(07-12-2023, 01:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: So what you’re saying is that the Mavs need to trade for Capela…

(07-12-2023, 01:49 PM)RDB Wrote: Not sure I follow.

(07-12-2023, 01:27 PM)omahen Wrote: My only real problem in the Wood situation is, why Mavs traded for him in the first place. They knew who he is. Sweeney worked with him and I am sure they have plenty of contacts to ask for an honest opinion. So if Wood is a giant pain in the ass in the locker room, they should have known before and avoided him. Dumping 12 mil of bad contracts does not cost a FRP, there would be plenty of other ways to do that and keep the pick. Mavs just took 24 mil of bad contract for similarly placed pick.

The moment they started the McGee will be a starter thing, I knew this will not end well. Wood is clearly way more talented. And even if his numbers don't necessarily contribute to winning, the counting numbers still count. I think Mavs did a lot to tank his value, even if that was not their intention. And by doing this, they also hurt themselves. In my opinion, the smartest way would be to feature him from day 1 and then flip him at TDL. Or not trade for him at all.

In any case, this is all water under the bridge. Wood and Mavs are done and no one will SnT for him. I just hope Mavs learned something from it

(07-12-2023, 01:32 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Can Wood sign a deal with the Shanghai Sharks so we can forever stop talking about the loser.

(07-12-2023, 01:44 PM)RDB Wrote: Where it went off the rails is the same place all of these things go off the rails.  Someone states an opinion and others minimize the opinions.  That puts the person on the defense, others pile on, examples are tailored to fit a narrative, and it eventually gets personal.  It’s social media/message board 101.

Instead of minimizing others opinions, just share your opinions and accept that others may may not be of the same belief.  And it certainly doesn’t help the discussion to say things like “we get it, you hate Kidd”.

Edit: This was not directed at you specifically Kidnova.  It was just a reply to the bold portion of your post and the overall tone of the discussion.

(07-12-2023, 01:59 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote:
Can we document everyone's opinion on Wood and revisit the subject mid-season?

My opinion: Wood is a starting flex, stretch F-C who can reliably get you 18pts/9rbs/1.5blks in 30mins a game at 38%3pt.  He has some rim protection skills, but is a subpar defender.  Given his athletic ability, however, you can scheme him into a good team defense.  In today's market he's a $15-$18m player, but does not have that value currently given his time in DAL last year.

(07-12-2023, 02:05 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: If Wood wants to bet on himself and get paid next year he should take his talents to south beach. Some good defenders and a coach with an IQ above room temperature.

(07-12-2023, 02:08 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Yup.  I base my opinions on facts, not conjecture.  If someone challenges me, I'm coming back with an avalanche of facts.  Conjecture is fine, but again needs to be based upon facts.  Conjecture should be reading between the lines of facts, not facts based upon conjecture.  At any given time, I'll yield and admit to being wrong when proven to be.  It's about getting it right, not being right.

This Wood thing grates on me because I see posters here simply parroting Kidd without really analyzing those repeated assertions.  Bottom line is that Wood proven he should have either started or been 6th man.  The fact that he wasn't isn't on him.  Look at the 17 games he started.  Facts prove that opinion.

(07-12-2023, 02:16 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Good description. IMO, there was/is something un-coachable about him. He obviously didn't respond to whatever DAL needed him to do. It can't just be "Kidd is a dic-tator". There has to be something that caused nobody else to promote someone with his athleticism as part of a winning culture. Hate to lose him for nothing, but it doesn't look like there is a market for his services.

(07-12-2023, 02:18 PM)Kidnova Wrote: You say this, but your belief that all of this is on Kidd is just as much conjecture as those arguing the other side.  None of us were in the room, so none of us know for sure what happened.  There is history on both sides, whether people want to admit it or not, but in the end it doesn't matter because Wood's time as a Mav is over, for whatever reason.

(07-12-2023, 11:09 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: So we spent roster assets and a FRP for someone who was *known to be a coach/lockerroom cancer?  Think, man.  There were absolutely ZERO such allegations approaching that.  There is ZERO evidence that he was anything but hated by Kidd.  All of this is conjecture.  ALL.

Wood was very much a late bloomer.  
* He was undrafted.
* Played 8.5mins in 17 games rookie year, 2015/16.
* Played 8.2mins in 13 games 2nd year, 2016/17.
* Out of the league in 3rd year, 2017/18.
* Played 11.9 mins in 21 games 4th year, 2017/18.

--It is ONLY at this point that you can say his NBA career started, 5th year, 24yo
* Played 21.4mins in 62 games for DET 1st year.  13.1pts/6.3rbs/0.9blks/38.6%3pt
--Signs FA contract with HOU, 3yrs/$41m
* Played 32.1mins in 41 games for HOU 2nd year.  21pts/9.6rbs/1.2blks/37.4%3pt
* Played 30.8mins in 68 games for HOU 3rd year.  17.9pts/10.1rbs/1.0blks/39.0%3pt
--At 26yo and HOU having rookie stud Sengun and drafting JSJ, HOU trades Wood to DAL
* Played 25.9mins in 67 games for DAL 4th year.  16.6pts/7.3rbs/1.1blks/37.6%3pt

So...  in 4 years as a steady NBA roster player, he left DET for FA and was Traded to Dallas.  The ONLY team that "got rid of him" was HOU, who got a FRP for him.  Does this sound like a cancer who keeps getting kicked out of locker rooms?  Why did DAL give up a FRP if that was the case???

As a steady NBA roster player:
4 years, 17.2pts/8.3rbs/1.0blks/38.4%3pt

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IMO Wood should be used as M.Harrell was used when he was 6MOY.  He can come in at either the 4 or 5, shifting the floor lineup however fits the game action.

(07-12-2023, 02:36 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Also, my last post was not directed at you Smitty. You just happened to post in between the time I started typing and hit post.