(11-09-2023, 12:05 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Doesn’t help the interior for the perimeter defense to be as weak as it is. I mean, sure, all of it sucks and we need better personnel, but this is the pot calling the kettle black if I’ve ever heard it.

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And that is not me standing up for our interior defenders.

(11-09-2023, 12:57 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Yeah. The roster breakdown is very simple. Nobody above 6´6 has any vertical lift (left) except DJJ and maybe Lively. I´m not even sure Lively is much of a leaper, he´s just 7´2 with long arms, while everybody else is in our front court is 6´11 at best, on a good day. Even prime Holmes only averaged 8.3 RPG as a career best. So our guys are neither tall, nor jump very high.

Mavs should have gone after some of the World Championship standouts that would have cost NOTHING and had strong-ish club seasons.

Bruno averaged 16/8 with 2 blocks for the German champions before finishing 3rd in RPG, 17th in BPG, 23rd SPG, 23rd PPG and 9th in EFF Rtg at the World Championships.

Wenyen Gabriel  had a nice season with the Lakers before playing a nice World Championships for South Sudan, where he finished #1 in BPG, #22 in RPG. He actually got waived by the Celtics recently. While he has his limitations, he´s at least an energy big who is really fast and running the floor hard with some vertical. He´d certainly gives us a dimension in the frontcourt we currrently don´t have.

He´s the free agent I´d look at. Otherwise it has to be a trade.

(11-09-2023, 01:29 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: If Holmes can’t play or if they think he can’t play, mavs need to look at a move.  You can’t expect Lively to be your main cog for 82 games as a 19 year old.

They looked at Drummond this summer.  He could probably had for a second round pick.  Could be a short term option.  Bamba?  Mavs need to be on the lookout for someone who at least can be insurance.

In my ideal scenario we develop a younger center.  There will be several in the next draft who are probably second rounders.  But I hope we find a wing with length where Grant can fill in some minutes as a small ball 5.  We are just too small right now for that to work.

(11-09-2023, 08:11 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I found it pretty interesting that Kidd was pretty adamant that OMAX is not going to the G-league.  Who knows if he is telling the truth.  If he continues to not get any time, it wouldn't hurt to send him to Frisco while the team is in town.  It was curious and made me wonder if they plan to get him some run when we get a little more into the season.

(11-09-2023, 12:57 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Yeah. The roster breakdown is very simple. Nobody above 6´6 has any vertical lift (left) except DJJ and maybe Lively. I´m not even sure Lively is much of a leaper, he´s just 7´2 with long arms, while everybody else is in our front court is 6´11 at best, on a good day. Even prime Holmes only averaged 8.3 RPG as a career best. So our guys are neither tall, nor jump very high.

Mavs should have gone after some of the World Championship standouts that would have cost NOTHING and had strong-ish club seasons.

Bruno averaged 16/8 with 2 blocks for the German champions before finishing 3rd in RPG, 17th in BPG, 23rd SPG, 23rd PPG and 9th in EFF Rtg at the World Championships.

Wenyen Gabriel  had a nice season with the Lakers before playing a nice World Championships for South Sudan, where he finished #1 in BPG, #22 in RPG. He actually got waived by the Celtics recently. While he has his limitations, he´s at least an energy big who is really fast and running the floor hard with some vertical. He´d certainly gives us a dimension in the frontcourt we currrently don´t have.

He´s the free agent I´d look at. Otherwise it has to be a trade.

(11-09-2023, 08:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I mean, the same folks who swore Lively was a wasted pick because he couldn't play for up to three years (lol) are now stating that O-Max won't contribute this year as if it's an obvious fact. I would think we'd be a little more humble about our understanding of that at this point, but I guess not. 

Point being: for all we know, O-Max could be ensconced in the rotation by Christmas.

(11-09-2023, 03:16 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Raptors game not included (don't think it changes anything) the Mavs rank dead last in miles per game. Is it the scheme? Are they lazy? Too many low motor guys?

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/speed-distance

(11-09-2023, 08:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I mean, the same folks who swore Lively was a wasted pick because he couldn't play for up to three years (lol) are now stating that O-Max won't contribute this year as if it's an obvious fact. I would think we'd be a little more humble about our understanding of that at this point, but I guess not. 

Point being: for all we know, O-Max could be ensconced in the rotation by Christmas.

(11-09-2023, 10:46 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Huh?  All analysis on Lively changed in the preseason when he was up against NBA starters.  The kid just has one of those games that's made for the NBA, but you can't completely see that until they play against NBA competition.  Hence, there are lottery busts.

OMax can't yet shoot, dribble, pass, or play at NBA speed yet.  He looked like a demon in the Summer League, then looked completely lost in the preseason.  He needs to start every Legends game as a point forward so he can develop his dribbling, passing, and game speed in-game.  Shooting is developed in the gym, then solidified in the games.  I'm still high on OMax, but he has a long way to go.

(11-10-2023, 03:18 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: I've been saying this all along. This OMax hype needs to stop. And Kidd knows that as well. That's why he hasn't played even in garbage time that I've seen. He looks like a project to me. Every game I've seen him in, he has the confused deer in the headlights look on the floor. Green was the same to me when he first got drafted. He has outstanding defensive metrics and athleticism, but is a reluctant shooter and scorer. If both turn the corner, it would be great for the team, but I don't see it right now. Sorry...

(11-10-2023, 04:43 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: This team is too small, and they had to of known that going into the season. We are relying on a 19 year old rookie to save us and that will end bad.

They need to make a trade immediately or this season will go down in the dumps. Teams will continue to bully and punish us inside.

Maxi is toast. Powell is still too soft. Holmes has nothing left. Why is Curry here? Why is the bad Morris twin here?

This front office struggles so hard to build a normal NBA roster.  Its comical.

(11-10-2023, 04:43 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: This team is too small, and they had to of known that going into the season. We are relying on a 19 year old rookie to save us and that will end bad.

They need to make a trade immediately or this season will go down in the dumps. Teams will continue to bully and punish us inside.

Maxi is toast. Powell is still too soft. Holmes has nothing left. Why is Curry here? Why is the bad Morris twin here?

This front office struggles so hard to build a normal NBA roster.  Its comical.

(11-10-2023, 07:46 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am putting a lot what I saw in the last preseason game and he looked a little lost.   There were a few things he did that showed he wasn't ready.  But I would caution saying he will not break into the roster this year.  I went back and watched his college highlights and summer league highlights.   How he plays should be an easier transition to the NBA than some guy who is being asked to run a team.  He would probably be a better fit playing with Kyrie than Luka at this stage.  Kyrie allows a more free flowing offense.   So maybe you begin him there to give him some run?  

On a different matter, I wonder what Dallas does with Green.  I think there is a legit case that Green is a bench player and not a starter.  Jones Jr has been solid as token 5th starter, and Green has been shaky (for the most part).  Jones in all likelihood is a one year placeholder (if that).  Green is someone the team hopes to be here moving forward.  If Green keeps on having the 3 pt, 6 pt, games, I wonder if they see if starting him helps?   He appeared to play better in preseason when he started.   This team is much better positioned  moving if they can find a role where Green is scoring 10 plus points a game imo.

(11-10-2023, 08:30 AM)omahen Wrote: The role in Luka led offense should be even simpler in theory. His job could simply be limited to stand in the corner and shoot an open three if the opportunity happens. Can't think of an easier role for a guy to start. Than you build from there giving him more freedom on offense.

(11-10-2023, 08:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Maybe you are right.  I just feel to play with Luka you need to be in the right spot at the right time.  If you are not, he typically has a short fuse with this type of player.  He likes to have everything spread out where he can make the correct read.   OMAX is best as a guy who moves around and floats at this stage in his development.

(11-10-2023, 07:46 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am putting a lot what I saw in the last preseason game and he looked a little lost.   There were a few things he did that showed he wasn't ready.  But I would caution saying he will not break into the roster this year.  I went back and watched his college highlights and summer league highlights.   How he plays should be an easier transition to the NBA than some guy who is being asked to run a team.  He would probably be a better fit playing with Kyrie than Luka at this stage.  Kyrie allows a more free flowing offense.   So maybe you begin him there to give him some run?  

On a different matter, I wonder what Dallas does with Green.  I think there is a legit case that Green is a bench player and not a starter.  Jones Jr has been solid as token 5th starter, and Green has been shaky (for the most part).  Jones in all likelihood is a one year placeholder (if that).  Green is someone the team hopes to be here moving forward.  If Green keeps on having the 3 pt, 6 pt, games, I wonder if they see if starting him helps?   He appeared to play better in preseason when he started.   This team is much better positioned  moving if they can find a role where Green is scoring 10 plus points a game imo.

(11-10-2023, 08:01 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Right. At 6-2, the team is a dumpster fire and doomed to last place in the West. And every other team is Perfectly Constructed, has really smart coaches and front offices. 

It’s like bringing a knife to a gunfight. Poor Mavs.