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I know what you're thinking, "is he really bringing up this dead horse again to beat it for a hundredth time?" Yes. Yes I am.

I understand we have limited assets and should be watching how we use them carefully. I understand that Buddy Hield is not a perfect fit, has attitude issues, and is overpaid. And yet I'm asking to put all that aside and see what he does bring to this team that would radically transform this team.

His unreal 3pt shooting.

Buddy isn't just your run-of-the-mill elite marksman. No. In fact the only shooter that has kept pace with Buddy since he's entered the league is Steph Curry. Only Steph exceeds Buddy in terms of volume and efficiency these last 4 years* (Duncan Robinson is almost there but just falls short in terms of volume, same with Seth). 

One of the biggest blunders this team ever did was trading away Seth, who has been the most efficient 3pt shooter the last 4 years (44.7%) in the league for Josh Richardson. It was clear when Seth was on the court, teams had to guard him, giving Doncic room to operate. Buddy would not only bring back that kind of pressure, but also do so on even more volume, something we all opined Seth to do while he was here. 

Some stats on Buddy:
Buddy has made more 3's in the last 3 years than Seth Curry has made in his entire career (843 to 585).
-Buddy's worst year as a pro (his rookie year) saw him average 39% from 3, and made 148 threes total. Good for 29th in the league. Seth Curry best year as a pro saw him make 145 threes
- Buddy has 1167 made 3's in his career. He's made the most 3's in the shortest amount of time in NBA history. He beat Steph Curry by 8 games.
- THJ has 944 made threes in his entire 7 year career, Buddy eclipsed that in less than 4 years. 

Buddy's level of shooting is literally only matched by Steph Curry. He's arguably a better shooter than Klay Thompson, Ray Allen, and Reggie Miller. His only issue is that is probably his only elite skill. He isn't a great defender. He's not a ball handler. He's not a play maker. But man, can he shoot it.


Why I'm so keen on acquiring Buddy is seeing how modern offenses run by successful franchises. The Warriors and the Heat made the finals the last 6 years using this method. Take a look at this video and watch from 50 seconds onward if you want to skip ahead. Miami and the Warriors use cross screen actions to create easy cuts and open looks, forcing the defenses to choose between stopping a 3 or a layup. If you have deadly shooters like Duncan Robinson, Klay Thompson, and Steph Curry,  this makes it nearly impossible. We can try and recreate that here with THJ+Buddy+Bullock. That kind of shooting would form one of the most formidable trios in the league. 

Second reason, Cost: Buddy is at an all time low from a cost prospective. The Kings were ready to trade him for a package involving Kuzma+Harrell and a protected 1st. The Mavs could easily match that from a talent perspective with whats on the roster currently. I can see the Kings being enticed by Kleber especially if it means replacing Bagley with him as the Mavs could absorb Bagley with a TPE. 

All I am saying is Buddy is the truth. We need some more talent. He's a perfect buy low candidate and would fit remarkably well next to Luka. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5wWHZ_KrWY&ab_channel=ThinkingBasketball

Just go into the tax and have Cuban pay up for his shit roster building abilities. I’m onboard with flooding this team with talent no matter how expensive it gets. It’s his money and if he continues to do whatever BS they are doing Luka will leave eventually and rightfully so (he deserves a non-shot front office).

Buddy is overpaid, I doubt you’ll need assets to get him. Just cobble up some contracts and aim for a swap. He’s redundant with THjr but it doesn’t really matter at this point.  

We need one or better multiple Joe Johnson type of trades (yeah the bad Brooklyn one). 

Forget building a healthy payroll with a good asset base. The Mavs are too incompetent for that. Spend the money and don’t look back.

Bagley + Hield works for KP as the principles.

get'r done

(10-27-2021, 03:39 PM)cow Wrote: [ -> ]Bagley + Hield works for KP as the principles.

I don't think the Mavs would shake the totem pole that much. At least not this early. 

Given how SAC was ready to give up Buddy for an assortment of role players that weren't all that great I think they're valuation of him isn't too high.

He's expensive and one-dimensional, but getting him would bring back a reliable skill we've sorely been missing since we traded Seth. 

Mavs could theoretically do a 2 part trade couldn't they? Accept Bagley into the TPE and then in a separate trade Buddy for 14.5m of salary, some combination of these role players in Burke/Powell/Maxi/Green/S.Brown/WCS and some picks. I think both the Kings and Buddy are ready to move on.

(10-27-2021, 04:01 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think the Mavs would shake the totem pole that much. At least not this early. 

Given how SAC was ready to give up Buddy for an assortment of role players that weren't all that great I think they're valuation of him isn't too high.

He's expensive and one-dimensional, but getting him would bring back a reliable skill we've sorely been missing since we traded Seth. 

Mavs could theoretically do a 2 part trade couldn't they? Accept Bagley into the TPE and then in a separate trade Buddy for 14.5m of salary, some combination of these role players in Burke/Powell/Maxi/Green/S.Brown/WCS and some picks. I think both the Kings and Buddy are ready to move on.

I don't think the Mavs would do it either.  I'm not sure Sacramento would accept the trade either.  Short of Maxi, that Mavericks Pu Pu platter pales in comparison to Kuzma/Harrell.  I'm just starting to think we are looking at a Harrison Barnes like return for when we do finally decide to pull the trigger.  Maybe that's why the Kings idea came to me in the first place.

(10-27-2021, 04:01 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think the Mavs would shake the totem pole that much. At least not this early. 

Given how SAC was ready to give up Buddy for an assortment of role players that weren't all that great I think they're valuation of him isn't too high.

He's expensive and one-dimensional, but getting him would bring back a reliable skill we've sorely been missing since we traded Seth. 

Mavs could theoretically do a 2 part trade couldn't they? Accept Bagley into the TPE and then in a separate trade Buddy for 14.5m of salary, some combination of these role players in Burke/Powell/Maxi/Green/S.Brown/WCS and some picks. I think both the Kings and Buddy are ready to move on.

I don´t know what demanding too much for Bagley looks like, but it´s probably more than those six. I´m not even sure the Kings would do Bagley/Hield for Porzingis, but I´d like to find out.

12/6 on 30/23/73 shooting.

(10-27-2021, 06:20 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]I don´t know what demanding too much for Bagley looks like, but it´s probably more than those six. I´m not even sure the Kings would do Bagley/Hield for Porzingis, but I´d like to find out.

12/6 on 30/23/73 shooting.

They owe us one for the Harrison trade.  

(10-27-2021, 06:20 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: [ -> ]I don´t know what demanding too much for Bagley looks like, but it´s probably more than those six. I´m not even sure the Kings would do Bagley/Hield for Porzingis, but I´d like to find out.

12/6 on 30/23/73 shooting.

Yeah I don't know.


Bagley and his camp have been quietly forcing themselves out of Sac for the last two years. Surprisingly, Bagley has been even less reliable than KP when it comes to staying on the court. He's about as negative as an asset as they come. KP hasn't had a great start at all scoring, but his defense has returned in full force so he isn't just dead weight.

I do think Hield's trade value is lower than we think, and Bagley's is as rock bottom as you're painting KP's value. Maybe even lower.

I’d do this as a KP trade where we’re also getting Holmes, so it can’t happen right away.

(10-28-2021, 04:40 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I don't know.


Bagley and his camp have been quietly forcing themselves out of Sac for the last two years. Surprisingly, Bagley has been even less reliable than KP when it comes to staying on the court. He's about as negative as an asset as they come. KP hasn't had a great start at all scoring, but his defense has returned in full force so he isn't just dead weight.

I do think Hield's trade value is lower than we think, and Bagley's is as rock bottom as you're painting KP's value. Maybe even lower.

I´m not sure I buy that Porzingis defense is back either/much better than our other bigs until we start to actually play against better teams. Maybe it´s the team defense, maybe it´s the opposition. If you look at his stats. He´s always around 2.0 blocks and his rebounding is still down. AND he´s hurt/injured again, THREE games into the season, which didn´t sound like a planned rest.

(10-28-2021, 07:12 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: [ -> ]I’d do this as a KP trade where we’re also getting Holmes, so it can’t happen right away.

Putting on my Kings hat, I'd say "no".