(07-28-2023, 11:38 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I Lively is RAW.

(07-28-2023, 11:38 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I think this for OMax, but not Lively.  Lively is RAW.

(07-28-2023, 06:33 PM)RDB Wrote: And young…and skinny.  He will likely always be on the skinnier side but he will develop an NBA ready body relatively quickly with NBA level training.  

To me, Lively still has a bit of that awkward teenager look of someone who has grown fast but his coordination hasn’t quite caught up.  Considering he is a 7’1”, 230 lb. teenager and only one season removed from high school basketball, that’s to be expected.  Personally, I think much of what looks like rawness on tape is really about developing into his body.

While I have cautioned against high expectations in year 1, I do believe he will play a significant role in year 2.  You can see the athleticism and he has good mentors in Chandler and Powell.  He just needs some time to develop into his body and learn the pro game.  Did I mention he is a 7’1”, 230 lb. teenager, 1 year removed from high school.  Kevin Durant would love to hang out by the pool with Lively.

(07-29-2023, 11:51 AM)MFFL Wrote: Grant Afseth
@GrantAfseth

Luka Doncic, when asked about the Dallas Mavericks at a press conference with the Slovenian national team.

"I'm not thinking about it yet, but Dallas is taking good steps."

https://twitter.com/GrantAfseth/status/1685306343727472641

(07-29-2023, 08:59 AM)mvossman Wrote: I saw an interesting stat somewhere regarding center size coming into the NBA.  Livey is actually one of the bulkier guys at his age.  Tyson Chandler for example, was much skinnier coming into NBA.

(07-30-2023, 08:15 AM)SamStetz Wrote: Marc Stein: I know there were some recent reports that Jaylen Nowell from Minnesota is a potential target. I was actually told the Mavericks are not really in that race at this point. So to this point, I would scratch Nowell as a target for the Mavericks, at least that was that’s what I was told yesterday.

Marc Stein: The Mavericks don’t want to be done. Maybe they are done with this roster because further moves are not available to them. They would love if the chance to make another trade run at Clint Capela from the Atlanta Hawks materializes to this point. That opportunity has not availed itself to the Mavericks. But will Atlanta move Capela elsewhere which creates an opportunity for Dallas to try to get in as a third team? Or would they trade him somewhere to a team that really only needs him for contract purposes, salary cap matching purposes in the trade and then that team makes Capela available? Would the Mavs love for that opportunity to be presented? Yes, they would. They did not at the draft. They were not willing to package number 10 and Josh Green to get Clint Capela, they deemed the price too high at that time, but the interest has not gone away.

(07-30-2023, 09:27 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Also, if they’re done, does that mean the conviction of McGee not being on the team this season was quite overblown?

(07-30-2023, 09:43 AM)loki Wrote: I hope so. No sense in waiving a guy on a 2 year contract or spending two 2nd rounders to dump him. McGee will be more useful as salary filler next offseason than as a dead cap hit.

(07-30-2023, 09:43 AM)loki Wrote: I hope so. No sense in waiving a guy on a 2 year contract or spending two 2nd rounders to dump him. McGee will be more useful as salary filler next offseason than as a dead cap hit.

(07-30-2023, 10:24 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I totally agree. The only reason I’ve added him in my trades is because of the constant reminder all offseason from Stein that he will not be on the roster this season. His inclusion really makes no sense in pretty much any trade this year.

(07-30-2023, 10:16 AM)mvossman Wrote: That depends on whether he was a locker room issue.  I don't know of him having a history of that, and the only noise I am aware of regarding last season was Luka giving the bench an occasional dirty look when McGee did something particularly stupid.  But it does seem strange they are so adamant to dump him.

(07-30-2023, 10:44 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think Stein was carrying a little water for the Mavs, that's all. Easy to see why the Mavs wanted rid of McGee, especially now that we know their limit is the tax line, not the 1st apron.

(07-30-2023, 10:54 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Good point. Now do we talk about the need to stay below the tax line? Apron 1 I understand fully why we would want to stay below, but the tax line is only a Mark payout issue. If that is any part of the reason we’re not making further trades, I might have to stop watching myself.

(07-30-2023, 10:54 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Good point. Now do we talk about the need to stay below the tax line? Apron 1 I understand fully why we would want to stay below, but the tax line is only a Mark payout issue. If that is any part of the reason we’re not making further trades, I might have to stop watching myself.

(07-30-2023, 11:11 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: It's pretty clear that's the goal, at least for this summer. Like always, the motivation can be explained by wanting to avoid paying tax in order to avoid repeater tax penalties and increasingly harsh disadvantages in the future, but to be honest, that's the reason that would be given to us even if the real reason was purely cheapness, so it's a legitimate question. 

I brought this up the other day and people spent about .05 seconds thinking about it before they dismissed it, but there's so much smoke from the ATL side regarding Josh Green. When you look as where the team is now, Green is important and I agree, not a player I'd move for Capela. However, I can't say that Capela isn't worth one young player like Green in a vacuum, and if we open our minds to the possibility that Cuban is thinking of ways to avoid the tax permanently, or at least as long as possible, then Green's impending free agency isn't the most convenient thing for them to work around. I have a sneaky suspicion that Green is not off the table in the right deal, now or at the deadline, and IF he gets moved, I will take it as a sign that the team will want to avoid the tax again next year, and that setting that path up ahead of time was at least part of the motivation. 

I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, that's when I'll start to worry about Cuban's cheapness.