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RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
Evan Sidery (@esidery)
The Hawks are shopping Clint Capela on the trade market, per @KevinOConnorNBA (https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/6/24/24184660/nba-draft-2024-preview-trade-rumors-los-angeles-lakers).
Capela, on a $22.3 million expiring contract, averaged 11.5 points and 10.6 rebounds in 25.8 minutes per game this season.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
Evan Sidery (@esidery)
The Sixers’ interest in acquiring Zach LaVine has waned since Alex Caruso was traded, per @MikeAScotto (https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-2024-nba-mock-draft-paul-george-tyrese-maxey-free-agency-zach-lavine-trade-talks/).
Philadelphia would’ve been more open to taking on LaVine’s contract if Caruso was also included in the deal.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Checked on Jerami Grant?| NYK+WAS Discussed Robinson - Jason Terry - 06-24-2024
Ray
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Mavericks GM Nico Harrison said Olivier-Maxence Prosper has grown 3 inches since being drafted.
Prosper now stands 6’11” with a 7’1” wingspan.
Dallas’s 2023 No. 24 overall pick has a tantalizing two-way upside.
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Any truth to this tweet?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Checked on Jerami Grant?| NYK+WAS Discussed Robinson - mvossman - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:41 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: As the resident #1 Fan of Thybulle, I am certain Thybulle is a better fit than Green. Solely because of how game changing his defense is. Offensively he's a bit worse, but he's largely similar to Green in that he only takes wide open 3s and he spots up 95% of the time.
But defensively he is a guy who can guard Shai/Brown/Tatum and we can feel good about it. I posted some clips yesterday of Thybulle locking down Shai and J-Dub. He's a beast.
I am tending to lean this way as well. The argument for Green is that he is only 23 and potentially not a finished product. But right now I think Thybulle would have a more positive impact on the court due to elite defense and tolerable shooting.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - Mavs2021 - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:47 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: All Things Mavs (@All_Things_Mavs)
Dallas is one of multiple teams showing interest in Landry Shamet, per @MikeAScotto in the article below.
Shamet had a down season with the Wizards last year, but he might be a solid buy-low option for the Mavs as a shooter off the bench.
Find a shooter on a apron eligible team whose contract is within the legal limits of THJ (should be $8.7M I think) and we are interested. Shamet at 11.0 obviously fits that description.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Checked on Jerami Grant?| NYK+WAS Discussed Robinson - BigDirk41 - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:51 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Ray
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Mavericks GM Nico Harrison said Olivier-Maxence Prosper has grown 3 inches since being drafted.
Prosper now stands 6’11” with a 7’1” wingspan.
Dallas’s 2023 No. 24 overall pick has a tantalizing two-way upside.
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Any truth to this tweet?
No clue, but he didn't look 6'11" when he played in the finals.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - mvossman - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:54 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Find a shooter on a apron eligible team whose contract is within the legal limits of THJ (should be $8.7M I think) and we are interested. Shamet at 11.0 obviously fits that description.
Given Shamet is a better contract than Timmy, that would require an asset (probably similar to Timmy dump). I would much rather have DJJ.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: Mavs Checked on Jerami Grant?| NYK+WAS Discussed Robinson - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:51 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Ray
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Mavericks GM Nico Harrison said Olivier-Maxence Prosper has grown 3 inches since being drafted.
Prosper now stands 6’11” with a 7’1” wingspan.
Dallas’s 2023 No. 24 overall pick has a tantalizing two-way upside.
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Any truth to this tweet?
Zero truth to it.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Washington Wizards are the favorites to win the Tim Hardaway Jr. sweepstakes, per @BovadaOfficial
Washington Wizards +225
Atlanta Hawks +240
Detroit Pistons +325
LA Lakers +700
Portland Trail Blazers +700
Brooklyn Nets +700
Milwaukee Bucks +950
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - SleepingHero - 06-24-2024
Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops)
Brian Windhorst says the Paul George situation could escalate quickly:
“He could opt-in and get traded by this weekend. That is something that is going to come to a head in the next day or two.”
(via @GetUpESPN)
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - Jason Terry - 06-24-2024
Grant, Kuzma, Ingram. I’m out on all these players. I mostly like their game and I’ve always liked their fit. I’m out on the person, not the player
I think all three of these guys are selfish and dangerous to add to the good thing we have going on. All it takes is one me-first player to ruin team dynamics. Just look at Wood, KP and Grant Williams
I think Nico has learned and is mindful of the character of whomever we bring in at this point
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - dirkfansince1998 - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:11 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Washington Wizards are the favorites to win the Tim Hardaway Jr. sweepstakes, per @BovadaOfficial
Washington Wizards +225
Atlanta Hawks +240
Detroit Pistons +325
LA Lakers +700
Portland Trail Blazers +700
Brooklyn Nets +700
Milwaukee Bucks +950
"sweepstakes"
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:13 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Grant, Kuzma, Ingram. I’m out on all these players. I mostly like their game and I’ve always liked their fit. I’m out on the person, not the player
I think all three of these guys are selfish and dangerous to add to the good thing we have going on. All it takes is one me-first player to ruin team dynamics. Just look at Wood, KP and Grant Williams
I think Nico has learned and is mindful of the character of whomever we bring in at this point
I don't think it's fair to paint Grant and Ingram with the Kuzma brush, personally, but I agree with your assertion that the quality of PERSON matters.
I actually don't think Ingram is a fit on the court, or I'd have brought him up a while ago. Team USA taught us he can't play off-ball (like, not even a little bit) so he's one of the very last players I'd want to put next to Luka and Kyrie. Heck, that's why New Orleans is trying to move him in the first place.
I think Grant is getting a slightly raw deal, rep wise, but at this point I trust the Dallas front office with things like that. If they go get him, I'll assume he's ready to be here and play the role they have in mind. If they don't, no biggie.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:11 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Washington Wizards are the favorites to win the Tim Hardaway Jr. sweepstakes, per @BovadaOfficial
Washington Wizards +225
Atlanta Hawks +240
Detroit Pistons +325
LA Lakers +700
Portland Trail Blazers +700
Brooklyn Nets +700
Milwaukee Bucks +950
This is kind of alarming to me, personally. Looking at the Washington salaries, I could make an argument that Advija might be the guy they're least likely to want to move at this time. He's the only player to whom they've made any real long term commitment. If not him...
Shamet? I don't really know if Washington can absorb the difference in THJ's salary, rules wise, but if that's possible the Mavs gain some money there, which is good. But, he's a pretty "meh" guy to me, and the contract lasts two more years. This would be underwhelming for me, personally.
From there, the possibilities get much scarier. Kuzma has been discussed to death, and none of us on either side are changing our minds anytime soon. I would puke for a week straight and then have to do some soul searching about whether I even wanted to continue with the Mavs during my free time, but sadly, he's not even the worst possibility.
Surely, the Mavs aren't dumb enough to have any interest in Jordan Poole, right? RIGHT???!!
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - omahen - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 10:47 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: All Things Mavs (@All_Things_Mavs)
Dallas is one of multiple teams showing interest in Landry Shamet, per @MikeAScotto in the article below.
Shamet had a down season with the Wizards last year, but he might be a solid buy-low option for the Mavs as a shooter off the bench.
This makes very little sense. Shamet is not a buy low candidate. Shamet is a "pay me something to take his contract" candidate. He is basically a worse version of THJ being way overpaid at MLE level for next two seasons. I just don't see how taking his contract would help solve the DJJ situation. Green+THJ for Shamet with no assets attached on either side?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - Smitty - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:34 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Surely, the Mavs aren't dumb enough to have any interest in Jordan Poole, right? RIGHT???!!
Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - Mavs2021 - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:01 AM)mvossman Wrote: Given Shamet is a better contract than Timmy, that would require an asset (probably similar to Timmy dump). I would much rather have DJJ.
I think the preferred angle the Mavs are actively working are two separate trades (involving THJ/Kleber/Powell) that generate a total of 10M in additional capspace to re-sign DJJ while minimizing the required assets. Another is probably THJ/Kleber/Powell for a relative top player like a Grant/Simons etc. and then to recuperate part of the assets lost by dropping Green into space to re-sign DJJ. Last option is probably just to stretch-waive THJ and re-sign DJJ.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
(06-24-2024, 11:35 AM)omahen Wrote: This makes very little sense. Shamet is not a buy low candidate. Shamet is a "pay me something to take his contract" candidate. He is basically a worse version of THJ being way overpaid at MLE level for next two seasons. I just don't see how taking his contract would help solve the DJJ situation. Green+THJ for Shamet with no assets attached on either side?
If that deal is possible, I'd have to assume there'd be some draft capital coming back to Dallas. I mean, I know Dallas is out there with the goal of lowering payroll, but they'd also be doing Washington a favor by taking the extra years of Shamet. I don't get this, either. Hopefully, they're discussing Shamet as some sort of possible add on to an Advija deal.
One thing I'm really starting to buy: I don't think Jones is going to require the full MLE. The rumors (if any of them are even true) seem to point to the idea that Dallas is operating as if it has a path figured out for DJJ already, and it doesn't seem to require Hardaway's contract.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - omahen - 06-24-2024
Is there a deal for a lower salary guy (player X) where THJ for player X doesn't work but Shamet for player X works? A deal where enough space would be created to resign DJJ afterwards?
Edit: of course assets are added from Mavs side in the Shamet for player X part
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: ATL Fire Sale? NOP Wants Young? DAL Likes Shamet? - KillerLeft - 06-24-2024
I'd much rather just put Hardy out there in a consistent role and find out if he's ready than to make him compete with Shamet. I wouldn't feel that way about some of the guys we've discussed, like Bogdanovic, for example, but Shamet just doesn't do anything for me, "buy low" or not.