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RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Kammrath - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 11:50 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Show me the link that shows the Mavs were willing to go above the NY offer to get him to stay. That's all that matters.
Stein saying that "money not the deciding factor" is the closest you are going to get and the Mavs wanting to give a final offer. To me that screams the potential willingness of the Mavs to beat the NYK offer. But that is all we have to go on.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Chicagojk - 12-03-2022
I wouldn’t read anything on anything Jalen says. He isn’t going to give you anything.
This quote hurts though
https://twitter.com/grantafseth/status/1599084447281778693?s=46&t=xlK9NcMYL3mHOm807PznLg
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - KillerLeft - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 11:54 AM)Kammrath Wrote: To me that screams the potential willingness of the Mavs to beat the NYK offer. But that is all we have to go on.
Yeah, so for me, that means almost nothing.
But, right or wrong on this is irrelevant. It's a damn near extinction level event, regardless. We're living with the results right now.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - mvossman - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 11:21 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: And even that makes a little sense. One team needed a (main) PG, the other did not. But DAMN, Woj said it succinctly the other day: A WCF team allowing their 2nd best player to walk for nothing just doesn't really happen.
How about a championship team letting half the team walk for nothing? A strong argument can be made that Cuban decided at that point he was not going to spend like he did before and used the new agreement/plan powder as excuses.
That being said, I am firmly in the camp that believes Brunson was going to NY and there was likely little we could do about it. The mistakes were made with the original contract, not offering the extension (which I'm not sure he would have taken) and not trading him to NY at the TDL.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - KillerLeft - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 12:15 PM)mvossman Wrote: How about a championship team letting half the team walk for nothing? A strong argument can be made that Cuban decided at that point he was not going to spend like he did before and used the new agreement/plan powder as excuses.
Oh, trust me, we've had that conversation 2,000 times. I see it exactly the way you do, and I'll never, ever forgive Cuban for that.
You know who argued for years and years that Tyson Chandler turning down a 1 year, $20 million offer in favor of a multi-year deal in NY constituted him "choosing" to leave? @"Kammrath", that's who.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - KillerLeft - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 12:15 PM)mvossman Wrote: That being said, I am firmly in the camp that believes Brunson was going to NY and there was likely little we could do about it. The mistakes were made with the original contract, not offering the extension (which I'm not sure he would have taken) and not trading him to NY at the TDL.
Yeah, so if you've been reading today, you should know that I believe that, too.
Doesn't change a thing. Still seems that the Mavs had a lower cap in mind (Van Vleet money, as has been outright stated by pretty much every Mavs reporter) than the NY offer, so at the end of the day going to NY, for Brunson, was the correct decision, regardless of how he might've hoped the situation played out beforehand.
And no matter how long we talk about it, the situation won't change. The team lost its 2nd best player, and it's becoming quite clear that he was an even bigger piece of the winning equation on and off the court than even his biggest fans on this board understood. It's one of the worst mistakes I can remember any team making, regardless of where we we want to pinpoint it along the timeline.
It's all the Mavs' fault. Brunson did the right thing for himself, which is his job.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Kammrath - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 12:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: choosing" to leave? @Kammrath, that's who.
He DID choose to leave!
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - KillerLeft - 12-03-2022
(12-03-2022, 12:32 PM)Kammrath Wrote: He DID choose to leave!
![[Image: look-you-see.gif]](https://media.tenor.com/N81t5VG8yCMAAAAC/look-you-see.gif)
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Kammrath - 12-03-2022
https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1599138435524046849
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 12-03-2022
https://twitter.com/calliecaplan/status/1599130764867616768?s=46
“Please come help me more”
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - SkenfromLMF - 12-04-2022
(12-03-2022, 11:54 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Stein saying that "money not the deciding factor" is the closest you are going to get and the Mavs wanting to give a final offer. To me that screams the potential willingness of the Mavs to beat the PHX offer. But that is all we have to go on.
Dammit I am tired of talking about Steve Nash!
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - omahen - 12-04-2022
(2) NBACentral on Twitter: "Report: Dallas Mavericks interested in New York Knicks point guard Derrick Rose https://t.co/iMIoikJiVP" / Twitter
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - dirkfansince1998 - 12-04-2022
(12-04-2022, 01:56 PM)omahen Wrote: (2) NBACentral on Twitter: "Report: Dallas Mavericks interested in New York Knicks point guard Derrick Rose https://t.co/iMIoikJiVP" / Twitter
(2) NBACentral on Twitter: "The Heat are willing to move Kyle Lowry, per @RicBucher https://t.co/5vC5JKEADS" / Twitter
Is there a single rumor that links the Mavs to a player that isn´t in his mid 30s?
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Mavs2021 - 12-04-2022
(12-04-2022, 01:59 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Is there a single rumor that links the Mavs to a player that isn´t in his mid 30s?
Uh no. Sorry.
Some people might theorize that the 14 second shot clock would speed up the game and favour a younger roster and deeper rotations during the regular season, but I´m not one to subscribe to such rudimentary analytics as the average age of players being the lowest in NBA history over the last three years, despite carrying Udonis Haslem´s corpse around. So yay to more old people.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - SwisherPrice - 12-04-2022
They are obsessed with anyone who has ever suited up in a Knicks uniform
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - KillerLeft - 12-04-2022
(12-04-2022, 01:56 PM)omahen Wrote: (2) NBACentral on Twitter: "Report: Dallas Mavericks interested in New York Knicks point guard Derrick Rose https://t.co/iMIoikJiVP" / Twitter
Just bizarre to me that they're basically running through every bargain basement option we floated here, late summer, but only now after the season starts, and they could've had Dragic back when it really mattered so freaking easily.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | 1-5 in last 6 - Kammrath - 12-04-2022
https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1599556059953102848
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | - DanSchwartzgan - 12-06-2022
From Stein today:
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There were just four teams ranked in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency entering Tuesday's play: Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans and Phoenix.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | - BoredAssistant - 12-06-2022
(12-06-2022, 07:49 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: From Stein today:
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There were just four teams ranked in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency entering Tuesday's play: Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans and Phoenix.
Saw this on TNT and posted the same in the nba thread. Whoops.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 10th O | 13th D | 10th Net | 11th in West | - dirkfansince1998 - 12-06-2022
(12-06-2022, 07:49 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: From Stein today:
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There were just four teams ranked in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency entering Tuesday's play: Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans and Phoenix.
With a bigger sample size the next few weeks should tell us where the team is headed. Right now record and team metrics don´t match. 14-9 expected win/loss. 6th in SRS.
Mavs lead the league in clutch games (16) and have a 8-8 record in those.
They only have one double digit loss (-11 vs Boston). Compared to four double digit wins (+43 vs Grizzlies, +28 vs Denver, +21 vs Knicks, +19 vs Suns).
The Mavs blew a couple of leads. Struggled to turn 4th quarter leads into wins. Western conference is still super close so they have enough time to bounce back. I guess the big takeaway is that the margin of error is razor-thin. If the Mavs continue to drop games against teams like Houston or Orlando they are in trouble.