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RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Mavs2021 - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 01:49 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Hypermav - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 02:18 PM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1401956054062321667 Luka is on KP island with me now. Not many peoples here, I can see Gilligan and the Skipper. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - omahen - 06-07-2021 https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/washington-wizards/report-washington-wizards-continue-to-monitor-kristaps-porzingis/ RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - ItsGoTime - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 12:46 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: No. In the first 2-3 games Kawhi was guarding KP. Smart move from Lue because the Mavs don´t want to run pick and roll with the guy that Kawhi is guarding. Would be an easy switch. Obviously would be a different story if KP could set "real" screens or punish the mismatch against smaller guys. But based on everything we know that´s not the case and the Luka/KP pick and roll would result in a switch.Look, this has turned into something I didn’t say. I said the teams that were interested in him before the playoffs won’t be scared off of him after, because they can look at how the gameplan minimized what he did. All season he wasn’t all that good at defense, so if they were interested in him before, and he didn’t do well during, it’s a moot point. He was a 20 ppg scorer from the C spot on his best efficiency in his career. Constantly looking at the bad he did isn’t going to change that. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Kammrath - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 03:19 PM)omahen Wrote: https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/washington-wizards/report-washington-wizards-continue-to-monitor-kristaps-porzingis/ Quote:“Kristaps Porzingis, who is reportedly frustrated with his situation in Dallas, is a name to watch,” wrote Chris Crouse of FortyEightMinutes. “The front office continues to monitor Porzingis’ situation, though the price tag will be a major factor in whether or not the Wizards can pull off a deal.” RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - DallasBasketball - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 02:58 PM)Hypermav Wrote: Luka is on KP island with me now. Not many peoples here, I can see Gilligan and the Skipper. I’m with Luka, and I’ve been wondering all season why KP isn’t featured more. But then I think about it like this... did the Bulls feature Scottie Pippen instead of Michael Jordan! No No No! So that’s our dilemma. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - ItsGoTime - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:04 PM)DallasBasketball Wrote: But then I think about it like this... did the Bulls feature Scottie Pippen instead of Michael Jordan! No No No!Huh? No one is asking for RC to feature KP instead of Luka. Scottie got plenty of usage when MJ was in or out of the game. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Kammrath - 06-07-2021 Stole this from @"StrandedOnBeauboisHill"....Vegas Odds for KP trade destinations: Boston +200 Golden State +225 OKC +300 Orlando +400 Washington +500 Chicago +600 Here are the assets and trade matching salaries I have my eyes on from each of those teams to try and build a trade with... BOSTON Smart Fournier (sign and trade) RWIII Nesmith #16 pick GOLDEN STATE Wiggins Wiseman #6 pick OKC Horford #4 pick #18 pick future picks ORLANDO Harris Hampton #3 pick #8 pick WASHINGTON Bertans Bryant Advija Rui #15 pick CHICAGO Vucevic Satoransky Markkanen (sign and trade) P Williams future picks If even three of these teams are interested I feel good about the Mavs position to get something SOLID for KP. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 06-07-2021 are you saying some combo of those assets? or that's the package you want from each team? RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - DallasBasketball - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:14 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Huh? No one is asking for RC to feature KP instead of Luka. Scottie got plenty of usage when MJ was in or out of the game. Let me start at the beginning. I think the whole ‘KP doesn’t fit thing’ stems from our offense being 1 and 4 out or 1 w a roller and 3 out. And if we can run 100 pick n rolls a game we are in our sweet spot. That’s our offense. I believe RC is not wanting to break from that style offense to create action specific to KP at the expense of the system and/or the ball in Luka’s hands. So my point about Pippen is just an analogy. You’re right it misses the mark, because he was a point forward. But all I am trying to say is if you have a Jordan it makes sense that would you not want to take the ball out of his hands. The irony is that you will have to sometimes and the roster has to be developed in order to do that as well. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Kammrath - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:25 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: are you saying some of those assets? or are you saying that's the package you want? I thought I was pretty clear in my post. These are the assets I have my eyes on to try and build a package from. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 06-07-2021 I think GS, Boston, Washington are realistic. OKC only if we want to give them 1st round picks in order to get rid of KP. Orlando makes no sense. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - DallasBasketball - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:22 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Stole this from @"StrandedOnBeauboisHill"....Vegas Odds for KP trade destinations: Thank you for putting together that list. Amazing work. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Kammrath - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:28 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: OKC only if we want to give them 1st round picks in order to get rid of KP. Well Vegas money disagrees with you. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 06-07-2021 lol ok mr vegas A team that just publicly told everyone they're going to rebuild is going to trade for a max player....RIGHT. I forgot rebuilding teams LOVE to trade away top 10 draft picks too. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - Kammrath - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:32 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: lol ok mr vegas OKC is in a tight position: 1) They need to try to turn Horford's salary spot into something else. 2) They have SO many assets that they need to consolidate them so they don't go to waste. KP offers them the opportunity to replace Horford's old man dead money with a young prospect they can rehabilitate into greater value and flip later. I think OKC would be able to increase KP's future trade value a lot by featuring him with their other young players. OKC also cannot possibly sign all of their first round picks every year, so in order to keep those from losing all value they need to bring some of them together into a single asset. Hence KP comes into play. Orlando is desperate, having not been relevant in 11 years basically. They want to build around Fultz and Isaac. Having a player like KP gives them some offense and shooting they are desperately missing. And they might even have the defenders to surround him with. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - ItsGoTime - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:26 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I thought I was pretty clear in my post. These are the assets I have my eyes on to try and build a package from.Yep, the step beyond that would be if other teams are interested in those assets that have the assets we want and are willing to let go of them. Would love it if IND saw some value in a couple players on a certain team's list that is worth trading Turner to us for. Let's say Washington. If they have interest in Rui or Avdija, is that and another piece worth it to them? Avdija and Maxi for Turner and we get the rest of the assets from Washington? RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - StepBackJay - 06-07-2021 Boston +200 Golden State +225 OKC +300 Orlando +400 Washington +500 Chicago +600 These are the odds I think bc the odd-makers I guess are betting on contract dumps. Boston - I know they think Kemba is the guy GSW - Wiggins-based OKC - Horford-based Orlando - Harris-based Wizards - Bertans+ based Chicago - Young/Sato+ based. They don't have any picks to offer but Coby White could be the prize + Young/Sato being good role players. The big thing here is you would get a lot of future cap relief. For the Bulls they would get basically get KP for Coby White. Chicago seems like a weird landing spot considering they couldn't play Lauri and Vucevic together. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - StepBackJay - 06-07-2021 Actually Chicago makes sense bc of the Lauri to Mavs rumor, forgot ab that. Still wouldn't make a ton of sense for Bulls. RE: HOLY KRISTAPS: All Things Porzingis | Would you trade him? - StepBackJay - 06-07-2021 (06-07-2021, 04:39 PM)Kammrath Wrote: OKC is in a tight position: I agree with Kamm on this. OKC has more picks than they need and they can't be drafting first round players forever. I could see them cashing in 2-3 picks + Horford to see what KP has. They can always move him later. He could probably get more shots in OKC as SGA and Dort maybe are the only guys really competing for shots? |