(11-21-2023, 09:28 PM)The Jom Wrote: I dunno man. I usually love your posts. But the only way you can sell high on Hardaway is if you actually sell when he’s high.

(11-21-2023, 06:07 PM)youzigizag Wrote: I dont want to get banned...Im not trying to be negative...

But I tooted this horn on my last username(IM THANKFUL TO STILL BE ABLE TO VIEW AND POST)...

(11-21-2023, 06:07 PM)youzigizag Wrote: I dont want to get banned...Im not trying to be negative...

But I tooted this horn on my last username(IM THANKFUL TO STILL BE ABLE TO VIEW AND POST)...

But I started following when Rick was coach but the same theme still seems stand....

THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON IS ABOUT EXPERIMENTATION AND FIGURING THINGS OUT.   Can we at least approach convos with this in mind.

Kidd...maybe even Rick...made bad rotation decisions with games or playoff games on the line...but its pretty obvious that until about 60% of season is over the Mavs dont start playing rotations the way the board would prefer them.  Even then its suspect.   But we have to wait.  It might fly in the face of being able to determine who should be on the block at TDL...but it seems thats the way it is.

We are still in experimentation/coach-do-what-he-want phase.

There is still probably good data from that...but we arent getting solid 7 man rotation vs other teams 7 man rotation data anytime soon.  At least 7 vs 7 and both teams are trying hard.

(11-21-2023, 06:07 PM)youzigizag Wrote: I dont want to get banned...Im not trying to be negative...

But I tooted this horn on my last username(IM THANKFUL TO STILL BE ABLE TO VIEW AND POST)...

But I started following when Rick was coach but the same theme still seems stand....

THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON IS ABOUT EXPERIMENTATION AND FIGURING THINGS OUT.   Can we at least approach convos with this in mind.

Kidd...maybe even Rick...made bad rotation decisions with games or playoff games on the line...but its pretty obvious that until about 60% of season is over the Mavs dont start playing rotations the way the board would prefer them.  Even then its suspect.   But we have to wait.  It might fly in the face of being able to determine who should be on the block at TDL...but it seems thats the way it is.

We are still in experimentation/coach-do-what-he-want phase.

There is still probably good data from that...but we arent getting solid 7 man rotation vs other teams 7 man rotation data anytime soon.  At least 7 vs 7 and both teams are trying hard.

(11-22-2023, 06:54 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: If criticizing our coach resulted in a ban from this message board, this message board would be desolate.  I think there may be two posters who think Jason Kidd is a good coach.

(11-22-2023, 04:54 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Did you mean to reply to me here? Because my point was NOT to sell Hardaway. Am I misunderstanding your point?

(11-23-2023, 03:03 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:

(11-23-2023, 05:46 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: That made me laugh.  However,...

Kyrie has been great here.  He's the 2nd-superstar we've been trying to find since we drafted Luka.  He's the rare brilliant offensive player who is willing to defer to our high-usage superstar.  He's actually working hard on defense.  He is really fun to watch.

I think we should all be grateful to have Kyrie Irving on this team.  We also acquired him at a huge discount.  Our team has a lot of issues but Kyrie isn't one of them right now.  Let's wait until he does something bad before we complain about him.

(11-23-2023, 08:49 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: am i missing something? I thought SH was just saying that Kyrie is clutch

(11-23-2023, 01:48 AM)The Jom Wrote: Yep. My point is that selling now would be selling high. If they hold onto him because he’s playing/shooting so well, it’s probably gonna be too late, no?

(11-23-2023, 08:36 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: People can think what they want about Kyrie. I understand. But when he’s engaged, his teams win a hell of a lot of games. He’s not some individual stat monster. He wins. His play is elite in big moments.

(11-23-2023, 11:43 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Why sell him at all, if they’re trying to win now? He really might be the 6th man of the year. I am not in the camp that he’s easily replaceable.

I couldn’t care less about “selling high” on him. His biggest value is going to be his small-medium sized contract expiring next year.

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(11-23-2023, 12:15 PM)omahen Wrote: At least on this board there are very few that think that Mavs can win now with this team. So why not increase the asset base with someone that is not a great fit going forward? THJ has been very good offensively, but offense never really was a problem. Mavs desperately need better defenders next to Luka/Kyrie duo.

It is true that it will be easier to move his expiring deal. But the idea discussed here is - would it make sense to cash in for THJ for a similar size (and duration) contract and assets(s). For eaxample Orlando and Isaac. Mavs would still have expiring contract to deal in the summer and another pick in the chest. I don't think they would be any worse dealing THJ even as good as he was so far. Even if they lose a couple of games because of that, so what. Its about long term, not about having a couple of more wins this season.

I am not saying I would actively shop him. But, if teams are calling and have interest, I would listen.

(11-23-2023, 12:15 PM)omahen Wrote: At least on this board there are very few that think that Mavs can win now with this team. So why not increase the asset base with someone that is not a great fit going forward? THJ has been very good offensively, but offense never really was a problem. Mavs desperately need better defenders next to Luka/Kyrie duo.

It is true that it will be easier to move his expiring deal. But the idea discussed here is - would it make sense to cash in for THJ for a similar size (and duration) contract and assets(s). For eaxample Orlando and Isaac. Mavs would still have expiring contract to deal in the summer and another pick in the chest. I don't think they would be any worse dealing THJ even as good as he was so far. Even if they lose a couple of games because of that, so what. Its about long term, not about having a couple of more wins this season.

I am not saying I would actively shop him. But, if teams are calling and have interest, I would listen.

(11-23-2023, 12:20 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: The longer they go without popping my impression bubble of them, the more I think they can make some noise this year. I admit it still feels strange even to think of them contending, but so far, so good.

Ultimately, I agree - trade him if the deal is right. I’m just saying, he’s holding up his end and THEN SOME, as far as I’m concerned. In no way am I interested in removing him just to remove him, which is an attitude that still prevails around here for whatever reason.

(11-23-2023, 12:23 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I think they can win now.  History has shown that a team can get hot at the right moments, catch an opponent during a significant injury, or just end up with a favorable matchup.  

Dallas has enough offensive firepower to win a game against any opponent, when they're hitting.