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RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - SleepingHero - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:29 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Bulkier than DJJ. Looking at the matchup data he is more of a true SF on defense. Good defender but not providing the same kind of POA defense that earned DJJ his starting spot.
This screams to me that Nico really thinks Grimes is our new premier POA defender. When he was with NYK, he always guarded the best opposing player. 99th percentile in terms of matchup difficulty.
But he was too inconsistent shooting to get proper minutes.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Jym - 06-30-2024
I wonder if that agent change is going to mess up DJJ's payday
who is going to be left to throw 12 million at him in 2 weeks?
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Scott41theMavs - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:31 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: 2 thoughts:
1) this is reading to me like the Mavs don’t want to wait around for DJJ to be able to negotiate, not that they know he’s leaving.
2) but also, I bet they know this offer is lower than what he was going to want, and would’ve required a hard sell. In other words, they really are prioritizing giving Thompson too much money over bringing back their best defender.
I’m pretty bummed.
I do like Marshall, however. More offensively skilled than Jones, for sure. People who think they’re similar defensively…I don’t think so.
To what current Mavs player would Marshall be quantitatively comparable on defense?
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Scott41theMavs - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This screams to me that Nico really thinks Grimes is our new premier POA defender. When he was with NYK, he always guarded the best opposing player. 99th percentile in terms of matchup difficulty.
But he was too inconsistent shooting to get proper minutes.
But he's not a starter. Unless the Mavs were to "thematically" (intentionally) make Luka the SF.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - KillerLeft - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This screams to me that Nico really thinks Grimes is our new premier POA defender. When he was with NYK, he always guarded the best opposing player. 99th percentile in terms of matchup difficulty.
But he was too inconsistent shooting to get proper minutes.
It screams to me that Harrison (or someone over there) sees value in “winning” a bidding war for Klay Thompson.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:35 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: But he's not a starter. Unless the Mavs were to "thematically" (intentionally) make Luka the SF.
Right now, I'd much rather start Grimes than Naji and make Luka the SF/PF on defense.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - SleepingHero - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:35 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: But he's not a starter. Unless the Mavs were to "thematically" (intentionally) make Luka the SF.
Grimes COULD be a starter. He started 66 games under Thibs and played 30 mins a game. That doesn't happen unless you are a good defender.
Grimes is also 6'5 205lbs compared to DJJ 6'5 210lbs.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-30-2024
^ THat's the silver lining for me. Bigger role for Quentin Grimes.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - KillerLeft - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: To what current Mavs player would Marshall be quantitatively comparable on defense?
Between Jones and PJ, matchup wise? Not as good as either?
He can handle the ball. That’s something people will like.
Everything they’ve done so far has been done with improving the offense in mind.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - SleepingHero - 06-30-2024
https://x.com/mavs_ffl/status/1807596677022486936?s=46&t=jsedX7SNHSvwTZots4zt0A
video of Marshall locking up SGA
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - dirkfansince1998 - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: To what current Mavs player would Marshall be quantitatively comparable on defense?
Body type is more PJ. But he isn't as explosive and a little bit lighter.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Smitty - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:32 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:
![[Image: 1807602620426555613_0.jpg?ex=66836663&is...ormat=webp]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/784811934146232352/1257161503686131763/1807602620426555613_0.jpg?ex=66836663&is=668214e3&hm=6925098e03ac999ebd2544bd13a5ff8ea14f12e90552c05a9aff9bf25b2df7b0&=&format=webp)
DJJ at $12.9M+. Probably 4/$55M+ deal
OR
Naji at $8.5M. 3/$27M.
I think it’s an easy choice but I hate losing DJJ.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Smitty - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This screams to me that Nico really thinks Grimes is our new premier POA defender. When he was with NYK, he always guarded the best opposing player. 99th percentile in terms of matchup difficulty.
But he was too inconsistent shooting to get proper minutes.
The best version of Grimes is the perfect starter next to LuKai. Lot to prove.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - RoyTarpleysGhost - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:39 PM)Smitty Wrote: DJJ at $12.9M+. Probably 4/$55M+ deal
OR
Naji at $8.5M. 3/$27M.
I think it’s an easy choice but I hate losing DJJ.
Lol some serious copium being passed around. Naji Marshall played 19mpg for the shitty Pelicans. DJJ started for a NBA Finals team.
easy choice
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Kidnova - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Nick Angstadt (@NickVanExit)
3-Point Shooting in the 2 years before joining Dallas
Derrick Jones Jr.
47/141 attempts
33.3%
Naji Marshall
124/368 attempts
33.7%
We seem to forget that DJJ was buried in the bench and signed a 1 year min deal before getting run next to Luka and Kyrie. I'm actually not that surprised that he may walk when I heard he signed with Lebron's agency. He wants top dollar and I'm excited to see what Marshall will do with these open shots he's about to get.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Smitty - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:40 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Lol some serious copium being passed around. Naji Marshall played 19mpg for the shitty Pelicans. DJJ started for a NBA Finals team.
easy choice
Not copium. My opinion of DJJ has been very consistent.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Deebo - 06-30-2024
Y’all crying about jones jr????? Crazy talk. Keep making moves Nico. Get me Spencer back!!!!
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - LukaMVP - 06-30-2024
maybe we can resign DJJ in two weeks on another minimum deal when/if he fails to attract any team satisfying him with the money he wants. at least playing one more year in Dallas will grant him early bird rights, but he would have to face the competition with Marshall and omax.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - Deebo - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:46 PM)LukaMVP Wrote: maybe we can resign DJJ in two weeks on another minimum deal when/if he fails to attract any team satisfying him with the money he wants. at least playing one more year in Dallas will grant him early bird rights, but he would have to face the competition with Marshall and omax.
He’s not needed. We need backup pg and pf/center. No more wings.
RE: FA: Naji Marshall To DAL | 3yrs/27mil - KillerLeft - 06-30-2024
(06-30-2024, 09:46 PM)Deebo Wrote: Y’all crying about jones jr????? Crazy talk. Keep making moves Nico. Get me Spencer back!!!!
Yes, some of us enjoyed having a top level defense and being more athletic than opponents.