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GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) (/showthread.php?tid=3197) |
RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - BigDirk41 - 05-28-2024 I just feel like Kyrie "the leader" should have had his guys ready tonight and led by example. All night, it just kinda felt like another game. Dallas didn't match their intensity and I'm sure they just thought they would win a close game at the end, but that's never a given. Luka also mentioned that he didn't play with enough energy. Kyrie was the one person on this team that knew what it takes to get to the finals and how important this game was. I just hope this game doesn't come back to bite them. Unfortunately Minnesota is too young and inexperienced to know to give up. They will keep coming and coming until it's over. I fully expect us to win this series still, but it could turn into a dog fight and we really didn't need or want that. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - omahen - 05-29-2024 Well, Mavs lose one and predictably the world is falling apart ![]() RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - EGrant23 - 05-29-2024 Well, that was much more fun than the first three coming from a Wolves fan. It's amazing what happens when your better players can make some shots (and what happens when they don't). With just an hour or so to reflect on game 4, a couple things that I'll be interested to see going into game 5. 1) Minnesota hasn't been a good home team in the last few series. I think there is a letdown when they come back home and probably some additional distractions. Doesn't make sense but that's the way it's been. 2) Kyle Anderson has been a surprise this series. Getting us some needed buckets, but also playing some solid defense on Luka. It's amazing to me that Luka hasn't figure out a way to beat him consistently yet. He also didn't look like his aggressive self tonight and I was super happy to see him pass up a bunch of easy looks to pass it out to teammates. I'd anticipate this was just a mirage and will be change moving forward. 3) I would honesty expect a Mavs game 5 win, but I've learned to not count out this Wolves team. Their play on the court is sometimes mind boggling, immature, and dumb but those some attributes help because they're just too young and inexperienced to know when to give up. 4) There is nothing more that I wanted to see than the Wolves getting some physicality back and playing with aggressiveness. Yes, they're going to take some ridiculously dumb fouls, but if they play that physical over the course of 48, I'll take some of those fouls. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - BigDirk41 - 05-29-2024 I think we'll be fine next game having Lively back. This was just a disappointing loss, but like Omahen said not the end of the world. It's just one loss. The good news is that we had a winnable game playing without Lively. That's huge. I would prefer we not have a game 6 so I really hope they take care of business next game. Gafford played pretty well tonight too. We just need Luka and Kyrie to do what they normally do and we'll be going to the finals for the first time since 2011. Props to Minnesota for not throwing in the towel. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - dirkfansince1998 - 05-29-2024 Called into work 30 minutes before tip off. I guess I didn't miss much. How did the center rotation look without Lively? RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 12:14 AM)EGrant23 Wrote: Well, that was much more fun than the first three coming from a Wolves fan. It's amazing what happens when your better players can make some shots (and what happens when they don't). With just an hour or so to reflect on game 4, a couple things that I'll be interested to see going into game 5. Great, measured and fair thoughts. Kudos. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 06:00 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Called into work 30 minutes before tip off. I guess I didn't miss much. How did the center rotation look without Lively? Gafford actually did better than I expected. It was kind of the opposite of Game 3. Some good moments throughout, but then key errors down the stretch. He gave up a three to Edwards (the dagger) that the whole world could see coming because he was in high drop instead of at the level. Kidd probably should’ve closed with Kleber, frankly, but I felt like Gafford had one of his better games, overall. Kleber was very good, considering it was his first action in some time. His defensive positioning was excellent, and he had a positive effect on the game during his time on the court. He was noticeably either afraid or too uncomfortable to shoot his open threes, passing 2-3 wide open ones up and missing the 1-2 he took. There were a couple of times I thought any other Maverick would have hit the floor going after loose balls when he stayed on his feet… I think he was a little bit rusty and hesitant in those 50/50 ball situations. Powell didn’t play very much at all, but I was pretty disappointed in his time, so that was probably the right call. I don’t think beating the Timberwolves without Dereck Lively is an easy thing at all, and it didn’t seem like the Mavericks came into this one understanding how hard it would be without those 2-3 stretches where Lively causes havoc on both ends. They got killed on the glass, and in the paint, which is a departure from the rest of the series. I think they could possibly close the series out without lively, but it would take someone stepping up and playing above the level they have played in the series, while in this one almost everyone played below the level they had established. Hardy and Exum both looked good, but I was pretty surprised that Kidd extended his rotation in a closeout game, rather than tightening it a little. I was pretty surprised to see Hardy start the fourth and get a significant extension of his court time. Kind of thought that was a mistake, despite him having a good close to the third. Seriously, it’s like Jason Kidd thought the series was over, and it was CRYSTAL clear that Luka and Kyrie thought it was over. I’m sure much will be made of the defensive adjustments on those guys from Minnesota, and I think that did play a significant part, at least in limiting Kyrie Irving, but Luka could’ve scored 20 more points than he did, pretty easily. He passed when he should have shot and shot when he should have passed. Neither of them played worth a piss at all, except for a few amazing moments here or there, which, they accomplish that just by rolling out of bed. Overall, one team didn’t want to get swept, and so did not give up. The other one might’ve been feeling themselves a little too much coming into this one. Hopefully, they wake up ready to play on Thursday and close this thing out. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-29-2024 They better close them out Thursday. If Minnesota wins, it's a series. Not that it never was one despite the 3-0 lead. All the games have been close. Minnesota has had the lead going into the 4th qtr every game. Dallas has just been better down the stretch. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:13 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: They better close them out Thursday. If Minnesota wins, it's a series. Not that it never was one despite the 3-0 lead. All the games have been close. Minnesota has had the lead going into the 4th qtr every game. Dallas has just been better down the stretch. I actually don’t think the games have been very close. The SCORES have been close. I think Dallas significantly outplayed Minnesota in the first three games, and not even in the same way every time, and I think Dallas kind of got their butts kicked in this one. If Dereck Lively doesn’t play again, there is a chance they will lose game 6, but I kind of doubt it. Luka and Kyrie are both killers, and this will piss them off. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 There were two adjustments on Minnesota’s part that seemed significant: 1) McDaniels on Kyrie is a problem. 2) they made the “just play better” adjustment for KAT. Him not being the worst player on the court for either team is a problem. Since they know about both of those things coming into game six, my guess is that Kyrie looks a little bit better, but that really, we will see Luka have a much better game (Edwards guarding him is NOT a problem). Knowing they have to worry about Towns a little bit more will help wake up the defense a little, too, and to be honest, even though he is clearly capable of great things, offensively, he is just as likely to be absolute crap again. I thought Gobert/s physicality was difference making in this one, but again, that is just a matter of getting Dereck Lively back on the court, imo. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Smitty - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:19 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I actually don’t think the games have been very close. The SCORES have been close. (05-29-2024, 08:24 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: There were two adjustments on Minnesota’s part that seemed significant: Already talking about Game 6. I like your style. But in all seriousness, there will be a ton of pressure on the Mavs if there is a Game 6. I’ve been pretty consistent that I thought the Mavs would split at home and the Wolves would win Game 5 at home, after getting a tiny bit of momentum… but then LuKai would shut it down, again, at home. A potential Game 6 would make all of us very nervous though. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:28 AM)Smitty Wrote: Already talking about Game 6. I like your style. But in all seriousness, there will be a ton of pressure on the Mavs if there is a Game 6. In the previous post I meant game five, lol. Six instead of five was just an error, but even then I wouldn’t be panicking. The most significant thing that happened in game four is that lively did not play. Since he is seemingly on his way back soon, I don’t see any sense in worrying. One of the things I think we just learned is how difficult it is to beat the same team four times in a row. When you think about this from Minnesota’s perspective, it’s really hard to imagine them doing that to the Mavericks, and four in a row is what it would take for them to win the series. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Smitty - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:42 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: In the previous post I meant game five, lol. Six instead of five was just an error, but even then I wouldn’t be panicking. The most significant thing that happened in game four is that lively did not play. Since he is seemingly on his way back soon, I don’t see any sense in worrying. Lively not playing was huge. I thought Maxi did well after missing 20+ days. It won’t be a bad thing for him to get more time. The biggest factor in W/L in Game 4 was Kat vs Kyrie though. Kat showed up and Kai did not. It’s simple but it’s true. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - HoosierDaddyKid - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:19 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I actually don’t think the games have been very close. The SCORES have been close. Ok, the scores have been close. To me if the ending scores are close, then despite being throughly outplayed statistically, the only thing that will be remembered is how tight the series was. No casual fan will remember or be concerned about the stats. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - KillerLeft - 05-29-2024 (05-29-2024, 08:55 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Ok, the scores have been close. To me if the ending scores are close, then despite being throughly outplayed statistically, the only thing that will be remembered is how tight the series was. No casual fan will remember or be concerned about the stats. Agreed, but I wasn’t really talking about stats. I just think in the matchup sense, pick and roll genius Luka against a drop coverage team, Minnesota never really had a chance. I expect the Mavs will close in game 5. If not, game 6. Minnesota isn’t beating them four times in a row, I know that. I certainly hope they close soon, so Luka’s knee can get some rest. Not the end of the world for Kleber to get more than one game to knock the rust off, however, Because he is going to be CRUCIAL in the finals. Not having him almost got them eliminated by OKC. Right now, his main utility is that Lively is out, but Boston spreads you out like OKC does. Not having Kleber in that series would be a death sentence, imho. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Chicagojk - 05-29-2024 I think Kyle Anderson has been good in this series. He is a different player but he reminds me of Nic Batum. Two bigger guys who just know how to disrupt things. As we look to fine touch or roster in the upcoming years, these are the types of guys I want to pick up. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Chicagojk - 05-29-2024 I have been blown away how Hardy has been stepping up. Even when he is not making shots, I don't feel like he is sticking out as a negative. At this stage of his career, his good play is typically decided if he is scoring or not. It just says a ton that he is not afraid of the moment and that his teammates know he is not afraid of the moment. Luka is actively looking for him at times. With that being said, I think it was great that Exum had some good minutes last night. I think we need a contingency if/when the moment gets too big for Hardy. Maybe that is next round (if it happens). I wouldn't count out Hardaway either. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - Chicagojk - 05-29-2024 I actually liked the Timberwolves small ball lineup last night. It will be interesting to see if that has legs. I think Lively may be the cheat code to that lineup though. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - michaeltex - 05-29-2024 Lively's absence was a big hole in the rotation. Maxi isn't really suited to fill that hole against Gobert. He was effective a couple years ago vs the Jazz, but then he had enough credibility to pull the defense out to the 3pt line. Last night, Gobert didn't respect his shot enough to follow. Minn seemed to be really fast on their defensive rotations. A lot of shots that looked open when the pass started, were contested by the time the ball got there and I thought some of the attempts looked rushed. Felt like Minn was dictating the game pacing more than the previous 3 games. That's usually where Luka shines in managing the game, but it didn't seem to happen last night. RE: GAME 4 Playoffs 2024: Minnesota Timberwolves (0-3) vs. Dallas Mavericks (3-0) - BigDirk41 - 05-29-2024 Luka has to look to score next game and set the tone. He just wasn't present as a scorer last night. He was way too hesitant. He needs to destroy Kyle Anderson and get McDaniels back onto him so Kyrie can get freed back up. I don't think Kyrie can score efficiently against McDaniels. He's too long and has the speed to stay with Kyrie. They also need to hunt Gobert all game. Lively being back should make all the difference to close this team out. |