(06-23-2024, 04:52 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: If the Mavs get Avdija, I'd want to add a little more shooting to this bench you have listed; at the guard spot. One of Quentin Grimes or Isaiah Joe.

I'm not sure how to go about getting one of those two though, i.e., in addition to Avdija. Do you have any ideas?

(06-23-2024, 10:09 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: If the Mavs are desperate for shooting they can probably get a THJ replacement on the vet min market. Or make a minor adjustment at the trade deadline. I think we have finally reached the point where vet min ring chasers view Dallas as a top tier destination.
Fournier or Kennard for example are just as good/bad as THJ (in my opinion better) and will most likely be available for cheap.

(06-23-2024, 10:26 AM)mvossman Wrote: I doubt Kennard will be that cheap.  He should get more than BAE (which puts him out of our market).  Fournier has had a Bullock like decline.  Not sure he will be in the league much longer and very skeptical he is somebody you want to put on the court.

(06-23-2024, 01:53 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think that when he left Denver, he wanted a shot to be “the man” on a team, as well as a shot for the wealth that comes with that. And, he ALMOST made it, doing well enough in that role as a piston to get Portland interested, and then well enough there to get this current crazy contract he has now. At this point, it’s pretty clear that he’s not quite good enough to play that type of role well enough to make a team good. I suppose there’s a chance he doesn’t care about that and will happily just jack up shots for a team that is constantly down by 12 points, hoping that he can get even another big payday when this contract runs out, but I have to think he knows better than that, unlike Kyle Kuzma.

I also think that the line between where he is and “good enough to be the second best player on a good team” is paper thin. I think if most people here were to watch him for about five straight games, they would come away from that experience with a much higher level of respect for the skills he brings on both ends of the floor. He is a great ball handler for his size, capable of running the offense for long stretches. He’s a little bit like prime Lamar Odom, with better shooting range, now that I think about it. Defensively, it’s very true that he has slacked off in recent years, but I really don’t think that is about ability, I think that’s about him being the go to guy on a bad team. I like the chances of him making a defensive impact here if he wants to come. 

I think he might be better suited to play the PJ role than the DJJ role, and that gives me a little pause, but honestly the only thing I really don’t like about him is his contract.

(06-23-2024, 04:52 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: If the Mavs get Avdija, I'd want to add a little more shooting to this bench you have listed; at the guard spot. One of Quentin Grimes or Isaiah Joe.

I'm not sure how to go about getting one of those two though, i.e., in addition to Avdija. Do you have any ideas?

(06-23-2024, 03:05 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Avdija is about as good as it gets in terms of contract size (less than 100% of outgoing THJ and similar money to PJ, but declining).  He plays plus D and on offense he’s a jack of many trades and while he’s kind of a master of none, he’s fairly good at almost everything (and still on a pretty good growth curve at only 23).

Lively, PJ, Avdija, Kyrie and Luka

Gafford, Maxi/Omax, DJJ, Hardy, Exum

(06-23-2024, 12:47 AM)F Gump Wrote: Ok. There were other names mentioned, and I got confused because I didn't go back to read it all again in order. I get it now. Sorry for the extra work, and thanks for your patience.

THJ+Green+Maxi   39.85
Grant-Thybulle      40.82

Yep, almost legal (will require 100% which takes another player), close enough.

(06-23-2024, 11:33 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-summer/

Not sure if it is a great ranking but it still shows the bigger picture. There are only 5-6 capspace teams. Maybe 5-10 teams with the full MLE. But there is a pretty long list of solid free agents and there is a good chance that if you aren't among the top 30-40 players on the list you aren't getting more than the vet min.

(06-23-2024, 12:07 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Wouldn't this deal be legal since its above the 29 million dollar threshold (I assume this happens in July) in total and be subjected to the 125% +250k rule? Since both teams will be below the 1st apron upon completion they wouldn't have to worry about 100% match. Mavs team roster $ would be 177,222,039 and can just waive Lawson to get down to $175,101,356

Or am I misunderstanding the rules?

(06-23-2024, 12:01 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm coming around on Advija, for sure. Do we have reason to believe he's available? 

(06-23-2024, 12:56 PM)mvossman Wrote: That list has Eric Gordon on it, who is lesser than Kinard in every facet and 35 vs 27.  If we are using articles to show the bigger picture, here is a counter example:

The Derrick White All-Stars: 10 Players Who Could Complete a Contender - The Ringer

If Luke Kennard can be had at the BAE or less, it would be a no brainer to sign him, even though I am skeptical Kidd will utilize him properly.

(06-23-2024, 01:37 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: We have to think on two planes.  One is legal versus the trade rules (as you’ve done here) and one is legal versus the apron rules.  That is the point FG is making in saying we need one more player added to the proposed deal.  We need to send out more salary than we take back or we are hard capped.

BTW, I’m listening to the latest Locked On driving home from a weekend in Fort Worth.  Nick doesn’t get this stuff AT ALL.  He needs to hire FG as a consultant or CBA Mavs or someone.