(12-13-2023, 02:42 PM)WillE Wrote: Did the last few games change your view on his outside shooting?

The raw numbers look pretty decent to me and if he's able to sustain those, he gives the coaches a really hard time about the best rotations.

(12-15-2023, 08:28 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: We will see if it lasts (and he can stay healthy), but I have Exum as the fourth best player currently (I have Lively third at the moment).  I will be interested to see how the rotation plays out when everyone is healthy.  Do they put Green back at the starter and at the 6 minute mark bring in Exum and Hardaway.  Or do they role with Exum and just start the rotations with Hardaway coming in at 6 minutes?  At PF, I think I like Grant and Jones as the PF grouping with our current guys.  Maybe Maxi or Morris get run depending on the matchups.  Then we have the backup center position where Maxi, Dwight and Holmes are fighting for that 15-20 minutes. 

It feels like when everyone is healthy Seth, Hardy and Green could be in trouble of getting long runs.    It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

(12-15-2023, 10:52 AM)mvossman Wrote: EPM is very noisy this early in the season, but it agrees with your (and my) eye test.  It has:

Luka
Kyrie
Lively
Exum
DJJ
Timmy
Williams
Powell

Kind of crazy that our 3-5 guys were all acquired this last offseason and making less than 5 mil a year.

(12-15-2023, 01:16 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Williams is ranked in the  50th percentile.  That's disappointing, but dead in line with prior two seasons.  DJJ isn't that far off his norm in this metric either.  Powell has seen a big drop off (his past two seasons have been 77 and 82).  Green was a 60 last season (better early and worse after the injury).  A few years ago Holmes was actually in the 90's.

Using GWill at the 50th percentile as the cutoff, if you go team by team, here is the list of anyone who has been mentioned in recent days who ranked higher than that:

52  DFS
52  Hayward
86  Caruso
67  Vucevic
62  Drummond
62  P. Williams
63  Bojan (5 games)
78  Hartenstein (not likely with Robinson out)
70  J. Isaac
89  Anunoby
87  Siakam
71  Poeltl
71  Gafford
67  Kuzma
93  Markkanen
65  J. Grant

The real difference makers (Markkanen, Siakam, OG and Caruso) will be very expensive.  Anyone else isn't much of an upgrade or has to be projected based on past performance and fit.   For instance, John Collins is a 36 right now, was a 50 last season with the bad finger and was an 86, 90 and 93 the three seasons prior.  What number would he likely achieve if he was here?  My guess is it would be higher than 36 (BTW, there were a couple of D-EPM's in the 70's in recent years).  

Olynyk is also reported as a Jazz player likely to be moved.  He's a 42 right now, but his prior 3 seasons were 75, 78 and 78.  A good front office doesn't reject a player based on bad current numbers on a bad team.  They project what a player might do here based on fit and past performance.

(12-15-2023, 02:24 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Hayward is the buyout candidate I’m looking for. We also have that $5Mish left in MLE money so we can outbid anyone for him.

(12-15-2023, 03:34 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Not sure Dallas can use all of that MLE before hitting the Apron...
Hayward does do some things for the roster IF he can get 25+ mpg effectively:
1) He would definitively isolate the Guards from the PF's. There should be a clear SF rotation of Hayward and THJ
2) This would then create a rotation of Williams/DJJ most exclusively at PF
3) Exum would emerge as the 3rd PG with Green/Curry/Hardy working as the 2-guard rotation (not much when all the horses are healthy)

The question is who is the roster casualty IF there is not a 2-for-1 trade made prior to adding GH?

(12-15-2023, 04:16 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After looking at it, they have $3.4M under the apron. It won’t be a 2 for 1 deal though. After tonight when Boston beats Orlando because they just didn’t have enough shooting to power through, their GM calls up Nico and the deal becomes:

Bitadze/Harris/Isaac/4 SRPs for THJ/Maxi/Hardy/Morris

Adds about $200k to our spending power making the offer to Hayward roughly $3.6M.

Luka/Kyrie/Hayward/GWill/Lively
Exum/Green/DJJ/Isaac/Bitadze

(12-16-2023, 05:39 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: That ain´t happening in-season, but Bitadze and Harris are UFA in the summer and Isaac, if Orlando doesn´t want him.

(12-16-2023, 09:20 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I reject your premise that it won’t happen in-season, but will in the offseason.

(12-16-2023, 09:24 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: 1. I don´t see Orlando screwing with their current success/chemistry.
2. I think they only let Isaac/Bitadze get away, if they can hook a big fish like Siakam or Anunoby in free agency.

It just doesn´t make sense to do anything in season for them. They are winning for the first time in a decade and they have capspace in the summer, so they don´t need to waste assets now.

(12-15-2023, 09:57 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Yes.  I'm pretty happy with 42% from 3.  I think you can make a good argument that Exum has been our 4th or 5th best player this season.  The signing just keeps getting better and better.

(12-16-2023, 09:42 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: If they see a reason to get THJ and Maxi, they aren’t waiting till the offseason. OG plays Franz’s position and Siakam plays Banchero’s. No reason to hold out for them.

(12-15-2023, 04:16 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After looking at it, they have $3.4M under the apron. It won’t be a 2 for 1 deal though. After tonight when Boston beats Orlando because they just didn’t have enough shooting to power through, their GM calls up Nico and the deal becomes:

Bitadze/Harris/Isaac/4 SRPs for THJ/Maxi/Hardy/Morris

Adds about $200k to our spending power making the offer to Hayward roughly $3.6M.

Luka/Kyrie/Hayward/GWill/Lively
Exum/Green/DJJ/Isaac/Bitadze

(12-16-2023, 10:08 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Eh Anunoby is a SG/SF, Wagner is a SF/PF and Bancheor is a PF/C. They can easily fit them together. Combined with Suggs that´s the deadliest defense in the league outside of Boston. Why risk that for an in-season trade of THJ or Kleber?

Also for the Mavs it makes more sense to use more assets on a Markkanen, Hayward or Washington now, and then improve around the edges in the summer chasing guys like Hartenstein, Bitadze, Bamba, Harris that you can realistically sign using exceptions....

(12-16-2023, 10:00 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Arguably 2nd, no worse than 4th and actually 3rd until Kyrie really starts to play. Luka and Lively have been 1 and 2.

(12-17-2023, 11:00 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Zach Lowe gave the Mav's some love on the most recent pod.  He thinks our best lineup is Lively, GWill, Exum, Kyrie and Luka which he say have not played a single minute of time this season (quotes Cleaning The Glass).