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THE GANG GETS BACK TOGETHER WITH A WIN IN LOUD CITY

The Mavericks begin the new year with a match in OKC. Dallas welcomes back Luka, THJ, and Maxi, who have all exited protocols. Kidd says the three will be on minutes limits for this one.  The list of Mavs absences includes Burke, Boban, Willie, McLaughlin, and Thomas. KP is also out for a rest game.  OKC has several players out, including SGA and Lu Dort. 

OKC is widely assumed to be playing for draft picks, and the Mavs are favorites for a stomp. 

The Mavs managed a relatively comfortable win, despite shaking off some rust. The emergency rosters were fun, but it is good to get back to lineups that we have some chance of actually seeing again. An unexpectedly entertaining match!


GAME NOTES

Starting lineup     Luka-Brunson-Bullock-Maxi-Powell

This is a new lineup that hasn’t yet played together this season. Luka and Brunson are both in the starting lineup for just the third time this season. 

FIRST QUARTER

Brunson looks off Luka calling for the ball, and the possession ends in a turnover and Thunder score in transition. Yikes. 

THJ misses his first 3PTA, but later scores an and-one on a drive to the basket. Mavs appear to have Brunson running the offense during this first stretch with Luka.

10-9 6:59

Mavs look like they’re encouraging a lot of ball movement by DFS and THJ during this Luka-less stretch. -- Luka returns from his mid-first quarter rest with 2:00 left in the frame. -- Brown-Brown connection on a Sterling-Mo alley oop. 

26-22 after one

Mavs recovered from a six-point deficit to lead by four. Game appears to be pretty evenly balanced thus far. Brunson and Timmy lead the charge  for Dallas with six points each. Reggie, Tim, and Mo all played more minutes than Maxi or Powell. We’ll see if that continues to play out. 

SECOND QUARTER

Marquese Chriss hits from range! THJ has a good look from the sideline, but passes to Maxi for an even better shot from distance. Boom! In she goes. Mavs pulling away here. 

38-29 7:15

THJ hits a contested three while he’s falling down. Woot. -- Dorian blasts past his defender and posterizes a young Thunder. But, a foul is called on on the floor before the shot, no basket. This would be a lovely time to be able to decline the foul, NFL-style, as it disallows an exciting basket and results in no free throws. — Kleber with a flashy block of Ty Jerome, resulting in another slam from Doe-Doe.  OKC experiencing a scoring drought of over 3 minutes. 

47-34 2:05

Luka drives to the basket, scores, runs back with a big grin on his face. The Luka-Powell combo is active tonight. 

51-39 HT

Mavs win the second quarter 25-17, boasting a 16-7 advantage in rebounds. Chriss had 7 points in the period. 

For the half, Mavs shooting 47%, with 3PTA constituting less than half of the attempts. Dallas has an advantage of 24-16 in PIP. Timmy leading the team in scoring with 9 points. Mavs looking good. The single best moment might have been that dazzling Luka smile. Great to see our regular guys on the floor again. 

THIRD QUARTER

Dorian explodes with a crossover for a flush. — Dorian just keeps driving and dunking. — Brunson tries to take a charge, very unhappy over a dubious blocking call. -- DFS makes the first of his 7 three-point attempts. 

61-52 6:23

Thunder making a push. 

61-57 4:50

Chriss with a nifty shot under the basket. — Brunson from the top of the key with a hand in his face. — Great save-in by Josh Green, possession ends with a three. — Maledon excites the crowd with a showy transition bucket which was aggressively defended by Chriss. 

73-64 after three

Thunder drew within three, but the Mavs quickly rebuilt their cushion. Dorian has 8 of Dallas' 22 points in the period. OKC shoots 50%, going 8-12 in the paint. 

FOURTH QUARTER

Chriss with another three. Wow. — Now, Chriss tips in a Luka miss. Good stuff. — THJ with a jump hook. — Chriss hits ANOTHER three. OMG! — Luka one-legged fadeaway!  

85-72 6:14

Powell hits a corner three from Maxi! That puts him at 11-27 (41%) for the season, making him one of the team's best shooters percentage-wise (!), albeit on very low volume. 

88-78 4:17

Thunder draw within four in the last minute, but Maxi hits a dagger from Luka! 

95-86 FT


ANALYSIS

The Mavs had a respectable team shooting line tonight, at 45/36/71. They did a good job of defending without fouling, with no one called for more than three, although tbf the game was loosely officiated, and the teams combined for only 16 FTA. Dallas lost 14 points on an uncharacteristically high 16 turnovers, but I think we can attribute that to trying to assimilate the returning players. 


PLAYER NOTES

Returning Mavs 

When Josh Green and Reggie exited protocols, the Mavs held them out for a game to give them a chance to recover some of their conditioning. The team elected to go in a different direction with Luka, Tim, and Maxi, putting them in right out of the gate and relying on a minutes limit to ease them back. It was explained that the players were not allowed to come to the facility for conditioning drills until they had turned in two consecutive negative tests, which was only a couple of days before the game, and they are finishing their conditioning on the fly. 

By and large, this appeared to be a decent strategy, particularly against the young Thunder. They all started fresh, but by the fourth quarter, were visibly winded to one degree or another. Still, very good for the first game back from COVID. 

DONCIC (31 min). Everyone’s eyes were on the young star, and he did not disappoint. He is not fully in condition yet, and he admitted that he was so gassed that it hurt to breathe, but that didn’t stop him from almost achieving a triple-double (14-9-10) in short minutes (by his standards). According to Kidd, he was not able to rehab his ankle as much as they had hoped, and there was a disquieting moment when he tripped over Powell’s foot and seemed like he might have hurt it again, but he was able to stay in the game with a few grimaces.  He said after the match that he has been advised that his ankle will probably be sore for the rest of the season, but that it is improved since the last time he was on the court. 

Kidd was very pleased with Luka’s performance. Said that after several weeks out, Luka is getting his “feels” back, and attributed his 7 turnovers to that. The coach thought he did an excellent job of setting up his teammates and rebounding. 

HARDAWAY (24). Timmy co-led the team in scoring with 15 points, despite playing only 24 minutes.  He employed a variety of scoring approaches, and made some key passes. It seemed to me that he was consciously trying to avoid being a black hole, moving the ball along even in some cases when he might have had a shot. He came off the bench, but was included in the closing lineup in place of Powell. He admitted to being short of breath, and did not recommend the COVID experience. Was bedridden for three straight days, and started to improve on Christmas Eve. Thinks it will take him a few days to get back to normal. 

KLEBER (24). Maxi was included in the starting lineup, but was successfully kept to his time limit, with 24 minutes. He had 9 points, with all of his attempts being threes. His shots were timely and impactful, including the dagger that sealed the game. 

Old Stalwarts

DFS (30). Dorian had ten points and eight boards, and exhibited some ferocious energy. He was 4-13 from the floor (1-8 from three), but the shots he did make all had an excitement factor. 

BRUNSON (29). It looked like they had Jalen running point until the fourth quarter, and there were a few hiccups, but he and Luka looked remarkably coherent for not having played together in over three weeks. JB had 12 points and 7 assists, and interestingly, took only one 3PTA. Kidd says that the team is taking a look at the Luka-Brunson starting lineup now, so we should see more of the tandem at least for a while and possibly for the season.  

BULLOCK (27). Reggie had only six points, but he was reasonably efficient, taking only 5 shots and completing 2. More importantly, he had some strong defensive plays and led the bench in minutes. 

POWELL (25). Dwight was one of the few players with extra minutes tonight, as KP was out for load management. He had 9 points (including a corner three) and 5 boards, and his lob threat was important for Luka. I know it is dangerous to say anything positive about Powell, but I thought he did a pretty good job on the night. 

Others

CHRISS (14). Marquese was a wonder, playing on his second ten-day contract. He was the co-leader with THJ in points, with 15 off the bench. This was on 6-9 shooting, including a perfect 3-3 from three! He also had a bench-high 7 boards, and was called for only 3 fouls. Kidd says he has been impressed with Chriss, and thought Cuban would put him under consideration for a roster spot. He liked Chriss’ chemistry with Luka (while also claiming that Luka has good chemistry with anyone who can catch the ball), and thinks the former lottery pick’s vertical threat was helpful to Doncic. 

Josh Green (17) got some substantial run, and put up two points and three rebounds. Sterling (10) didn’t score, or even take a shot, but had 3 boards and 2 dimes, and drew some praise from the Bally sports crew. Moses Brown had 3 points in 7 minutes as the third center. 

Pinson appeared for 12 seconds. Frank was activated, but did not play, possibly due to his continuing thigh bruise. The only ten-days remaining on the roster are Pinson, Chriss, and Isaiah Thomas, who is still in protocols. 

Thunder

Australian sensation Josh Giddey treated his home fans to a brilliant night, as he became the youngest player in NBA history to achieve a triple-double (17-14-13). He was great fun to watch, and I’m sure we’ll be seeing more of him as his career rolls along. Three other Thunders were in double figures, including Ty Jerome, Aaron Wiggins, and former Mav Isaiah Roby. This Thunder team has a very boyish look (not in a bad way), and I doubt if they shed many crocodile tears over the loss. 


OBSERVATIONS

Kidd was proud of the performance, being particularly pleased that they succeeded in keeping the returning players' minutes down. Thought the returning players all looked good, considering it was their first game back, and he liked the energy provided by the bench. He also felt okay with the 3-2 road trip, considering all the adversities they faced.


I thought this game might be clunky and boring, but it turned out to be pretty interesting to watch, considering that it was such a low-scoring affair, with the young Thunder adding to the show. It may have been a little closer than was completely comfortable, with the scoreline within 4 in the last minute, but the Mavs never looked in real danger of losing. A big part of the fascination was not so much the match itself, but seeing how the coaching staff is setting up the various roles with almost a full complement of players back. 

A feel-good win, for sure, and it’s great to see the team coming back together. 


NEXT. There's no time to let the grass grow, as the Mavs will face the Nuggets on Monday back at the AAC, where they will hope to extend their two-game winning streak. 
(01-02-2022, 10:45 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]According to Kidd, [Doncic] was not able to rehab his ankle as much as they had hoped, and there was a disquieting moment when he tripped over Powell’s foot and seemed like he might have hurt it again, but he was able to stay in the game with a few grimaces.  He said after the match that he has been advised that his ankle will probably be sore for the rest of the season, but that it is improved since the last time he was on the court.

Thanks for the insight.  Huh
(01-02-2022, 10:45 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]CHRISS (14).

Kidd says he has been impressed with Chriss, and thought Cuban would put him under consideration for a roster spot. 
 
Is this an accurate quote?  If so...what job does Nico hold?  I thought this kind of stuff was Nico's job...with input from Kidd and others.  I could be wrong...
(01-03-2022, 02:40 AM)ballsrchr Wrote: [ -> ] 
Is this an accurate quote?  If so...what job does Nico hold?  I thought this kind of stuff was Nico's job...with input from Kidd and others.  I could be wrong...
Wow, sharp eyes, I hadn't even focused on that!

I didn't go back and re-listen, but iirc the expanded quote was to this effect --
    
     Marquese has been great. We already have so many centers that I can't play them all, but Mark says we'll have some decisions to make, and Chriss will make it tough. 
 

I don't think he really meant to be making a statement about the relative roles of Nico and Mark, but who knows, lol?
This had a bit of a pre-season feel too it, so it is difficult to take too much away from this.

With that said, there were some periods of time with a lineup I really liked.  It was Green and Chriss together with Bullock and THJ.  Some of the time Luka was part of the group, some of the time Brunson was there and for about a minute and a half there wasn't a PG at all.  There was another segment that had S. Brown instead of Hardaway, but I liked the version with THJ as he provides a bit more spacing and a greater offensive threat.

The segments with Green, Chriss, Bullock and THJ were +5 to start the second and a +9 run from the end of the third through the first few minutes of the fourth.  This is against the OKC bench, so don't get too excited, but the theory of that foursome makes sense to me.

I find it interesting that Chriss has been used almost exclusively in single-big lineups.  He's played most of his career as a PF, but I only see three minutes of him on the floor with any of KP, Powell, Kleber or Moses.  He's shown he can rim run and in a very limited sample, hit a three.  If that is real, why couldn't he and Maxi share PF duties with a few minutes of small-ball four from DFS?  It is easy to focus on his O, especially on a night where he hits three 3's.  But, he has the lowest D-Rating on the team and the highest TRB% also.   At the very least he's got to stay on the roster.  I get wanting to hang onto the WCS salary for trade matching purposes.  Personally, I'm OK if Moses has to be sacrificed (though I'd rather do a WCS included deal in the next few days before the Chriss 10-day runs out).  The Moses perimeter D is Boban-esqe as his lateral quickness is just terrible.  He does some nice things around the rim and brings good energy. but even OKC just put him in isolation against a guard on several occasions in his limited minutes and just embarrassed him.  Chriss must stay.
(01-03-2022, 08:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]With that said, there were some periods of time with a lineup I really liked.  It was Green and Chriss together with Bullock and THJ.  Some of the time Luka was part of the group, some of the time Brunson was there and for about a minute and a half there wasn't a PG at all.


That lineup was a key takeaway for me as well. Good energy. It's also your projected bench if Brunson starts. Green, THJ, Bullock & Chriss/Kleber along with one of Brunson or Luka.

Green is a bit of a knuckleballer out there. He still makes a lot of mistakes and there are times I wish he would just spot up in the corner after a cut but his movement really changes things up. He finds his way to unusual spots on the floor. He does a great job sacrificing himself with movement, to create lanes for other guys. 

It also occurred to me that Kidd might be trying to turn him into a point guard. His handle needs work, but it makes some sense, especially if you're starting Brunson. Kidd seems to have history with - and affinity for - big PG projects who can't shoot. Something to keep an eye on.
(01-03-2022, 09:54 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]That lineup was a key takeaway for me as well. Good energy. It's also your projected bench if Brunson starts. Green, THJ, Bullock & Chriss/Kleber along with one of Brunson or Luka.

Green is a bit of a knuckleballer out there. He still makes a lot of mistakes and there are times I wish he would just spot up in the corner after a cut but his movement really changes things up. He finds his way to unusual spots on the floor. He does a great job sacrificing himself with movement, to create lanes for other guys. 

It also occurred to me that Kidd might be trying to turn him into a point guard. His handle needs work, but it makes some sense, especially if you're starting Brunson. Kidd seems to have history with - and affinity for - big PG projects who can't shoot. Something to keep an eye on.

I don’t know about him becoming a PG, but they are certainly starting to run plays when he initiates the action.  Kidd does the same with Frank and Sterling too and neither is a traditional PG either.  Green’s floor time is almost always positive, so something good happens when he plays despite his shortcomings.  I hope his role/minutes continue to grow as the upside seems to be there if he can keep his confidence by not being asked to do too much too quickly.
(01-02-2022, 10:45 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Kidd says that the team is taking a look at the Luka-Brunson starting lineup now, so we should see more of the tandem at least for a while and possibly for the season.  


Biggest news of the night.

It's not surprising at all that Brunson is getting moved to the starting lineup, as he's clearly a starting-caliber player and one of our top-3. I understand that it may require some adjustments for how the lineup operates because of how Luka is so ball-dominant, but the time to figure that out is now.

As a very early sample, I really liked Kidd's rotation with those two guys. They both started the game, but Luka was the first guy to rest and they largely alternated on/off before closing the half together again. That seems like just the right balance to me to play the best players at the most important times while also letting each guy run the show for a while. It did raise an interesting new lineup twist with the couple of minutes with neither guy, though. While the team did surprisingly well, if they could add Dragic I think they'd be set.

The next step will be to figure out the rest of the starting lineup that best compliments those two. I think Brunson/Luka/DFS/____ /KP is the recipe, and it comes down to who fills that 5th spot. Powell? Maxi? THJ? Bullock?  Personally I want to see Bullock get some extended run to focus on the wing defense to balance the offensive-minded backcourt. But I also would love to be a fly on the wall for any trade discussions right now to find that last piece.
I shouldn't say Green is being developed as a point guard, at least not in the traditional sense. I mean more of a lead guard i.e. a guy who can bring the ball up and initiate the offense without Luka, Brunson or Burke on the floor. 

Kidd hasn't used Ntilikina without Luka, Brunson or Burke very often. Ntilikina almost always plays with Brunson and I can find only 7 minutes he's played without another PG all season.

It's as if you have Ntilikina, a point guard, being developed to play off the ball as a 2/3 ... and Green, a wing, getting a look on the ball over the last couple of games.
(01-03-2022, 11:33 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: [ -> ]It's as if you have Ntilikina, a point guard, being developed to play off the ball as a 2/3 ... and Green, a wing, getting a look on the ball over the last couple of games.


It does sound sort of counter-intuitive based on positional expectations when they were drafted. But if you were to hide the names on the jerseys, I'd definitely argue that Green has more of the "it" factor with his passing and Ntilikina looks like the guard version of DFS. So it makes sense to me.
Speaking of DFS, he seems to be doing a lot of driving and playmaking as well. At the beginning of the season, it was like, "nooooo..." but now he's actually fairly successful at it.

It's like Kidd looked at the roster, saw that we didn't have enough players who could create their own shot or for others, and said, "Let's just teach everyone, and give them the confidence, to playmake once in a while." I think that's a big part of why the team looks so much more promising, and why I welched on my "I'm done with this roster" edict. If we sign Chriss the rest of the year, I may actually be something close to content for the time being. As long as KP doesn't get a season-ender....
(01-03-2022, 08:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]This had a bit of a pre-season feel too it, so it is difficult to take too much away from this.

With that said, there were some periods of time with a lineup I really liked.  It was Green and Chriss together with Bullock and THJ.  Some of the time Luka was part of the group, some of the time Brunson was there and for about a minute and a half there wasn't a PG at all.  There was another segment that had S. Brown instead of Hardaway, but I liked the version with THJ as he provides a bit more spacing and a greater offensive threat.

The segments with Green, Chriss, Bullock and THJ were +5 to start the second and a +9 run from the end of the third through the first few minutes of the fourth.  This is against the OKC bench, so don't get too excited, but the theory of that foursome makes sense to me.

I find it interesting that Chriss has been used almost exclusively in single-big lineups.  He's played most of his career as a PF, but I only see three minutes of him on the floor with any of KP, Powell, Kleber or Moses.  He's shown he can rim run and in a very limited sample, hit a three.  If that is real, why couldn't he and Maxi share PF duties with a few minutes of small-ball four from DFS?  It is easy to focus on his O, especially on a night where he hits three 3's.  But, he has the lowest D-Rating on the team and the highest TRB% also.   At the very least he's got to stay on the roster.  I get wanting to hang onto the WCS salary for trade matching purposes.  Personally, I'm OK if Moses has to be sacrificed (though I'd rather do a WCS included deal in the next few days before the Chriss 10-day runs out).  The Moses perimeter D is Boban-esqe as his lateral quickness is just terrible.  He does some nice things around the rim and brings good energy. but even OKC just put him in isolation against a guard on several occasions in his limited minutes and just embarrassed him.  Chriss must stay.

I have liked what I have seen from Chriss.   He has made some really feel passes too.   If he continues his impressive play, it will be interesting to see what happens.   I am not sold on his three point shooting, but he did make three last night.   The form looks a little dicey.  

WCS has been gone for over a month.   If they keep him around without giving an update hoping to use his salary in a trade, I will be disappointed.   

I would like to see Chris play with KP and Luka.   Spread the floor.   Have Chriss Rim run.  KP cuts from the perimeter and see how this looks.   Maybe Luka, KP, Chris, Bullock and Sterling Brown/Brunson???  I am tempted to say Josh Green but his lack of shooting may clog things up.
(01-03-2022, 01:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: [ -> ]I have liked what I have seen from Chriss.   He has made some really feel passes too.   If he continues his impressive play, it will be interesting to see what happens.   I am not sold on his three point shooting, but he did make three last night.   The form looks a little dicey.  

WCS has been gone for over a month.   If they keep him around without giving an update hoping to use his salary in a trade, I will be disappointed.   

I would like to see Chris play with KP and Luka.   Spread the floor.   Have Chriss Rim run.  KP cuts from the perimeter and see how this looks.   Maybe Luka, KP, Chris, Bullock and Sterling Brown/Brunson???  I am tempted to say Josh Green but his lack of shooting may clog things up.

I'm also interested in Chriss. Don't they have a 2-way slot open? Is that a path to a longer tryout before cutting someone to make space? At this point he could basically spend the rest of the season with the NBA squad.
(01-03-2022, 02:42 PM)michaeltex Wrote: [ -> ]Don't they have a 2-way slot open?


Chriss is not eligible for a two way, unfortunately
(01-03-2022, 11:26 AM)Tyler Wrote: [ -> ]Biggest news of the night.

It's not surprising at all that Brunson is getting moved to the starting lineup, as he's clearly a starting-caliber player and one of our top-3. I understand that it may require some adjustments for how the lineup operates because of how Luka is so ball-dominant, but the time to figure that out is now.

As a very early sample, I really liked Kidd's rotation with those two guys. They both started the game, but Luka was the first guy to rest and they largely alternated on/off before closing the half together again. That seems like just the right balance to me to play the best players at the most important times while also letting each guy run the show for a while. It did raise an interesting new lineup twist with the couple of minutes with neither guy, though. While the team did surprisingly well, if they could add Dragic I think they'd be set.

The next step will be to figure out the rest of the starting lineup that best compliments those two. I think Brunson/Luka/DFS/____ /KP is the recipe, and it comes down to who fills that 5th spot. Powell? Maxi? THJ? Bullock?  Personally I want to see Bullock get some extended run to focus on the wing defense to balance the offensive-minded backcourt. But I also would love to be a fly on the wall for any trade discussions right now to find that last piece.

It would make a lot of sense to add a backup PG like Dragic, but I think when Luka and Brunson are fully healthy you can start both and still stagger them so that there is always one on the court.  

As for the 5th starter spot, I feel like it has to be a defensive minded player.  Given Luka's size, strength and mobility level, I think of him more of a forward than a guard defensively.  Ironically the perfect fit for that 5th spot is the guy the Mavs have been looking for for years.  A point of attack defender who can make an occasional 3 and help facilitate the offense.  The idealized version of Wright/JRich which never materialized.  Alex Caruso would have been a good fit and he was available last offseason for just the MLE.  From our current pool of potential starters, Bullock probably makes the most sense.  He is not really a point of attack defender but he is a big upgrade from THJ.  Honestly the best fit on the team is probably Frank if he keeps up his level of play, but I don't see them doing that.
(01-03-2022, 02:53 PM)mvossman Wrote: [ -> ]A point of attack defender who can make an occasional 3 and help facilitate the offense.


Fingers crossed that FN or JG become exactly this.
(01-03-2022, 03:08 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]Fingers crossed that FN or JG become exactly this.

via GIPHY

(01-02-2022, 10:45 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]DONCIC (31 min). Everyone’s eyes were on the young star, and he did not disappoint. He is not fully in condition yet, and he admitted that he was so gassed that it hurt to breathe, but that didn’t stop him from almost achieving a triple-double (14-9-10) in short minutes (by his standards). According to Kidd, he was not able to rehab his ankle as much as they had hoped, and there was a disquieting moment when he tripped over Powell’s foot and seemed like he might have hurt it again, but he was able to stay in the game with a few grimaces.  He said after the match that he has been advised that his ankle will probably be sore for the rest of the season, but that it is improved since the last time he was on the court. 


@"Kammrath", looks like this is a quote from Luka's post game comments