(01-15-2026, 11:23 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: This is the first confirmation that Dan's idea might actually be possible. Kudos to him, and for the record I'm into it. I suppose it hinges on just what "lucrative extension" means, however. What do we think that's likely to be? More than Gafford is making, I'll bet.

(01-15-2026, 11:21 AM)Smitty Wrote: @esidery
The Pacers are shopping Bennedict Mathurin in hopes of landing an impact starting center.

Due for a lucrative extension this offseason, Indiana has already prioritized Andrew Nembhard and Aaron Nesmith over Mathurin in terms of new long-term contracts.

(01-15-2026, 11:23 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: This is the first confirmation that Dan's idea might actually be possible. Kudos to him, and for the record I'm into it. I suppose it hinges on just what "lucrative extension" means, however. What do we think that's likely to be? More than Gafford is making, I'll bet.

(01-15-2026, 11:31 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I'm not into Mathurin.  He is very similar to Kuminga.  (slightly smaller version)  A guy that could be good if he played a role but he wants the ball and to score 20ppg.

Super inefficient scorer.  He was shooting 42% from three a month ago.  I knew that was a mirage.  Down to 37% already.
Does not offer any playmaking.  (2 assists per game)
Does not use his physical skills to be an imposing defender.



Now, he would fit positionally better than Kuminga.  He is a bit of a slasher that could start alongside Christie and Flagg in a smaller lineup.  His FT% is good so maybe some long term potential to be a better shooter. 
Plus if we don't have any better offers, I wouldn't hate it.  Just not a player I'd target.


CLIFFS:  I'd like players that can either play make or shoot, ideally both.  Kuminga and Mathurin do neither.

(01-15-2026, 12:47 PM)Smitty Wrote: @TheSteinLine
Nothing has really changed with respect to Dallas and Jonathan Kuminga from what we wrote Monday: To this point he has only been mentioned as a Mavericks trade target in the event traction developed between the teams on an Anthony Davis deal.

(01-15-2026, 12:04 PM)Smitty Wrote: He's a RFA, so that helps keep the number down some. I'd guess $20-25M AAV.

(01-15-2026, 12:55 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I take this to mean they view him more as expiring salary than a prospect (though I suppose this particular salary relief would come with a slightly higher chance of being an intriguing fit after a short audition than Porzingis/Kennard). Under those circumstances, I wouldn't mind Kuminga, because the real prize would be something else, like draft capital. I imagine GS is hoping Kuminga is worth something as a player, not just matching salary that expires, and is probably trying to avoid adding picks to move him. Maybe they view a player like Davis as a reason to include a pick or two, only...

I kind of doubt this deal happens, because while I can envision GS thinking Davis is a fit, I think their team is too old to be willing to take a risk of forgoing the rest of this season with this latest hand injury, and I bet the remaining two years on his deal is about the total length of their interest in him. No telling where that team will be in two more years, but my money would be on "done," so I doubt they look like a solution to Rich Paul and AD.

(01-15-2026, 01:06 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think it was already dead before the AD injury.  They don't want to give up Green or Butler and there is no other avenue to do it.  Even if they were willing, Mavs have no interest in those players so you would have to involve a third team.  Never seemed like there was any chance.

(01-15-2026, 01:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, you'd have to be pretty confident you were getting a starting-level fit on your newly made team to commit to that, I'd say. Judging by many of the comments, it doesn't seem like most around here would be. I suppose they could view him as expiring salary, either right away or next year. What would his QO be, just out of curiosity?

(01-15-2026, 01:11 PM)Smitty Wrote: There are a couple ways a Davis trade to GSW could go, all of them require a 3rd team. Some Discord folks brought up the idea of sending Draymond to DET for T. Harris (expiring). The "prize" in any Warriors deal would be the '26 and '28 FRPs.

DAL: Tobias + Kuminga + Moody + '26 & '28 FRP GSW
GSW: Davis + DLO
DET: Draymond + (insert any player on the Mavs roster you want)

(01-15-2026, 01:31 PM)mvossman Wrote: I would do that in a heartbeat.  I would probably do it for one pick.  I like Moody.  That would be salary relief, a good young player and a pick.

(01-15-2026, 02:10 PM)Kidnova Wrote: I must be totally missing the boat on Kuminga.  I don't watch a lot of Warrior's games, but just looking at the stats he seems to be an okay role player at best.  For those of you that have seen more of him, what's the appeal?

(01-15-2026, 02:10 PM)Kidnova Wrote: I must be totally missing the boat on Kuminga.  I don't watch a lot of Warrior's games, but just looking at the stats he seems to be an okay role player at best.  For those of you that have seen more of him, what's the appeal?