(04-27-2023, 02:27 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: All depends on how Nico handles anyone going over his head to MC.

(04-27-2023, 02:42 PM)omahen Wrote: I don't think he talks to them separately. It is his "circle of trust". I think they get together, he listens to everyone and then decide. But you are right, in a normal world it would be just Nico and Cuban.

(04-27-2023, 12:29 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: If nothing else we need someone who is a better negotiator.  

Donnie was awful. Nico not much better. Whether we are giving up more talent or taking back really bad contracts we seem to be the team always ponying up some extra picks. 

I said when the KP deal was made that there was no need to give up 2 first and just stay pat if the Knicks had refused. Then we send off KP who was the most talented player in that deal with the Wiz also desperate to move SD and Bertans and yet we give up a 2nd.  We then give up an unprotected first for Kyrie.  I am not even bringing up who negotiated what with Brunson. Even if you are 100% sure they would reject throw a 5 year 125 mill contract at him so that you can legit claim he turned you down. 

Poor negotiating skills. Almost like a child negotiating with adults. Poor PR skills in terms of at least making an offer for someone to reject. This FO desperately needs a strong GM.  I can guarantee that all other GMs are always ready to make a deal with the Mavs. They know a sucker when they see one.

(04-27-2023, 02:42 PM)omahen Wrote: I don't think he talks to them separately. It is his "circle of trust". I think they get together, he listens to everyone and then decide. But you are right, in a normal world it would be just Nico and Cuban.

(04-27-2023, 01:34 PM)Jym Wrote: I still feel like most people around here haven't accepted how horrible of a deal that truly was

(04-27-2023, 03:59 PM)BoredAssistant Wrote: Jerry West needs a new challenge and the Clippers' future looks boring.  Kick the tires, write the check, and get out of the way.  Ignore that he doesn't want to leave CA nor leave Ballmer for this.

(04-27-2023, 04:05 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Wanted West for so long and wished Cuban would just money whip him!

(04-27-2023, 12:29 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: If nothing else we need someone who is a better negotiator.  

Donnie was awful. Nico not much better. Whether we are giving up more talent or taking back really bad contracts we seem to be the team always ponying up some extra picks. 

I said when the KP deal was made that there was no need to give up 2 first and just stay pat if the Knicks had refused. Then we send off KP who was the most talented player in that deal with the Wiz also desperate to move SD and Bertans and yet we give up a 2nd.  We then give up an unprotected first for Kyrie.  I am not even bringing up who negotiated what with Brunson. Even if you are 100% sure they would reject throw a 5 year 125 mill contract at him so that you can legit claim he turned you down. 

Poor negotiating skills. Almost like a child negotiating with adults. Poor PR skills in terms of at least making an offer for someone to reject. This FO desperately needs a strong GM.  I can guarantee that all other GMs are always ready to make a deal with the Mavs. They know a sucker when they see one.

(04-28-2023, 03:45 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Yes, this has always bothered me as well.

It also helps if you can negotiate in power and if you can evaluate talent correctly.   Mavs are always looking for that shiny move so they are typically negotiating with little leverage and they aren't very good evaluating talent.    Those are just killers.

The only way Dallas gets out of this (besides getting the #1 pick) is finding guys who can evaluate talent and giving the resources to do so.    Not every move will work, but throw stuff at the wall.    The more smart decisions you make, the more likelihood you will stumble on something really good.    If we keep #10, I think I will be in strong favor of keeping that pick.  That pick will not be a win now move but will be a great test to see if this team can make the hard decision at #10.  It could pay off huge in 2 years.     

This may be really small and there are much bigger things to worry about, but I will be really curious how aggressive they are with the 3 two way guys next year?  Do the Mavs do their thing where they move really slow and treat those spots as hinderances or do they move quickly and evaluate talent and secure a few of those spots?

 
 Former head coaches James Borrego (Magic and Hornets) and Jeff Hornacek (Suns and Knicks) are among the expected top targets for the opening Dallas has created on its bench to bolster Jason Kidd's coaching staff.

(04-30-2023, 01:17 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: From Stein regarding hiring of an experienced assistant coach:


 
 Former head coaches James Borrego (Magic and Hornets) and Jeff Hornacek (Suns and Knicks) are among the expected top targets for the opening Dallas has created on its bench to bolster Jason Kidd's coaching staff.

Frank Vogel would also be a natural target, given the close relationship he forged with Kidd in Los Angeles when Kidd served as an assistant to Vogel for two seasons with the Lakers, but it's believed that Vogel is currently focused on a return at the head coach level.

Borrego and Vogel both interviewed for the Houston coaching vacancy that went to Udoka.
Terry Stotts, who has a career record of 517-486 (.515) in head coaching stints in Milwaukee, Atlanta and Portland, is a former Mavericks assistant from Kidd’s second Maverick stint as a player who likewise could emerge as a Dallas candidate.

Stephen Silas, another former Mavericks assistant coach, is said to be sought by Boston as an assistant on Joe Mazzulla's staff for next season after Silas coached the Rockets for the past three seasons. Silas was in Boston recently to watch the Celtics’ Game 5 home defeat to Atlanta in the first round. …

(05-01-2023, 06:05 AM)Chicagojk Wrote:  
If there’s any other glimmer of hope from the miserable season that was, it’s how clearly it exposed the team’s flaws, one team executive said in a late-season conversation. That another season, where the team had been luckier, might not have sparked such conviction in meaningful change.

“I saw this coming a long time ago,” one former team employee said, “but I didn’t expect it to be this bad.”

(05-01-2023, 06:05 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Portion from a depressing article fromCato today.  Some other nuggets in the article too.  Mavs had produced a video they hoped to show to Jalen in meeting.  LOL.  Kidd was the driving factor for McGee.

, Cuban once again claimed that the team was never provided an opportunity to negotiate with Brunson — something Cuban blamed on Brunson’s father, Rick, who was hired as an assistant coach for the Knicks in May 2022. Brunson’s agents, according to a team source, did inquire about the team’s planned offer in the days leading up to free agency, but Dallas declined to reveal its thinking, saying it would withhold that for the meeting the team ultimately never received.

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If there’s any other glimmer of hope from the miserable season that was, it’s how clearly it exposed the team’s flaws, one team executive said in a late-season conversation. That another season, where the team had been luckier, might not have sparked such conviction in meaningful change.

“I saw this coming a long time ago,” one former team employee said, “but I didn’t expect it to be this bad.”

(05-01-2023, 09:08 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/mavsfilmroom/status/1653036762002862084?s=46&t=Fmdr94oXagcEyy75KJqaFg