(11-21-2022, 12:05 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: [ -> ]Kings now have a better record than the Mavs
Mavs are only 2 games out of 12th in the West and a puncher's chance at Victor!
This is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever seen. MPJ's foot was on the line. Refs didn't review that? Yet they went out of their way to wave off Luka's buzzer at the half?
Just wow.
(11-20-2022, 11:51 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: [ -> ]The last shot was so bad. Kidd's "offense" is a joke. Remember what the Kings were able to draw up against the Mavs last season with pretty much the same amount of time and the same spot on the floor?
It’s worse than that. I think he probably COULD have come up with something better if they’d had a timeout, but they had to burn their last one immediately after their second to last one, simultaneously, in order to advance the ball because Luka took that dribble. The coach and his star PG weren’t even on the same page about how to handle the late game situation.
(11-21-2022, 01:46 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]This is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever seen. MPJ's foot was on the line. Refs didn't review that? Yet they went out of their way to wave off Luka's buzzer at the half?
Just wow.
I would really like to see that, because Luka was very vocal about it. The TV crew didn't get what he was complaining about. If he was right, it would be extremely unjust, after they got so out of their way for that end of halftime shot.
(11-21-2022, 12:05 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: [ -> ]Don't look now, but them Kings now have a better record than the Mavs
And are on a 6 game heater too. Huerter has been a great pickup.
Great game by Josh. He needs extended minutes every game. It was a little concerning he had a few games where his minutes were down again. That can't happen....especially how the guys he is competing with are currently playing. This is the perfect time due to his play and the others play to stretch him and see how he responds.
Dinwiddie has been frustrating for me this year. He has been good in some games, awful in a few. I thought he would be the most important player (besides the obvious) heading into the season. He is not the connector Jalen was and this team is desperately missing that. Also, I was expecting easier baskets from him. Right now, he is shooting well from three, but I would take a guy who gets easier baskets in the paint over a heavy three point shooter. He has a good feel with Bertans though, so I would like to see that grouping a little more.
The Wood things is really weird. I thought after his last game he deserved a bigger role and the benefit of the doubt. He scored right when he entered the game but than was not in the flow of the offense. I have said this before, but he needs to be the person you run the offense through and not an accessory to Luka ball if you are going to bring him off the bench.
Josh 30 minutes and Tim 20. More of that please. Josh closed both halves.
Powell, McGee and Wood essentially split the 48 minutes at center. There was just a minute where Wood played alongside another big. Part of this was Bertans getting 14 minutes. He and Dorian split 48 minutes, but it isn't as simple as that as there was 6:22 of time where Dorian and Bertans were both on the court together (+11...the Mav's best stretch of the game). We also spent a similar amount of time with a PG, a C and three guards (that stretch didn't go so well...-8).
The lack of minutes for Wood is really inexplicable. I saw a missed rotation where Luka got upset at him, but that’s it. They really had him and Hardaway on a short leash taking them out much earlier than usual in the second quarter. Some of the minutes CW and THJ 'lost' can be attributed to Josh and Bertans being hot. That pair also produced well together in the second half (+9 in their second half overlap minutes. +11 in their first half overlap minutes).
Something that has always stuck with me and is still in the back of my mind...Tim Cato floated the idea that Wood would be flipped. In fact, Cato maintained a good bit of the summer that it could happen before the beginning of the season. He hasn't said it in a while, but it was too random and he said it too many times for it to just be a theory. I've listened to him enough to know that somebody whispered that possibility to him. Take that for what its worth.
I think we’ve missed Maxi. However, he makes the minutes crunch even more severe amongst the bigs.
(11-21-2022, 08:43 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Tim Cato floated the idea that Wood would be flipped
It is only thing that makes sense other than total coaching incompetence. If the Mavs are planning to flip him (Dec 15?) then I would guess they are not wanting the team to get too reliant on him.
But who can they flip him for that would be an improvement in talent and fit??
(11-21-2022, 08:51 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]It is only thing that makes sense other than total coaching incompetence. If the Mavs are planning to flip him (Dec 15?) then I would guess they are not wanting the team to get too reliant on him.
But who can they flip him for that would be an improvement in talent and fit??
Collins? Wood plus Bullock?
(11-21-2022, 08:43 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Josh 30 minutes and Tim 20. More of that please. Josh closed both halves.
Powell, McGee and Wood essentially split the 48 minutes at center. There was just a minute where Wood played alongside another big. Part of this was Bertans getting 14 minutes. He and Dorian split 48 minutes, but it isn't as simple as that as there was 6:22 of time where Dorian and Bertans were both on the court together (+11...the Mav's best stretch of the game). We also spent a similar amount of time with a PG, a C and three guards (that stretch didn't go so well...-8).
The lack of minutes for Wood is really inexplicable. I saw a missed rotation where Luka got upset at him, but that’s it. They really had him and Hardaway on a short leash taking them out much earlier than usual in the second quarter. Some of the minutes CW and THJ 'lost' can be attributed to Josh and Bertans being hot. That pair also produced well together in the second half (+9 in their overlap minutes).
Something that has always stuck with me and is still in the back of my mind...Tim Cato floated the idea that Wood would be flipped. In fact, Cato maintained a good bit of the summer that it could happen before the beginning of the season. He hasn't said it in a while, but it was too random and he said it too many times for it to just be a theory. I've listened to him enough to know that somebody whispered that possibility to him. Take that for what its worth.
I think we’ve missed Maxi. However, he makes the minutes crunch even more severe amongst the bigs.
I have read this on here numerous times...the idea of Wood being flipped and dont get attached to Wood...
So...someone please correct me if I am out of touch with reality...but does that not lead an outsider like myself to think Mavs have a target in mind? Not a couple of guys...but a specific target? If these murmurings have any legs...it makes me think Mavs must have an agreement with a player they like and that wants to come here.
Why wouldn’t we win with him while he’s here anyway? Wouldn’t him playing at an allstar level or close up his value in a flip?
(11-21-2022, 09:38 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]Why wouldn’t we win with him while he’s here anyway? Wouldn’t him playing at an allstar level or close up his value in a flip?
It doesnt make sense does it?
Are they attempting to hide major flaws? What are they if they are floor oriented?
I dont buy the "flexing our 2nd unit depth" to the League excuse being used to defend Kidd.
(11-21-2022, 08:56 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Collins? Wood plus Bullock?
In a heartbeat, please! A dream scenario from my seat, but frankly I do not trust the Mavs leadership right now.
(11-21-2022, 09:59 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]In a heartbeat, please! A dream scenario from my seat, but frankly I do not trust the Mavs leadership right now.
I dont know about this one. Can you all please convince a casual?
I have no doubt Collins is a good fit for the team and the Luka-effect will make him look better than on the Hawks...but I see it as marginal upgrade while giving away 2 solid rotation players. One who we dont know his potential with Luka in Wood...the other who is for sure Playoff playable 3andD player in Bullock.
I guess Wood isnt part of the plans here?
I’d rather see spot minutes from Frank than watch Hardaway play at this point. It’s getting beyond bad. You don’t put up with 6 bad shooting games from a player for 1 good one. Especially when he has to disrupt the offense to find out if he’s shooting well that night.
I wish we could see stats around the number of times a bricked three pointer from Hardaway with more than 14 seconds on the clock has led to 5-0 and 6-0 runs. It’s so painful to watch.
(11-21-2022, 10:06 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: [ -> ]I dont know about this one. Can you all please convince a casual?
I have no doubt Collins is a good fit for the team and the Luka-effect will make him look better than on the Hawks...but I see it as marginal upgrade while giving away 2 solid rotation players. One who we dont know his potential with Luka in Wood...the other who is for sure Playoff playable 3andD player in Bullock.
I guess Wood isnt part of the plans here?
I like the idea of Collins but in the same vein that I like the idea of Wood. I feel like they are similar front court tweeners so I don’t know if he would get through Kidds reluctance to play him. He does seem like a better defender and maybe more fit to guard wings so maybe he would have more trust from the coaching staff.
I’m ok with either Bullock or Hardaway being moved because I trust Josh Green fully at this point. Probably can’t move both this season but you can certainly get away with moving one.
(11-21-2022, 10:08 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: [ -> ]I’d rather see spot minutes from Frank than watch Hardaway play at this point. It’s getting beyond bad. You don’t put up with 6 bad shooting games from a player for 1 good one. Especially when he has to disrupt the offense to find out if he’s shooting well that night.
I wish we could see stats around the number of times a bricked three pointer from Hardaway with more than 14 seconds on the clock has led to 5-0 and 6-0 runs. It’s so painful to watch.
Someone mentioned last week (I can't remember who) that they would rather have Dragic at the minimum than this current version of Hardaway. I think that is absolutely correct how Hardaway is playing. Our Front office can't make these type of mistakes. Now we have Hardaway and McGee looking like multiyear anchors where minimum replacements may provide better value. They better hope Hardaway play improves. But even if it does, I can't see a team very interested in taking him back at multiple year. Than it gets whether we allow him to be a progress stopper the next two years.
(11-21-2022, 08:56 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: [ -> ]I have read this on here numerous times...the idea of Wood being flipped and dont get attached to Wood...
So...someone please correct me if I am out of touch with reality...but does that not lead an outsider like myself to think Mavs have a target in mind? Not a couple of guys...but a specific target? If these murmurings have any legs...it makes me think Mavs must have an agreement with a player they like and that wants to come here.
I can’t recall if it was Stein or someone else national, but someone said they were nearly certain Collins would be traded before the beginning of the season. That didn’t happen either. Given how Atlanta uses (or misuses) Collins and how much he makes, it seems like a Wood based deal might have been the target.
It is connecting dots for sure. The question is what does the rest of the deal look like. You have to get to $18.72mm to match Collins, so it has to be Wood and a fairly high dollar guy. Atlanta doesn’t need Powell or McGee. They probably could use a guy like Reggie as additional wing depth to replace Holiday. Dallas would need to take back a salary in such a deal. Collins plays almost exclusively at PF, so we could probably put that whole debate to rest if he were traded here.
(11-21-2022, 10:32 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Given how Atlanta uses (or misuses) Collins and how much he makes, it seems like a Wood based deal might have been the target.
Wood is basically same player as Collins so I don't see much value for Atlanta, other than getting out of Collins salary. But I don't think that is their goal. They would want to get better. One thing Atlanta could use is a good two way wing. Someone like Durant
If Atlanta coveted Wood that much, they could have easily traded for him using Collins. I am fairly certain their eyes are set to way higher goals with Collins.
(11-21-2022, 10:32 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]Collins plays almost exclusively at PF
Collins main weapon is PnR and his odd fit in Atlanta comes from a fact that he is playing next to a center that can do just one thing - PnR. So, something that basically wouldn't make sense in Dallas either.
Flipping Wood idea seems strange as his trade value is not high. Anyone that covet Wood that much, could have easily traded for him. The one value he does bring is that he is an expiring contract. But Mavs don't really have the assets for the big move before summer. Also, even before Wood, Mavs had like 30 mil of expiring salary in Powell, Bullock and guys that were traded for Wood (plus the pick). So Wood doesn't really improve that situation much.
I think the only thing that really makes sense is - lets take a flyer on him. If he works, great. If not, we use his expiring for something else or just let him walk to save some money.