(06-13-2023, 07:06 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Respectfully, this is Miami.  They are the best in the biz at this kind of thing.

(06-13-2023, 10:42 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: The Denver blueprint for roster construction has been talked about alot. When you read about their trades and signings, you keep hearing one word. FIT. They know what they have in Jokic/Murray and they find role players who compliment and FIT their big 2. I only hope we can do the same with Luka/Kyrie.

(06-13-2023, 10:42 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: The Denver blueprint for roster construction has been talked about alot. When you read about their trades and signings, you keep hearing one word. FIT. They know what they have in Jokic/Murray and they find role players who compliment and FIT their big 2. I only hope we can do the same with Luka/Kyrie.

It also interesting to see that they only played 8 guys the whole series. This is normal come playoff/finals time, but to see they acquired 3 of the 8 in this last off season gives us hope. 

Murray = Kyrie
Jokic = Luka
Gordon = ???
Porter Jr = ????
Caldwell-Pope = THJ

Brown =  Hardy
Braun = Josh Green
Green = Maxi

We are technically missing two pieces from an 8 man Finals rotation. The problem is one of them is a center and the other should be one of these tall athletic forwards like Gordon, Siakam, or to a lesser extent Vanderbilt, DFS, etc. With both needing defense as their calling card. 

This view pushes me towards trading #10 for a 3rd wheel like the Nuggets did with Aaron Gordon.  This would probably need to be a big.
Then we'd only need our Porter Jr.  Or is Josh Green ready to step up and be our version of Porter Jr?

If so then maybe we only need our Christian Braun. The 21st pick in the previous draft. Do we get a pick past the lottery for trading down past 10?  
This is where versions of the Atlanta trade would be a homerun for us.   Dallas get Collins/#15 for Bertans/Bullock / #10

At 15 we draft the best fit of who could be available. Lively, Hood-Schifino, Leonard Miller, Coulibaly, Jordan Hawkins

New roster compared to Denver:
Murray = Kyrie
Jokic = Luka
Gordon = John Collins
Porter Jr = Josh Green
Caldwell-Pope = THJ

Brown =  Hardy
Braun = #16 
Green = Maxi

(06-13-2023, 11:57 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Thing is that the fit starts with your big 2 and I am not sure if Kyrie/Luka is a natural fit. So far we saw a lot of "your turn...my turn". Can Luka develop an off ball game? Can the coaches find ways to involve both without turning one into a spot up shooter? Not to even mention potential defensive issues.

(06-13-2023, 12:09 PM)Knutsen Wrote: Brown is probably going to opt out. I would love to have him in a starting role between Kyrie and Luka, because he’s a great rebounder and good defender and shooter. But we probably can‘t pay him much more than Denver could (7.8 million). And he said that he‘s willing to stay for less money because winning is more important to him than money right now.

(06-13-2023, 11:30 AM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: I agree if that’s the return for Kyrie to Miami, Luka is as good as gone. What’s the most cap space they can get to if they dump Lowry for air and we don’t play ball? Wouldn’t they still need to dump Dipo and Herro to get Kyrie $?

(06-13-2023, 12:13 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: I have the same questions. When i posted that, i almost mentioned that Denver has the perfect set up with their "big 2". A ball handler and a super hybrid big. He's basically a 7 foot Luka. 

Our "big 2" was two ball dominant handlers. Hard to make work, but it can work.

(06-13-2023, 03:01 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Oh, the board is going to lose it's SH!T in 3, 2, 1.....

(06-13-2023, 03:04 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: link please

(06-13-2023, 03:06 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: Dwight Powell got you!

(06-13-2023, 03:17 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: You have to be leary of the Heat.  Great organization, favorite place to live and they just seem to walk into stuff.  The Voodoo S they did getting Butler was just crazy.    I mean look at this below.  I know there were reasons for this but still.  Dallas would have traded liked 4 first round picks in this scenario.

Heat acquire:

SG: Jimmy Butler
C: Meyers Leonard
76ers acquire:

SG: Josh Richardson
Trail Blazers acquire:

Hassan Whiteside
Clippers acquire:

Mo Harkless
Protected 2023 first-round pick


I read somewhere today (was it here ?) that the Heat did put in an offer for Irving prior to being traded to Dallas.

(06-13-2023, 03:43 PM)Jym Wrote: Still such a weird off season for us 
We could have gotten Dragic plus that 2023 first round pick if we tried at all

(06-13-2023, 12:16 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: Brown is one of those "glue" guys. Any team would love to have him.  

I bet Denver keeps him, 100%. But he would fit on this team for sure.

(06-13-2023, 12:28 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Here is an important aspect of this if we assume Kyrie wants out and Dallas takes the Houston threat seriously.  The Miami package DOES NOT have to equal what we gave up to get Kyrie.  It DOES NOT have to represent fair value in the market place.  All it has to do is be better than what Dallas could do in the open market with cap room and the room MLE (vs. the Miami package and the full MLE).