(06-28-2023, 03:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I'd argue getting Reaves+Vando and then trading for Ayton is a better team long term and short term than just keeping Irving.

Luka/Hardy
Reaves/Green
MLE/OMP
Vando/Maxi
Ayton/Lively

Average team age: 21 excluding the MLE signing

Teams likely salary just above if Reaves signs for like 18 mil: 149,115,021

(06-28-2023, 03:35 PM)mvossman Wrote: My biggest issue with draft night was how it seemed to be a different direction than the Kyrie signing.  Getting an unprotected first back and at least one good young player would be more in line with the current direction.

(06-28-2023, 03:36 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: This was discussed quite a bit ago. Lakers can’t sign Reaves for more than $12.2M. They can go over that amount to match an offer. On top of that, he forced his way to LAL in the draft, he wants to stay. SnT for Reaves is not an option. This is why I included Rui.

(06-28-2023, 03:41 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Forgot about that.

Rui still works although I get a bit less excited for that return vs. Reaves.

(06-28-2023, 03:51 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I don’t see any facet of basketball Rui Hachimura is good at other than maybe as a 6th man inefficient scorer.

(06-28-2023, 03:54 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Also, Rui will cost less.

(06-28-2023, 03:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don’t think the Lakers would want to give up Vanderbilt AND Hachimura, anyway. they’d need to keep one of them to play with AD. I’m sure they’d WANT to get off of Hachimura and keep Vanderbilt, but I’d walk away and lose Kyrie for nothing before I’d agree to that.

(06-28-2023, 03:51 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I don’t see any facet of basketball Rui Hachimura is good at other than maybe as a 6th man inefficient scorer.

He was a good fit on the Lakers cause they were playing three guys that can’t shoot. Lebron, AD, and Schroeder.

(06-28-2023, 03:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, he had a ROUGH year, and then when a team decides to let him shoot in one playoff series (he was shooting 29% before that, so it was a good strategy, I think) he goes bonkers for a series (good for him). Now, recency bias has people thinking he’s a good player. In my book, he is not.

Plus, he plays the position I’d want Vanderbilt and OMAX to play, personally. 

I don’t think the Lakers would want to give up Vanderbilt AND Hachimura, anyway. they’d need to keep one of them to play with AD. I’m sure they’d WANT to get off of Hachimura and keep Vanderbilt, but I’d walk away and lose Kyrie for nothing before I’d agree to that.

(06-28-2023, 05:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Would ya go to Miami and offer:

Kyrie+THJ+McGee for Lowry+Herro+Jamie Jaquez+Jovic?

(06-28-2023, 05:17 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I would, but the deal doesn’t solve Miami’s hard cap issue or their Strus/Vincent issue.  They would need a taker for Robinson with no returning salary at the very least and even then it is probably Strus or Vincent returning…not both.

BTW, I think this is the Kyrie to LA thread.  The other one is the Kyrie to Houston thread.  If you weren’t the moderator I’d politely suggest you start this conversation in another thread for Kyrie to Miami so we can keep it all straight .

(06-26-2023, 05:39 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Yes. You could tell Nico was serious. This is the way. We have the young core of Hardy/Green/O-Max/Lively led by Luka. They will all play immediately. And this is who we build around long term

The flip side to the “young 5” is to find the right veterans around them. Kyrie, Maxi, and THJ i think are guys who compliment the young 5 well. We still need 2 more of the right type players. Perfect to me would be Bruce Brown and G Williams. But, those type of guys

This is going to be a good team that sneaks up on folks by the end of the year. It’s going to be so much fun to watch and i can’t wait. I’m honestly looking at flying out to Vegas for summer league