(02-13-2025, 09:02 AM)Smitty Wrote: Ahh. You're right. "Uses an outgoing player (or multiple players) in a trade for matching purposes to take back more than 100% of the outgoing salary."

It'd have to be Klay instead of Hardy then.

Klay, PJ, Gafford, Martin: $54,799,205
Durant: $54,708,609

(02-13-2025, 09:28 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Doesn't seem like a realistic possibility to me.  Even getting up to someone like Markkanen's level takes out a good bit of the depth. Given the age of our stars and what is happening right now, I suspect they will continue to prioritize depth.

For better or worse, I think they build around Kyrie/AD/Klay for now.  To me, the tea leaves say Lively and Christie are key components.  If you think D wins championships, you probably keep PJ (plus he swings nicely between starting SF and takes the non-AD minutes at PF).  If you think AD is a four, you keep both centers. I get that you have decisions to make on PJ and Gafford, but there is too much sunk cost there to not retain them. 

So, if we want to design trades, the better use of time IMHO is probably to eliminate the top seven...Kyrie, AD, Klay, Christie, Lively, PJ and Gafford (and maybe Marshall too) and work with what's left.

(02-13-2025, 09:54 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The Suns are currently the 11th seed in the Western Conference at 26-28.

Phoenix has the second-highest payroll for any American sports team at $408.9 million.

Unless the Suns pull off a miracle, this will go down as one of the most failed super team attempts in NBA history.

(02-13-2025, 10:26 AM)WildArkieBoy Wrote: this is not the right thread, but it's pretty obvious Kidd was not playing Grimes up to his potential

(02-13-2025, 10:26 AM)WildArkieBoy Wrote: this is not the right thread, but it's pretty obvious Kidd was not playing Grimes up to his potential

(02-13-2025, 11:24 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Yes!

Exactly the same as Christian Wood and Grant Williams!

(02-13-2025, 11:31 AM)mvossman Wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Grimes is not the same as those guys.

(02-13-2025, 11:31 AM)mvossman Wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Grimes is not the same as those guys.

(02-13-2025, 12:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: idk...in terms of fit he seemed better than either, but apparently not to Kidd. In terms of having an established NBA career, I'd say he's still ahead of Wood but trailing Williams by a considerable margin. 

I'm honestly interested to see where he lands this summer, and for how much.

(02-13-2025, 12:20 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: I thought I read somewhere that his agent actually pushed for the trade after the Luka trade because he felt that Grimes was going to be getting less minutes with Christie incoming.

(02-13-2025, 01:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: I have no interest in the KD trade as proposed (Klay, PJ, Gaff, Martin, and all our picks). I think it's way too much talent and way too many picks, with his advanced age AND his massive salary.

(02-13-2025, 01:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: I have no interest in the KD trade as proposed (Klay, PJ, Gaff, Martin, and all our picks). I think it's way too much talent and way too many picks, with his advanced age AND his massive salary.

(02-13-2025, 01:07 PM)Smitty Wrote: Just to clarify my stance on the matter. This KD thing is NOT what I want to happen. It's what I think Nico's plan will be. I agree with everyone on the board that this is a terrible path but keep reminding people that we're dealing with a man that just traded Luka in the dark of the night. Prepare yourselves!

(02-13-2025, 01:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Counterpoint: KD habitually contradicts "defense wins championships" tweets by replying "offensive wins championships."