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RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Ghost of Podkolzin - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 12:46 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Depends on the outgoing and starting salary, it possible.
Question is why do we want Trent Jr when we have Klay, Grimes, and Hardy?
Hardy replacement, scoring SG/SF.
Luka, Exum
Kyrie, Grimes
Klay, TrentJr
PJ, OMax
Lively, Gafford
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - DallasMaverick - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 12:47 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Ignore the feasibility of this idea by the way, but purely as a thought experiment, if the Clippers come calling at the TDL next season and offer you Kawhi for pennies on the dollar (like cheapest package possible, no picks, etc.) do you want him?
So, you'd need to find $50m in salary to send out:
Maxi $11m
Gafford $14m
Powell $4m
Klay $17m
Grimes $4m
Or maybe:
Kyrie $40m
Maxi $11m
Actually, it would be even more we'd have to send out, since we need to sign minimum players to fill the vacant slots.
A hard no from me.
I like the team we've got.
...come to think of it, this little exercise underscores how little bad payroll Dallas has to send out. Masterful job by Nico.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-10-2024
@LawMurrayTheNU
League source confirms to
@TheAthletic
that the NBA will be resuming the investigation on Kevin Porter Jr., who has not faced league discipline despite sitting out 2023-24 season.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 01:36 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: So, you'd need to find $50m in salary to send out:
Maxi $11m
Gafford $14m
Powell $4m
Klay $17m
Grimes $4m
Or maybe:
Kyrie $40m
Maxi $11m
Actually, it would be even more we'd have to send out, since we need to sign minimum players to fill the vacant slots.
A hard no from me.
I like the team we've got.
...come to think of it, this little exercise underscores how little bad payroll Dallas has to send out. Masterful job by Nico.
That's fair. I was trying to avoid the actual merits of the idea and instead try to gauge if Kawhi, the player only, is worth it still.
I also would not do it. It's just silly contract wise.
But is Kawhi the player still worth all of his headaches and injuries?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - BigDirk41 - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 01:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That's fair. I was trying to avoid the actual merits of the idea and instead try to gauge if Kawhi, the player only, is worth it still.
I also would not do it. It's just silly contract wise.
But is Kawhi the player still worth all of his headaches and injuries?
Short answer is no, he's not worth the headaches and injuries because you can't depend on him. Hit talent is undeniable and out of this world on both ends. If he can't play when it matters, it isn't worth it imo.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Mavs2021 - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 12:47 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Ignore the feasibility of this idea by the way, but purely as a thought experiment, if the Clippers come calling at the TDL next season and offer you Kawhi for pennies on the dollar (like cheapest package possible, no picks, etc.) do you want him?
No. He´s toast.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - DallasMaverick - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 01:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That's fair. I was trying to avoid the actual merits of the idea and instead try to gauge if Kawhi, the player only, is worth it still.
I also would not do it. It's just silly contract wise.
But is Kawhi the player still worth all of his headaches and injuries?
Yes. Yes, he's worth all the headaches and injuries.
...on a vet min contract!!
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Ghost of Podkolzin - 07-10-2024
Let's leave Kyrie and Klay as our only ageing superstars.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - RoyTarpleysGhost - 07-10-2024
Hardy can get buckets and I like that he isn't scared. Trying to envision how he fits though.
Lets say at the 6 minute mark of the 1st quarter Kyrie checks out and Grimes checks in.
Then beginning of 2nd quarter Luka checks out. Are Kyrie and Hardy too small to play together? Are they both shooting guards in point guard bodies? Do you want a better playmaker and defender next to Kyrie like Tyus Jones?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Ghost of Podkolzin - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 02:57 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Hardy can get buckets and I like that he isn't scared. Trying to envision how he fits though.
Lets say at the 6 minute mark of the 1st quarter Kyrie checks out and Grimes checks in.
Then beginning of 2nd quarter Luka checks out. Are Kyrie and Hardy too small to play together? Are they both shooting guards in point guard bodies? Do you want a better playmaker and defender next to Kyrie like Tyus Jones?
Whenever we talk about minutes, few factor in injuries. I like to view each position as having 4,000 minutes in a season. Below is how many minutes our starters played last year.
Gms Mins Total Remain
Luka 70 38 2,625 -1,375
Kyrie 58 35 2,030 -1,970
Klay 77 30 2,287 -1,713
PJ 73 30 2,219 -1,781
Lively 55 24 1,293 -2,708
This leaves about 3,400 minutes for guards, 3,400 minutes for forwards, and 2,700 minutes at center.
If you take Hardy, Exum, and Grimes (only playing guard minutes) there's more than enough.
Gms Mins Total
Hardy 73 14 993
Exum 55 20 1,089
Grimes 51 20 1,025
3,107
Forwards...
Gms Mins Total
Naji 66 19 1,254
Omax 40 8 336
Maxi 43 20 873
2,463
We have a deficit for minutes at forward.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Knutsen - 07-10-2024
(07-10-2024, 12:56 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://x.com/hoopshype/status/1811023291466867157
Klay Thompson has taken the biggest haircut this season.
That’s actually pretty funny!
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Chicagojk - 07-10-2024
John Hollinger fake trade idea. Not going to happen but admire the creativity.
First: Philadelphia acquires Markkanen by sign-and-trading Kenyon Martin Jr. on a three-year max deal, with only the first year guaranteed, and adding Ricky Council IV and four firsts (one unprotected from the LA Clippers in 2028, one in 2026 that is likely Oklahoma City’s, their own unprotected in 2029 or first year available and their own unprotected in 2031 if available); that keeps the Sixers just under the second apron, and they can do this wacky contract because Martin has full Bird rights and hasn’t signed yet.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-10-2024
van Sidery (@esidery)
Landry Shamet returning to the Wizards at a smaller figure than his $11 million team option remains in play, per league source.
The Bucks, Heat, Knicks and Timberwolves have expressed interest in signing Shamet.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - michaeltex - 07-11-2024
(07-10-2024, 04:56 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Whenever we talk about minutes, few factor in injuries. I like to view each position as having 4,000 minutes in a season. Below is how many minutes our starters played last year.
Gms Mins Total Remain
Luka 70 38 2,625 -1,375
Kyrie 58 35 2,030 -1,970
Klay 77 30 2,287 -1,713
PJ 73 30 2,219 -1,781
Lively 55 24 1,293 -2,708
This leaves about 3,400 minutes for guards, 3,400 minutes for forwards, and 2,700 minutes at center.
If you take Hardy, Exum, and Grimes (only playing guard minutes) there's more than enough.
Gms Mins Total
Hardy 73 14 993
Exum 55 20 1,089
Grimes 51 20 1,025
3,107
Forwards...
Gms Mins Total
Naji 66 19 1,254
Omax 40 8 336
Maxi 43 20 873
2,463
We have a deficit for minutes at forward.
Very nice breakdown!
A couple of comments/questions...
Need to include Gafford's minutes as I view he and DLive as a two-headed center, at least to start this season.
Can we make an assumption yet that Omax gets more burn? more minutes and for more games? 8 minutes in half the games isn't going to grow his skills. Aren't we hoping for him to take a step up this year?
I want to say Maxi's usage will increase, but I waver on that. He's had some weird injuries the last few years, and I don't know if it's age related or just bad luck.
The team want's to dial back Luka's minutes a bit. Does anyone have an idea of what that means? What about Kyrie's minutes?
Can we make the case that some of Luka's minutes will be played as a PF? at least on defense?
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 09:33 AM)michaeltex Wrote: The team want's to dial back Luka's minutes a bit. Does anyone have an idea of what that means? What about Kyrie's minutes?
Can we make the case that some of Luka's minutes will be played as a PF? at least on defense?
To be fair, the Mavs never said they want to dial back either Luka's or Kyrie minutes. Obviously they should, as playing nearly 40mpg every game is just asking for problems. But I wouldn't be surprised if Kidd kept Luka at 35-36 mins (instead of 38).
I don't think there will be a drastic reduction in his minutes at all.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Deebo - 07-11-2024
Why is Spencer not signed????
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - Kidnova - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 02:55 PM)Deebo Wrote: Why is Spencer not signed????
He's probably trying to find a team that will be able to give him max minutes. If he's going to end up taking vet min, then there's no reason for him to rush.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-11-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The Miami Heat tried to acquire DeMar DeRozan, but no team wanted Duncan Robinson's contract, per
@BobbyMarks42
Miami also missed out on Tyus Jones.
(h/t @ohnohedidnt24 )
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - KillerLeft - 07-11-2024
(07-11-2024, 02:56 PM)Kidnova Wrote: He's probably trying to find a team that will be able to give him max minutes. If he's going to end up taking vet min, then there's no reason for him to rush.
This, and possibly it's just a mater of all the guys who're worth more than the minimum being ahead of him in the pecking order. If team A misses out on guard X, they'll be interested in Dinwiddie, etc.
Lowry, Fultz and others are still out there.
RE: Trade & FA 2024-25: WAS Working SnT Options for Tyus Jones - SleepingHero - 07-11-2024
@TheDunkCentral
The Lakers are showing interest in Wendell Carter Jr., per
@SeanDeveney