(02-13-2025, 01:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Counterpoint: KD habitually contradicts "defense wins championships" tweets by replying "offensive wins championships."

(02-13-2025, 12:42 PM)mvossman Wrote: As for where [Grimes] goes, I will be curious.  My guess is its going to be for roughly the MLE and (assuming he doesn't stay) Philly is probably going to get an asset for him.

(02-13-2025, 01:32 PM)F Gump Wrote: I think PHI will either simply sign him to MLE or will end up with a choice to match or don't match an MLE. I think that would have been Mavs choice as well.

There's a very small chance of a SNT from a team without an MLE, but in the hard cap world, that almost certainly means PHI takes back MORE than MLE salary. Way more likely to see him simply sign with someone.

There's a gamble he won't get an MLE offer from anyone, and he can be retained for less, but obviously it wasn't one the Mavs were willing to take.

(02-13-2025, 01:38 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: My problem is the cost the Mavs paid to get out of that gamble...
I think I would rather have No Grimes and the Philly 2nd rather than Martin.
The criminal aspect of this is that there was a 2nd chance to get the pick back and instead we got a less valuable pick and confirmation that Martin is the less healthy player.

(02-13-2025, 09:54 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The Suns are currently the 11th seed in the Western Conference at 26-28.

Phoenix has the second-highest payroll for any American sports team at $408.9 million.

Unless the Suns pull off a miracle, this will go down as one of the most failed super team attempts in NBA history.

(02-13-2025, 09:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Doesn't seem like a realistic possibility to me.  Even getting up to someone like Markkanen's level takes out a good bit of the depth. Given the age of our stars and what is happening right now, I suspect they will continue to prioritize depth.

For better or worse, I think they build around Kyrie/AD/Klay for now.  To me, the tea leaves say Lively and Christie are key components.  If you think D wins championships, you probably keep PJ (plus he swings nicely between starting SF and takes the non-AD minutes at PF).  If you think AD is a four, you keep both centers. I get that you have decisions to make on PJ and Gafford, but there is too much sunk cost there to not retain them. 

So, if we want to design trades, the better use of time IMHO is probably to eliminate the top seven...Kyrie, AD, Klay, Christie, Lively, PJ and Gafford (and maybe Marshall too) and work with what's left.

(02-13-2025, 09:46 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:  
Ugh. Maybe I’m just beating a dead horse over and over. Y’all let me know if I’m overdoing it. I’m still grieving.

(02-13-2025, 04:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Thanks for having the self awareness to even ask the question.  It is going to take some work on all of our parts to keep this board a place of intelligent conversation.  We know from the C Wood and Brunson conversations of years past how easy it is to snipe at the 'misinformed' or beat our chests anytime something happens that 'proves' our well established positions.  And this SOOOO much bigger than those situations.  

Hopefully we are all trying to read the room and understand that people are going to be hurting for some time to come.  Hopefully those still hurting will be tolerant of those who have moved on and want to talk about something other than how dumb Nico is.

(02-13-2025, 05:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Lol, for sure. 

Heck, I've got 1,000 words on Brunson loaded in the chamber 24/7 still, to this day.

(02-13-2025, 04:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Thanks for having the self awareness to even ask the question.  It is going to take some work on all of our parts to keep this board a place of intelligent conversation.  We know from the C Wood and Brunson conversations of years past how easy it is to snipe at the 'misinformed' or beat our chests anytime something happens that 'proves' our well established positions.  And this SOOOO much bigger than those situations.  

Hopefully we are all trying to read the room and understand that people are going to be hurting for some time to come.  Hopefully those still hurting will be tolerant of those who have moved on and want to talk about something other than how dumb Nico is.

(02-13-2025, 05:15 PM)mvossman Wrote: Legit question.  Which was a bigger hit asset wise, losing Brunson for nothing or the Luka trade?  The Luka trade was clearly the biggest emotional gut punch (partly because there was no warning) but you could make the argument that not extending Brunson was a bigger loss from an asset standpoint.

(02-13-2025, 05:32 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Man, I really wish Exum would have worked out.  His body just take nba basketball.  Maybe he can stay healthy for the rest of the year.  You just can’t count on him.  So I don’t think you can bring him back.  I also don’t think I would bring back Dinwiddie for a regular rotation role.  So I was thinking what do you think happens with Fred VanFleet this summer?  He has a team option for over 40 million.  Does Houston pick up?  If not, what is market value?

(02-13-2025, 06:05 PM)LukaMVP Wrote: Houston will have to either pick up his team option of 40 million or let him walk imho. while he's still a good player, 40m/yr is probably too much for him tbh.

(02-13-2025, 06:41 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheMavsBlog
Per @TheSteinLine

The Dallas - KD conversations were “overstated”.

(02-13-2025, 06:41 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheMavsBlog
Per @TheSteinLine

The Dallas - KD conversations were “overstated”.