(01-12-2025, 06:32 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Didn't watch the game -- but this stood out  on the box scores.

SD had 5 attempts in the fourth quarter and missing 2 3s and a 2.
Grimes had no attempts.

Din had 10 assists with only 2 TOs while Grimes had no assist with 4 TOs.

Spencer was 4 of 13 from the field and was 0 for 3 on 3.
Grimes only had 4 attempts overall with a single conversion of 3 attempts.

Spencer had 39 mins against Grimes' 19.

Of course the Mavs needed a ball handler, and Din is. IMHO, the Mavs could do without one for stretches as there are enough ballhandlers on the team who can ably secure the ball on plays. Din had 10 assists, but he should have sticked with the ball handling and facilitating duties rather than calling his own number. If the Mavs needed points, Kidd should realize than Grimes > Dinwiddie.

Summary: Too many minutes and attempts for Dinwiddie, and wat too less minutes and attempts for Grimes.

Of course -- this is what you would expect from the less than mediocre Jason Kidd.

(01-12-2025, 06:12 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: You're not going to beat many teams scoring 12 pts in the 4th qtr, and giving up 33. Mavs had at least an 11 pt lead in the 3rd qtr.

(01-12-2025, 06:57 PM)Knutsen Wrote: The Mavs were up by 19 and had a winning probability of 97.7 % with about 4 minutes left in the third quarter.

(01-12-2025, 06:57 PM)Knutsen Wrote: The Mavs were up by 19 and had a winning probability of 97.7 % with about 4 minutes left in the third quarter.

(01-12-2025, 06:32 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Didn't watch the game -- but this stood out  on the box scores.

SD had 5 attempts in the fourth quarter and missing 2 3s and a 2.
Grimes had no attempts.

Din had 10 assists with only 2 TOs while Grimes had no assist with 4 TOs.

Spencer was 4 of 13 from the field and was 0 for 3 on 3.
Grimes only had 4 attempts overall with a single conversion of 3 attempts.

Spencer had 39 mins against Grimes' 19.

Of course the Mavs needed a ball handler, and Din is. IMHO, the Mavs could do without one for stretches as there are enough ballhandlers on the team who can ably secure the ball on plays. Din had 10 assists, but he should have sticked with the ball handling and facilitating duties rather than calling his own number. If the Mavs needed points, Kidd should realize than Grimes > Dinwiddie.

Summary: Too many minutes and attempts for Dinwiddie, and wat too less minutes and attempts for Grimes.

Of course -- this is what you would expect from the less than mediocre Jason Kidd.

(01-12-2025, 08:15 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Maxi killed us.  -26 +/-.  He got cooked

(01-12-2025, 06:05 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Games like this makes me wonder what the team things about Grimes.  It looks like he had a rough game, but only had 19 minutes.  I think, especially shorthanded, that he should get close to 30 minutes a game.  To see him with 19 and only 4 shots is curious.

(01-12-2025, 07:27 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: 3:59 Maxi Kleber enters the game for Klay Thompson 69-87
7:54 Daniel Gafford enters the game for Maxi Kleber 94-93

25-6 in eight minutes. Coaching genius after something similar happened at the end of the 1st half.

(01-12-2025, 06:51 PM)sefant Wrote: Grimes played 16 min out of the 19 with Dinwiddie. Obviously he isn't getting shots

(01-12-2025, 08:20 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Who was he guarding?  Was he playing small ball 5?

I noticed he was -26 in 20 minutes.   Grimes was -22 in 19.  Dinwiddie was -17 in 39.  I assume those three were in the game during Denver's big run.  Who else was in the game?  the rest of our starters were plus for the game.   It looks like our bench shot 6 for 23.

(01-12-2025, 05:44 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm not saying Maxi was good this game, but you are using single game net rating to explain he was so bad.  You realize Maxi actually has the third best net rating on the team this season?  He was not the difference of 26 points in this game, and Lively was in foul trouble.

(01-12-2025, 05:44 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm not saying Maxi was good this game, but you are using single game net rating to explain he was so bad.  You realize Maxi actually has the third best net rating on the team this season?  He was not the difference of 26 points in this game, and Lively was in foul trouble.

(01-13-2025, 06:10 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Yes he was. He was awful on both ends of the floor. Killed the defense and the offense.

So he has a positive net rating for the season.

+57 against the Pelicans and Wizards in two games.
-19 rest of the games.

That´s while carefully being cuddled into favourable match-ups and minutes.

Sure it will benefit us greatly in the play-offs that Maxi kicked some butt against the two worst teams in the league.

(01-13-2025, 12:20 PM)mvossman Wrote: Historically he has been his most valuable to this team in the playoffs.  I disagree with him being cuddled into favorable match-ups.  I would argue that he has mostly been playing out of position at the 4 when at this point he clearly needs to be at the 5 in specific circumstances.  

But my primary point was more about how you have bashed large sample net rating numbers on this board many times, but when it fits your narrative you use small sample example to make your point.  Can't have it both ways.

(01-13-2025, 12:20 PM)mvossman Wrote: Historically he has been his most valuable to this team in the playoffs.  I disagree with him being cuddled into favorable match-ups.  I would argue that he has mostly been playing out of position at the 4 when at this point he clearly needs to be at the 5 in specific circumstances.  

But my primary point was more about how you have bashed large sample net rating numbers on this board many times, but when it fits your narrative you use small sample example to make your point.  Can't have it both ways.