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MAVERICKS WITH ANOTHER LATE COLLAPSE

The Mavericks originally hoped this game would be the much-anticipated first match against their former coach Rick Carlisle; however, Rick had tested positive for COVID and was unable to present himself on the bench. Nevertheless, the show went on, and he reportedly delivered lengthy, detailed instructions to assistant coach Lloyd Pierce on how to deep-six his former players. Dallas put up a pretty good fight for three quarters, but scored only 13 points in the fourth. Sigh. 


GAME NOTES

Sterling Brown (foot) and Willie (personal reasons) were still out. We may have hoped to catch the Pacers at a vulnerable time, as they been the subject of numerous rebuild rumors lately, although Stein said the league has expressed a fair degree of skepticism about that. At any rate, rebuilding opponent or no, Kidd steadfastly continued with his latest effort at a regular starting lineup— Luka-Bullock-DFS-KP-Powell. 

FIRST QUARTER

Luka starts with a defensive play — a deflection. Results in a late-clock rushed three which is missed by the Pacers. Then Luka drives the lane for a basket. KP with a long three! Powell blocks a transition dunk on what looked like a sure Pacers score! Powell OR results in another KP three! KP challenge on Duarte. . . . KP takes advantage of a lucky bounce for a put back on what looked like an empty possession. . . .KP tries to challenge shot, called for his first foul.  10-8 6:51

Pacers tie the game with free throws. Brunson with a leaner from the baseline! Pacers get an OR, but Mavs force a shot clock violation. Luka scores against the league’s leading shot blocker. Mavs making subs, Moses Brown checking in. Sabonis has gone to the bench with two fouls. . . . Luka rolling his eyes over a travel call. Luka answers a Turner three with a drive. . . . .Brunson off the window. …. Moses runs the floor for a slam from Luka! 20-17 2:22

Luka hits two freebies…Brunson over Lamb. Brogdon three, resulting from two ORs. Luka draws a reach-in on a drive, hits both FTs. 

26-22 after one

Mavs shoot 57%, Pacers 37%, Indy is 2-11 from three. Only 4 Mavs have scored (Luka 10, KP 8, Brunson 6, Moses 2). Turner leads Indy with 7 points. 

SECOND QUARTER

Tim puts one in off a KP screen. Then gets a steal and score…A lot of these Mavs players fighting double teams, without Luka on the floor. Maxi draws a foul off a kick-out, makes both FTAs…KP posts up, hits off the window…Maxi has missed some very good kick-outs…Josh Green in for Dallas. Pacers take lead. Brissett then steals and scores. 34-38 7:28

KP fights for a put back. LaVert and Martin with b2b threes. Jalen drive…Green to the hole. 40-44 5:42

Mavs force a back-court violation out of the Pacers timeout…Luka called for another foul, does not appreciate it one bit…Luka overpowers Duarte on a back-down…Luka downcourt pass to a running THJ…KP for a baseline cut from Luka!…Mavs take the lead on a Luka two-for-one. Turner answers with a three. 

54-56 HT

Mavs lose second quarter 28-34.
 
KP (18) and Luka (16) still the only starters to score. Brunson and Tim combine for 16 off the bench. Three Pacers in double figures. Mavs shooting 55%, but are 2-13 from three, with both treys completed by KP. Dallas has given up 9 offensive rebounds, 10 second-chance points, and 8 threes. Only 12 of their 23 made baskets have been assisted. 

THIRD QUARTER

Luka drills a three late in the clock. Turner makes it 9 threes for Indy from the corner. — Sabonis waltzes unguarded to the cup. — Another score at the rim for Sabonis leads to a Dallas timeout. 59-65 8:22

Powell and-one, third foul on Sabonis, misses free throw but it goes out off Indy. Luka goes to the basket, four point possession, but Luka is hurt. Limping down the court. Stays out there. Sabonis scores over Powell. — Sabonis with another flush in transition. Brunson beats the shot clock. But the Mavs give up an easy one to Indiana. Sabonis finally misses against THJ. Then Tim hits over Domantas! Luka stripped, Mavs called for a foul on Sabonis, who hits both FTs. JB draws a foul. Frankie checks in, Brunson slices down the lane. — Moses and-one! Woo-hoo! — Timmy attacks the basket, gives Dallas the lead on a 7-0 run. — Turner with a slam. DFS draws a foul. 74-75 2:11

Dorian takes the lead back with two free throws. Sabonis can’t hit over KP. KP draws a foul, two of two. Hardaway runs the floor off a rebound and hands off to Brunson for a bucket. Sabonis scores over the Mavs at the rim. Lavert three ends the quarter. 

80-82 after three

Mavs shooting very well inside, but are 3-19 (15%) from three. Sabonis has 21 points, 9-13. Luka with 23 for Dallas. 

FOURTH QUARTER

Sabonis just killing us inside. Draws a foul against a KP-MK double-team. One of two. KP misses at the rim — aargh. Brissett with a put-back. MK misses a late-clock contested jumper. Martin scores off a third-chance opportunity. Rebound, guys! Pacers on a 12-0 run.  80-87 10:11

ATO Luka-Powell oop! — THJ corner three! 85-87 9:11

Luka in the paint ties the game! Martin left alone for a three. Successive turnovers by Dallas and Indy, Pacers foul to stop the fast break. Luka with a runner! Teams exchange four empty possessions, then Brogdon scores at the cup. Luka’s shot rims out. He is called for his fourth foul, shakes his head down the court. Indiana misses a three but the rebound goes off Dallas. LaVert airball over Powell. DFS called for a travel. Brogdon rocks to the basket. Mavs miss two threes, get two offensive boards, and Jalen draws a foul. But Brunson misses the late three. LaVert short pull-up. Indy on a 9-2 run. 89-96 3:58

Mavs have Luka-Brunson-DFS-Hardaway-KP on the floor. Tim misses a corner three. Indy timeout. Use it or lose it, and they used it. 89-96 3:40

LaVert to the hole. KP puts back Luka miss. LaVert with a poor play, then KP with a jumper. Brogdon three. Aargh. KP misses from distance. Brunson called for a blocking foul. LaVert from three. Timeout Dallas. Think that may be the dagger, folks. 93-104 1:40

Luka misses from the corner. Pacers turn it over. Turner blocks KP’s shot. Sabonis fouled, hits both free throws. Brunson misses wide open corner three. Brissett flings himself over Luka, called for a foul. Luka dribbles the ball out. 

93-106 FT

Horrible fourth quarter from Dallas, 13-24.  


ANALYSIS

Very weird scoring and shooting distribution tonight. 

Starters Dorian-Bullock-Powell combined for 6 points. 

Shooters Dorian, Reggie, and Maxi combined for 8 total FGAs. 

Only 4 Mavs had more than 5 points (Luka-KP-Brunson-Tim). Those four combined for 78 points. Three other starters totaled 6. Four other bench players added 9.

The Mavs were 4-29 from distance. Reggie 0-2, Luka 1-8, Brunson 0-1, Hardaway 1-9, Maxi 0-2.

Only 18 of Dallas’ 39 made baskets (46%) were assisted. 

Rebounding was also unusual. Luka led the Mavs with 9 boards. Brunson added 7. The big man rotation combined for 10 out of a total of 38 (KP 2, Powell 5, Moses 1, Maxi 2). Defensive rebounding rates were Mavs 57%, Pacers 69%. Pacers had 19 second-chance points, Mavs 14. 

On the positive side, the Mavs shot 59% on twos (10-17), and 68% in the paint (25-37). Point differentials were +14 on points from twos, -27 on points from threes, and a push on made free throws.

To make a long story short, the game was lost on horrible three-point shooting (4-29), poor rebounding, limited resistance on the defensive end, and a complete collapse in the  fourth quarter. As far as several of the 3&D guys not even taking shots, I am assuming that was not the game plan, particularly with them passing up looks and appearing not to want the ball at certain points in the game. 


PLAYER NOTES

DFS (38 min). Dorian had 4 points (1-3) and 6 rebounds. I know he is on the floor mainly for defense, and that box score stats don't tell the whole story, but he just has to do better than this. 

DONCIC (37). Luka had 27-9-9, but was 1-8 from three. He tweaked his ankle in the third quarter, and it looked like that may have affected his ability to get to the rim. In the first half, he was 7-8 on two point attempts; in the second, 3-9.

BRUNSON (31). Jalen had 14 points and 7 rebounds off the bench, but only 1 assist against 2 turnovers. He was a defensive liability, with Pacers repeatedly shooting over him. Kidd remarked that he was playing at a very high level before he got hurt, and he is working his way back. They are trying to play him with Luka as much as they can, to take some of the pressure off Luka, and that's another adjustment. 

PORZINGIS (31). KP put up 22 points on 9-17 shooting, and scored half the Mavs’ three-pointers, with two, while collecting only two rebounds.  KP ventured after the game that “it sucks to be us.” Looked distressed when asked why they're still losing in the same way. Said he knows they’re still making mistakes, and also shooting catastrophically badly, and that it's hard to win games like that. The only thing he can think of to do is try to clean up the mistakes and put in the work to improve the shooting and get better in late-game situations. Thinks they need to get with Luka and see how they can give him more help. 

KP said that the team is actually doing a lot of shooting drills, but it hasn’t translated to games. He didn't blame guys for not getting to the rim -- said they try to get to the paint and kick out to open shooters, and it’s on the shooters to make those looks. Harris and Dameris thought it was a good sign that KP talked in terms of helping Luka, rather than complaining about his role or about how his touches.

HARDAWAY (30). Tim led the bench with 15 points, being 6-6 inside the arc, but 1-9 outside. He was in the closing unit, along with Luka, Brunson, DFS and KP, but did not score in the clutch. 

POWELL (22). Dwight had 2 points and 5 rebounds in his role as starting center. The Bally crew did not fault him for taking only one shot, as he “didn’t get many opportunities.” He had a couple of important offensive boards, but was not able to match up with the Pacers’ multi-talented big men. 

BULLOCK (21). Reggie's only stats were two missed shots, a rebound, and one turnover in a starting role. Such a poor performance. The Bally guys speculated that the downside for guys like Reggie of playing with guys like Luka or Harden is that they might hit you with a pass literally anywhere on the court, so you don’t know where your shots are coming from, and it’s hard for some of these players to get used to that and be ready to shoot from any location. I only sort of buy that. This guy was supposed to be ready to hit the ground running, wasn't he?

MENTIONS. MAXI (13) had two made free throws, three missed shots, two rebounds, and an assist. That’s just not good enough, even in only 13 minutes. I wonder if Maxi is playing with an undisclosed injury or something of the like. He has really faded of late. MOSES (9) had another energetic appearance, with 5 points and 1 rebound. GREEN and FRANK combined for 9 minutes, 2 points, and 1 rebound. 

BURKE and BOBAN were DNP-CDs. No word on the return of STERLING or WILLIE

PACERS. For a team that is rumored to be on the verge of blowing it up, they looked pretty darned good. LaVert led his team with 26-6-5. Sabonis torched the Mavs with 24 points, 9-13 shooting, 10 boards, and 7 assists, leading our boys on a merry chase in the paint. Local product Myles Turner had 17 and 7. Malcolm Brogdon did not shoot well (5-15), but got hot late and put up 12 points to go with 8 assists. 


OBSERVATIONS

Bally. The crew looked at several factors in the loss. 

-- Very poor three-point shooting, obviously. 

-- Very poor clutch play, with the Mavs being outscored 14-4 in that period. Indiana is one of the worst clutch teams in the league, but totally outplayed the Mavs, who were passive, avoided shooting, and provided little resistance at the rim. 

-- Poor defense and rebounding. They observed that Rick apparently adjusted the game plan, knowing that the Mavs are weak at interior defense and rebounding, and the Pacers ended up with 19 second-chance points. Not only were the guys not shooting, they weren’t doing the other things to contribute, like rebounding and getting back on D. 

-- Very poor shooting.  They opined that DFS, Bullock and Maxi just can’t be out there for all those minutes and take only a couple of shots each. Devin commented that shooting drills are helpful, but they really don’t replicate game conditions. With some of the role players trying to diversify their offensive games, they don’t have the opportunity to just stand in one spot and wait for a pass any more. Cuban has been atwitter lately with the idea that the new ball is responsible for his team's poor shooting. Dameris, Harris, and Stein pooh-poohed that theory, commenting, among other things, that Steph seems to be managing just fine with the new ball. (Ouch!)

-- RumorsThe Bally guys also speculated that the Pacers may have had a little extra motivation, as a result of being rumored to be available in a fire sale.


Kidd. Kidd summed up the loss by saying that the Pacers were aggressive, picking Luka up early the whole game, and as usual, we couldn’t shoot threes. Noted that, at some point, the guys have to take responsibility for making shots. He felt that the missed shots were often followed by the team not getting back in transition, making matters even worse. Sounding frustrated, he said that the guys are doing well in practice, and sometimes it’s a mental thing in games. 

He rejected the suggestion that they try to take fewer threes. They can’t stop making the kick-out pass. That would only result in tougher twos, getting blocked at the rim, etc. He noted that they are very successful at creating open looks, but after this many games, they have to start knocking them down. 


This was a reasonably entertaining game, at least up until the second half of the fourth quarter, with the Mavs earning only 4 points on 2 made baskets in the last six minutes. Going in to the contest, I really thought this was a game we could win, and I found it frustrating and a little bewildering to see them fall apart in just the same way they usually do. I sometimes feel like these game analyses are just the same song, umpteenth verse, over and over and over.

Mavs drop below .500 again, at 12-13. 


NEXT. We face OKC on Sunday. SURELY, that’s a game we can win. 

Isn’t it? 
I appreciate these game recaps as much as anyone, and I genuinely feel bad for you having to trudge through all that mess, when every game seems to be summed up by saying:

“I expect the other team to hit their open threes and us to miss ours”.

That’s almost literally the whole situation right now. So frustrating…

Anyway, thank you for doing God’s work night in, night out.
Maxi looked lost at times.

That last possession where KP got blocked... He, Luka, and Brunson looked completely lost 

There was a possession a couple of minutes earlier where Luka and KP ran the pick and roll (which killed me when people say they didn't run the pnr)...KP slips it, and goes right into post up in the lane that apparently Luka was trying to drive into, and KP starts trying to get out of the way, and it was like when you are trying to get out of someone's way and instead you just keep getting more in their way.  Luka basically ends up driving into KP as it looks like he's trying to run away.  It was both comical and sad.
(12-11-2021, 08:51 AM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]Maxi looked lost at times.

That last possession where KP got blocked... He, Luka, and Brunson looked completely lost 

There was a possession a couple of minutes earlier where Luka and KP ran the pick and roll (which killed me when people say they didn't run the pnr)...KP slips it, and goes right into post up in the lane that apparently Luka was trying to drive into, and KP starts trying to get out of the way, and it was like when you are trying to get out of someone's way and instead you just keep getting more in their way.  Luka basically ends up driving into KP as it looks like he's trying to run away.  It was both comical and sad.

I commented on this a couple of games ago.

Is it bad scheme?  Bad intuition/feel for whats going on by KP?

I posted about this stating I felt really bad for KP.   Watch KP on offense...he is constantly moving around trying to go to work.   He will go down low and pin his man...if Luka doesnt pass to him on the pin down...he is doesnt know if he should go back up top and set a screen for Luka,  clear out, post up his man in the high post.  

KP is genuinely trying to be helpful but it looks like confusion.

I see KP in the above situation a lot and it turns into what you describe...Luka eventually attacking the rim with KP and KP's defender in the box.  I have seen KP SO MANY times trying to help Luka and then have to scurry out of the way once Luka goes downhill.   KP is aware that he is clogging the paint...but he is looking for direction from Luka on what Luka is thinking...but Luka sometime just takes in to the hole and it looks like KP is clogging the lane.

Im not saying Luka is wrong or KP is right.   KP is aware of spacing by the way he tries to get out of the way for Luka.  I guess Luka and KP need better communication on what happens next if Luka doesnt give KP the inlet pass on a pin down?  Or should KP have a better understanding of the game and what is happening?  As in...Luka shouldnt have to direct him...KP should be able to read where the mismatches are on the court and move/clear out, set screen according to those mismatches?  Not blaming Luka...he is an offensive sefant...I just dont know why he charges the lane while KP is down there when KP is trying to help him.
One (depressing) observation.

On the Mavs repeated inability to play well in the 4th quarter, the league is generally a 4th quarter league. That is to say, with it being a long season, few games are won or lost in Q's 1-3. Instead, teams just try to stay close enough, then ratchet up the play in Q4 to grab a win. The bad teams don't have that extra level to jump to.

When you see a team that has 4th Q issues, it means they probably just lack the ability to elevate their play like the better teams can.

It looks like it's gonna be a long season for the Mavs.
(12-11-2021, 08:51 AM)TXBamanut Wrote: [ -> ]There was a possession a couple of minutes earlier where Luka and KP ran the pick and roll (which killed me when people say they didn't run the pnr)...KP slips it, and goes right into post up in the lane that apparently Luka was trying to drive into, and KP starts trying to get out of the way, and it was like when you are trying to get out of someone's way and instead you just keep getting more in their way.  Luka basically ends up driving into KP as it looks like he's trying to run away.  It was both comical and sad.
https://twitter.com/pandahank41/status/1...96098?s=20

Disorder, disorder, disooorder...
(12-11-2021, 09:11 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/pandahank41/status/1...96098?s=20

Disorder, disorder, disooorder...

This clip it seems like KP's fault.

I dont know what the Mavs are trying to do offensively.   Are they trying to get KP looks down low this year?  Is KP suppose to be in the paint or not?  KP should be able to read whats going on and know if Luka is about to go downhill or not.
Doesn´t really matter who is at fault. It´s always easy to blame the one without the ball. More important to find ways to fix this. Even in his " bad" position KP could turn around and set another screen for Luka. Take out the defender at the rim and create a layup. It´s a grey area but bigs like Adams or Valanciunas do it all the time. Basically and extension of the pick and roll. They set the initial screen. Roll to the rim and box in the help defender that could prevent the easy layup.



1:48, 3:40, 3:59, 4:09. No help defense / rim protection because Adams takes them out of the play.
I'm starting to think that Luka's offensive genius is part of the problem. He plays instinctively and the opposing team has no clue what will happen next. Unfortunately his own teammates have no clue either, they have to react on what Luka does and thus have no advantage on the defense.

Additionally, Luka has a tendency to overcomplicate things. How often do you think he has an open layup at the rim and he goes up and makes the cross-court pass to the 3pt line, which is so difficult that it is not very accurate, so not a clean rhythm catch-and-shoot for his teammate or a defender reacts faster and steals it. Luka sees options that others might not see, but does not judge the risk correctly. Same with his tendency for risky long outlet passes that quite often lead to a turnover.

I think Luka needs to play a bit less risky even if it takes away from his offensive effectiveness a bit.
(12-12-2021, 08:03 AM)Halfnir Wrote: [ -> ]I'm starting to think that Luka's offensive genius is part of the problem. He plays instinctively and the opposing team has no clue what will happen next. Unfortunately his own teammates have no clue either, they have to react on what Luka does and thus have no advantage on the defense.

Additionally, Luka has a tendency to overcomplicate things. How often do you think he has an open layup at the rim and he goes up and makes the cross-court pass to the 3pt line, which is so difficult that it is not very accurate, so not a clean rhythm catch-and-shoot for his teammate or a defender reacts faster and steals it. Luka sees options that others might not see, but does not judge the risk correctly. Same with his tendency for risky long outlet passes that quite often lead to a turnover.

I think Luka needs to play a bit less risky even if it takes away from his offensive effectiveness a bit.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/tu...s-per-game
(12-11-2021, 10:48 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn´t really matter who is at fault. It´s always easy to blame the one without the ball. More important to find ways to fix this. Even in his " bad" position KP could turn around and set another screen for Luka. Take out the defender at the rim and create a layup. It´s a grey area but bigs like Adams or Valanciunas do it all the time. Basically and extension of the pick and roll. They set the initial screen. Roll to the rim and box in the help defender that could prevent the easy layup.



1:48, 3:40, 3:59, 4:09. No help defense / rim protection because Adams takes them out of the play.

I agree with you if you are suggesting that KP should create a wall/screen in the paint for Luka to dribble past and pic off defender/s.  I dont know if I have seen KP do that much.

I see so many other teams do this but Mavs dont.  I think I have seen Powell do it a few times...but we dont seem to do it regularly like other teams.   Seems like I see it pretty often.  Anyway...maybe its something that KP can add to his paint game.
The fact is that we have three and half comparatively solid players: KP - when not injured, Luka - when not overweight, injured or looking to aggravate refs, Brunson and half of THJ - the other half is terrible. All the other players are like yo yo - good, bad,bad, good, good, good, bad, good, bad, bad etc ad nauseam. We are in the situation, where the magic cures for us simply does not exist. I think that we will be again a marginal playoff team, lasting one round. I am not looking for the guilty ones for this situation, as it is, what it is.

To quote mavsluvr from above: -- Very poor three-point shooting, Very poor clutch play, Poor defense and rebounding.Very poor shooting.  Kidd-Sounding frustrated, he said that the guys are doing well in practice, and sometimes it’s a mental thing in games. 
This was a reasonably entertaining game, at least up until the second half of the fourth quarter, with the Mavs earning only 4 points on 2 made baskets in the last six minutes. Going in to the contest, I really thought this was a game we could win, and I found it frustrating and a little bewildering to see them fall apart in just the same way they usually do. I sometimes feel like these game analyses are just the same song, umpteenth verse, over and over and over.

If not for Luka and KP I would say we tank. But this situation forces us are neither to paradise or to hell, but to the purgatory of eternal mediocricity.How long will our stars watch their best years trickle away into nothingness?
(12-11-2021, 07:02 AM)Paul Gasol Wrote: [ -> ]I appreciate these game recaps as much as anyone, and I genuinely feel bad for you having to trudge through all that mess, when every game seems to be summed up by saying:

“I expect the other team to hit their open threes and us to miss ours”.

That’s almost literally the whole situation right now. So frustrating…

Anyway, thank you for doing God’s work night in, night out.

Thanks, Paul, appreciate that. 

I am starting to get these deja vu feelings. Like, summarizing the team's 13-point fourth quarter, I was thinking, "Didn't I already write this? Am I on the right game?"

Maybe we can get at least a one-game break tonight, playing a tanking team and all.
The opportunity to act on player evaluation to this point increases Wednesday. This losing streak and playing without Luka is actually good for player and team evaluation. Nico and Kidd and others can increase the implementation of whatever their plans are. Doing this badly keeps us from fooling ourselves. 

For individual players the opportunity is now greater but comes with more pressure. First one to truly increase their value wins! I agree that only three guys are reliable plus Brunson who is his own decision process. 

I would love to see multiple limited players get traded by the deadline for as many as 3 reliable players who are not defensive liabilities and can score even if not wide open not to mention dribble without making us all gasp!
Mavs gave up Seth not once but twice, even though he played very well both times here 

Desmond Bane was at TCU and yet Bob V went with Josh G while Donnie recused himself on draft night.  We draft Shake Milton and give him up immediately. 

Yet Cuban will get into Twitter fights gloating how they have all the data and all the answers. Luka has things to improve upon as does KP. However the bottom line is the team lacks clear talent around them and that is not either of their fault.
(12-12-2021, 01:11 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: [ -> ]Mavs gave up Seth not once but twice, even though he played very well both times here 

Desmond Bane was at TCU and yet Bob V went with Josh G while Donnie recused himself on draft night.  We draft Shake Milton and give him up immediately. 

Yet Cuban will get into Twitter fights gloating how they have all the data and all the answers. Luka has things to improve upon as does KP. However the bottom line is the team lacks clear talent around them and that is not either of their fault.

This is a really good post.

I think our Front Offices ability to put this so called "good data" to good use is questionable.  To use a metaphor...their shooting percentage is sub 30%.

Is metaphor the right word?  I dont know.