: Mavs and Tim Hardaway Jr. have mutual interest in a long-term extension.

“Obviously we can see him being around for a long time, and I know he wants to stay,” @mcuban tells http://dallasbasketball.com/.

#MFFL @SInow: https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/exclusive-mavs-and-hardaway-jr-have-mutual-interest-in-long-term-extension

(02-09-2024, 04:14 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Landon Thomas (@sixfivelando)
Luka Dončić has averaged 37.9 points, 11.1 rebounds and 10.5 assists in his last 10 games.

50% FG / 37.1% 3PT

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Grant Afseth (@GrantAfseth)
Jason Kidd on trade deadline additions: "I would just like to ask everyone to have some patience. Because anytime you add two new pieces, or maybe three new pieces, it takes time to get a rhythm and to understand each other. But we're very excited to have those two."

(02-09-2024, 03:53 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Dalton Trigg (@dalton_trigg)
Exclusive: Mavs and Tim Hardaway Jr. have mutual interest in a long-term extension.

“Obviously we can see him being around for a long time, and I know he wants to stay,” @mcuban tells http://dallasbasketball.com/.

#MFFL @SInow: https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/exclusive-mavs-and-hardaway-jr-have-mutual-interest-in-long-term-extension

(02-09-2024, 08:23 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Weird Cuban brought up extension for Hardaway now.

If Dinwiddie is signed, things get really tight if everyone is healthy.
Regardless, Josh Green minutes cannot be compromised.  Also, if Exum is healthy, his minutes backing up Green should also not be compromised.  Both guys will be asked to defend.  jones gets any remaining minutes.  Not sure if it will play out that way though.

(02-09-2024, 08:54 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think everyone here should take the time to listen carefully to the Hoop Collective’s read on the Mavs’ day in their trade deadline recap episode. You don’t have to agree, but if you listen with an open mind it will scare you, at least a little.

Honestly, I don’t know if Luka stays or goes. I think he signs the supermax and then asks out afterwards if he does go, but…I think the lack of draft capital might make that decision for me if I were he.

If that happens, then they’ll probably recoup a little draft capital by moving him, but it won’t be nearly as good as their own draft capital that OKC, BRK and SA will be feasting on at that time.

And, what are they going to do if he just leaves in two years as a free agent, Brunson style??? I don’t think that’s likely, exactly, but we didn’t want to acknowledge the possibility with Brunson, either. I think they’d end up being very happy that they top two predicted the pick they just traded to Charlotte, but even if they win five fewer games than anybody else in the NBA they will still be depending on ping-pong balls to keep that pick. After that, they won’t control any of their own draft capital, which should all be amazing draft capital, for few years.

I like both of the moves they made yesterday in terms of the players they added. The more I think about it, however, the more I think the smartest thing would have been to do nothing or maybe even to try to add draft capital by selling off some of their depth.

(02-09-2024, 09:07 AM)Smitty Wrote: I tend to agree with about 90% of your posts. This one I see much differently. The best way to keep Luka a Maverick is to win. Period.

(02-09-2024, 03:53 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Dalton Trigg (@dalton_trigg)
Exclusive: Mavs and Tim Hardaway Jr. have mutual interest in a long-term extension.

“Obviously we can see him being around for a long time, and I know he wants to stay,” @mcuban tells http://dallasbasketball.com/.

#MFFL @SInow: https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/exclusive-mavs-and-hardaway-jr-have-mutual-interest-in-long-term-extension

(02-09-2024, 09:14 AM). KillerLeft Wrote: Every time they do one of these deals, the future gets a little less bright. I like the two players they got a lot, I just don’t think they can afford to operate like this anymore. They really are starting to feel like Cleveland did the first time LeBron played there.

(02-09-2024, 09:25 AM)Smitty Wrote: Yes, I agree completely. They are mortgaging/risking a lot of their future to build a team around Luka that is capable of winning. But do you blame them? Don't you have to show Luka that you're making every effort possible to put the right guys around him? 

Luka is involved in these discussions and wants these to happen. LeBron and Luka are two of the few players in the league, that demand winning at all costs. As fans, we certainly discuss/debate how that's a bad idea for a franchise to operate, rightfully so. I just don't think it's realistic to expect the front office to "do nothing" or "try to add draft capital by selling off some of their depth".

(02-09-2024, 09:14 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, but I’m not saying anything to contradict that. What I’m saying is that they are putting themselves in a situation where “winning” will no longer be a choice they can make.

What Luka is going to care about the next time he has to make a decision is not only whether or not the team has been competitive in the years leading up to that decision, it will be even more about his opinion of their chances to be competitive moving into the future from that point in time. 

Every time they do one of these deals, the future gets a little less bright. I like the two players they got a lot, I just don’t think they can afford to operate like this anymore. They really are starting to feel like Cleveland did the first time LeBron played there.

(02-09-2024, 09:31 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I agree that Luka probably needs to see a plan NOW, and that he’s probably one of the main voices deciding things like “Grant is weird, get him out of here” or “PJ seems like a good fit.” 

And before this summer, I would’ve been resigned to this path like you seem to be. 

But man, their maneuvering on draft night changed me. Imagine if they had just done that three years in a row up until the next free agent period for Luka. Imagine the amount of young talent there would be around here at that point, and imagine how much experience some of it would have by then. I have to believe that Luka is smart enough to see the wisdom in that approach, and think I would’ve tried to sell them on it. Who knows, maybe they did…

Don’t get me wrong – I am excited to watch these two new players with the team, and I do think they’ll make the team better.

(02-09-2024, 09:07 AM)Smitty Wrote: I tend to agree with about 90% of your posts. This one I see much differently. The best way to keep Luka a Maverick is to win. Period.

Luka and Brunsons situation are worlds apart. IMO, there is less than 0.00000000001% chance that Luka does not sign the supermax extension. If he wants out afterwards, the Mavs will set the record for returning draft capital coming back.