(07-18-2024, 01:37 PM)BPo001 Wrote: Westbrook traded to Jazz. Expected to be bought out.

(07-18-2024, 11:20 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Markelle Fultz and Tyus Jones are still out there…I wonder why.

(07-18-2024, 01:47 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: So he can sign with Denver allegedly.

(07-18-2024, 01:49 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Asking price is too high.

(07-18-2024, 01:47 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: So he can sign with Denver allegedly.

(07-18-2024, 03:21 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @LawMurrayTheNU
For those who believed things that made no sense, let me also confirm that the Clippers were never in on Tyus Jones and this transaction finally closing for Kris Dunn ends all of that talk

PG: Harden, Dunn
SG: Mann, Powell
SF: Jones, Coffey
PF: Leonard, Batum
C: Zubac, Bamba

(07-18-2024, 01:47 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: So he can sign with Denver allegedly.

(07-18-2024, 02:49 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: First thing I thought when I heard this was “Good for Denver, they are trying to get Jokic to Dallas!”

(07-18-2024, 11:11 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The market has cratered over two weeks into free agency.

Most players who were hoping for solid paydays will now likely have to settle for prove-it deals on the veteran’s minimum.

Contending teams could find solid value with the best available remaining:

Tyus Jones
Markelle Fultz
Isaac Okoro (RFA)
Lonnie Walker
Luke Kennard
Precious Achiuwa
Spencer Dinwiddie
Gordon Hayward
Jae Crowder
Marcus Morris
Dennis Smith Jr.
Robert Covington
Cedi Osman
Doug McDermott

(07-19-2024, 02:39 AM)omahen Wrote: Very interesting names on the list, most of them would be at least positive end of rotation guys. Although, they would probably look for minutes in the "prove it" deal. And Mavs are difficult to provide some. I think Jones will resign with Washington at a decent number (is not a vet min guy). Some other guys too might resign with their current teams, but I could see most of them getting vet min only. 

Biggest Mavs question before next season are the back-up PG minutes when one of the stars is out. Is anyone on the team capable of leading the team in those games for 15 minutes or will they need to run the other star to the ground playing 40+ minutes, because no one else will be capable leading the team.  More or less what happened last season - when Kyrie was injured, Luka played almost 40 minutes in December and several consecutive games with 40+ minutes. This takes a toll. I don't see Hardy in that role, I think he can only perform well while playing with one of the stars. Unfortunately, I think it is very similar situation with Exum, although he is imho more of a PG than Hardy. However, if you do bring another capable PG into the mix, he will likely expect minutes in regular rotation on a prove it deal, which means minutes are getting tight for Hardy and Exum. Not a big deal, as both are on vet minimums. If they can't perform, they will likely be out of the league. 

Jones, Fultz, SD and Smith Jr are PG on that list. Jones would be great for regular season, although he is small and difficult to play next to Kyrie. But, I don't see him sign for vet min. Fultz is not really a great fit on this team with his weak shooting. Would only be able to play as the lead ballhandler, so probably not a lot of love between him and Mavs. DSj is a vet min guy, but I don't see him as considerably better option than Exum or Hardy. SD could be the most interesting in the role, but only if he accepts the third PG role. I wouldn't play him with everyone healthy, because he is not a good enough defender.

Mavs don't need score first shooting guards, imho, which takes Kennard, McDermott and Walker out of the picture. You can never have enough wings, but it would be difficult to find minutes for them. Okoro is best on the list, but he will certainly look for a bigger role and someone will give it to him. Hayward, Morris, Crowder and RoCo could all be decent deep rotation players, capable of providing a good game here and there. A lot of experience. Much better deep bench vets than Powell and our current Morris. If they accept the role. Achiuwa is a very interesting name, but I think it would take Mavs to give him Maxi role and minutes, to get him here. Difficult to play another non shooter next to Lively and Gafford. Osman is imho meh.

(07-19-2024, 06:41 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Lots of playable PG's available.  Last I heard Tyus Jones was probably not going to be back in Washington and they would work out a sign and trade.  IMO he is one of the best (if not best) backup guards in the league.   It will be interesting to see where he winds up.    It probably will be a few second round picks.    Tough to see how they get salary to work though.  

If I was any of those minimum guys, I think the Bucks is the most attractive option.  Who is their backup point guard?   They would be ahead of the Mavs I think in desirability.   There should be a good amount of playing time available....a ton of playing time with Dame is out.   PHX can only offer the minimum as well.   They could be attractive to some of these guys...eventhough they have picked up spare parts PGs already this offseason.

(07-19-2024, 07:19 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Your old friend Delon Wright will probably back up Lillard. They signed him a couple of weeks ago. They also have Ty-Ty Washington on the roster. Not sure if he gets time though.

(07-19-2024, 12:19 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: It looks like Fultz won't be back in Orlando.  I thought last year he was starting to break through.  Not #1 pick break through, but a solid rotation player.  He played in 60 games and scored 14 points per game.  He can't shoot and injuries are a huge concern.  He missed a lot of this season.    Still though, with the market drying up, a bad team should be willing to gamble on him.  I believe he went to high school in Washington DC.  Interesting low cost gamble. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrX9zjlSfXo

(07-19-2024, 12:19 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: It looks like Fultz won't be back in Orlando.  I thought last year he was starting to break through.  Not #1 pick break through, but a solid rotation player.  He played in 60 games and scored 14 points per game.  He can't shoot and injuries are a huge concern.  He missed a lot of this season.    Still though, with the market drying up, a bad team should be willing to gamble on him.  I believe he went to high school in Washington DC.  Interesting low cost gamble. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrX9zjlSfXo

(07-19-2024, 03:31 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Grant Williams to Philly would be hilarious. 2nd round Game 7 in Philly, Boston wins, and Grant jumps into their huddle to celebrate with him.