COVID-19: Scrimmage games | July 23 (NBATV), 26 (NBATV), 28 (FSSW) for DAL

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RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - Tyler - 05-23-2020

(05-23-2020, 07:11 PM)Hypermav Wrote: My new proposal is Houston, Utah, OKC and the Mavs play each other for the right to NOT play the "play in" teams. Loser in the group joins Memphis in the one game tournament.

(I think the Nets poor record as the 7th seed in the east is what is dragging the Mavs into this potential problem.)

The top 7 in the west and top 6 in the east are very clear. If they really want a play-in tournament, I'd make it for the 8th seed in each conference. To fill the extra spot in the east, just let Brooklyn and Orlando play for the 7 seed with the loser getting a second shot at it in the tournament.

BTW, I suspect the media-driven fantasy of a competitive tournament to make the playoffs is very likely to conflict with the reality of several clearly medicore teams falling all over themselves to lose and stay in the lottery.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - DanSchwartzgan - 05-24-2020

We all tend to focus on the idea of a play-in for 7th and 8th...which is patently unfair to Dallas. Why would a team that is basically .600 have to be subject to a play-in. The reason this idea comes up is it was floated as part of Silver's revamp starting in 21/22 (to also include an in-season tournament). I'm not sure it is the most likely outcome.

I think the idea of Group Play has merit though and solves the other major problem of the premature end to the regular season. Everyone focuses on who gets in, but this particular season, the 9th place teams don't have much of an argument. Seeding, however, could have changed dramatically over the course of the remaining games. I see, and haven't since we started these discussions, no need to play additional regular season games. In fact, I wouldn't bring the other 14 teams into the situation at all. It is just extra risk of infection.

But, some kind of Group Play that replaces the first round would make for much better TV than Milwaukee destroying Orlando in four games. I'd play 3-5 warm-up games and then divide everyone into 4 groups of four for Group Play. This would be much better TV as every game would matter. The groups would yield a 1 through 4 ranking. Everyone continues to play, but those rankings are used to play a best of 3 elimination round. So everyone gets 5-6 games between the two parts. From there you take the four winners and those are the semi-finalist for each conference.

You wouldn't have to maintain conferences, but assuming you did...Group Play in each conference would be:

1, 4, 5, 8 and 2, 3, 6, 7, with each group having a 1-4 rank after this round. In the elimination round 1 plays 4 from the other group, 2 plays 3 from the other group and so fourth. That leaves you with four winners which advance to the traditional best of seven conference semi's. This would be so much more interesting than the traditional first round and is totally doable because of the single-site format. The league needs a good product right out of the gate and something like this will be much more interesting than that Milwaukee/Orlando series no one is looking forward to.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - Tyler - 05-24-2020

Yeah, Mavs fans seem fixated on the play-in proposals for the 7th seed because that scenario clearly screws Dallas. But the group play proposal for the first round makes a lot more sense to me. It rewards the good teams that already played well this season while allowing for the possibility that the final seeds could have been different if they finished out the full season. And it would definitely be great TV.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - SleepingHero - 05-24-2020

(05-23-2020, 06:45 PM)ThunderMav Wrote: https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1264245942544367617

Dallas obviously gets the entirety of Epcot's World Showcase given how many international players we have. Only fair.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ThunderMav - 05-24-2020

(05-24-2020, 02:35 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:
(05-23-2020, 06:45 PM)ThunderMav Wrote: https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1264245942544367617

Dallas obviously gets the entirety of Epcot's World Showcase given how many international players we have. Only fair.

Thunder have 6 how many does Mavs have?

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - SleepingHero - 05-24-2020

(05-24-2020, 06:58 PM)ThunderMav Wrote: Thunder have 6 how many does Mavs have?

Mavs have 6 as well! So we have to split the world it seems.

Unless we count Dirk. Cause Dirk is eternal and that'd put the Mavs at 7. (Can you tell I'm still not over not seeing Dirk in a Mavs jersey?)

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ThunderMav - 05-24-2020

I missed Dirk this year. Always enjoyed watching him. No team buddy building he won with harder work.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ItsGoTime - 05-24-2020

(05-24-2020, 10:34 AM)Tyler Wrote: Yeah, Mavs fans seem fixated on the play-in proposals for the 7th seed because that scenario clearly screws Dallas. But the group play proposal for the first round makes a lot more sense to me. It rewards the good teams that already played well this season while allowing for the possibility that the final seeds could have been different if they finished out the full season. And it would definitely be great TV.

The reason I fixated on it is because that's the news that was being reported. I like the merging of conferences style "first round" proposed. Breaking up the monotony of the same old, same old format would give Silver something he can put his stamp on the game from.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ClutchDirk - 05-25-2020

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1265042908459171840

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ClutchDirk - 05-26-2020

https://twitter.com/kevin_mcgran/status/1265319938845290497

https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1265316009516445702

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ClutchDirk - 05-26-2020

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/5/26/21270365/nba-restart-world-cup

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - Hypermav - 05-26-2020

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I would take this Group 3 but on principle the Spurs should not be included. I think we match up better with Group 4 teams except the Clips.

My group of death would be Lakers, Heat, Rockets, Mavericks and Blazers.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ClutchDirk - 05-27-2020

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1265666277722464256

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - omahen - 05-27-2020

(05-26-2020, 05:16 PM)Hypermav Wrote: My group of death would be Lakers, Heat, Rockets, Mavericks and Blazers.

Yeah, that would be awful. If I could pick for us: Raptors (good but still below other three), Jazz (Bogi is out for season), Sixers (they will be either very good or just fall apart), Mavs, Kings

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - JamesConway - 05-27-2020

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1265724193049632768?s=20

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - ClutchDirk - 05-27-2020

https://twitter.com/InsideHoops/status/1265781551805145088

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - SleepingHero - 05-27-2020

(05-27-2020, 03:59 PM)JamesConway Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1265724193049632768?s=20

This seems a bit crazy to me. Early August start date??

I mean at that point just wait exactly one more month and start the new season. But that just makes too much sense...

Its quite clear why the NBA is pushing so hard and it all has to do with $$$. Not knocking it because hey they're a business, but to basically choose to restart the season in August, and push back the next however many seasons to December (and leaving what like 10 weeks of the offseason if they end in October??) seems radical to save this single post-season.

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - Reunion Mav Old - 05-27-2020

(05-27-2020, 06:39 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/InsideHoops/status/1265781551805145088

That is great news. Now maybe we can hear from some Mavs players. Get Luka back in Dallas please!

RE: COVID-19: Shams: "hope emerging of games tipping off by mid-July." - Mavs2019 - 05-28-2020

If the 7th and 8th seed have to risk their play-off spot against the 9-14 in a eight team single elimination tournament, then it´s only fair that the draft seedings are re-adjusted to compensate those four teams for an upset loss. That means they take the place of their opponent (in our case the Suns) and the Mavs get the 10th odds (14% top 4). If the Mavs reach the play-in tournament finals they qualify for the play-offs and can then tank the final to avoid the Clippers. So instead of getting wasted by the Clippers in round one we either get to play the Lakers or we improve our draft position by ten places. Looks like a win-win situation to me.

Come on Cuban this is your chance to leverage and outsmart the league.