09-01-2021, 07:30 AM
There was also that quote on twitter from Cuban last year defending how elite the Luka and KP pick-and-roll was, but then we almost never saw it in action in the games. So weird.
(09-01-2021, 07:11 AM)omahen Wrote: [ -> ]I don't agree with this one. When KP has "half a step" advantage he can utilize his length and mobility. His PnR with Luka was good. His problem regarding inability to punish smaller player is coming from situations where previous action didn't make that half a step advantage.
(09-01-2021, 07:27 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]100% THIS. That facet of Maxi's game disappearing last year was bizarre and inexplicable to me.
(09-01-2021, 07:30 AM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]There was also that quote on twitter from Cuban last year defending how elite the Luka and KP pick-and-roll was, but then we almost never saw it in action in the games. So weird.
(09-01-2021, 11:38 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: [ -> ]Because it is easy to take away the KP-Luka pick and roll. Put a wing/guard on KP. Switch. That´s what most teams did. Which brings us back to the KP vs the mismatch debate. If he could punish smaller defenders teams wouldn´t be able to switch as easily.
(09-01-2021, 03:40 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Bullock. Dameris expects him to start.
(09-01-2021, 03:40 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Dameris hopes to see Green play around 15 minutes a night this season and appear in most every game.
(09-01-2021, 03:40 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ] Mavs are spending a lot of time trying to put some structure into what has frankly been a very disorganized front office. A very thoroughgoing effort.
(09-01-2021, 03:40 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Ben Simmons intends to be a training-camp holdout. Dameris, who knows Morey, thinks he will probably have to come down a little on his price to make a deal -- maybe, for example, CJ instead of Dame. Ben purports to only interested be in the CA teams for now, so good luck to him with that. Mavs could possibly try to get involved as a third team or in some other tangential manner if a deal develops.
(09-01-2021, 03:40 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]MF somewhat pompously declared that, "as an Olympic broadcaster,"...
(09-01-2021, 04:01 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]AMEN
(09-01-2021, 05:07 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Bro, don't be so hard on yourself! Starting from a Ticket Ticker guy and ascending all the way to OLYMPIC BROADCASTER, with some basketball and soccer mixed in as well, is worth feeling good about. Go ahead and be as pompous as you want!Iirc, Dameris mentioned that he didn't expect Bullock to replace THJ in the starting lineup.
Well, a guy needs to be able to laugh at himself, don't you think, lol?
Yes, sir! Bullock and DFS starting together is the way to go!
(09-01-2021, 05:13 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]You think maybe Luka-THJ-Bullock-DFS-KP?
(09-01-2021, 12:01 PM)Kammrath Wrote: [ -> ]When I think of KP rolling most effectively, it is as a lob threat. Yet I don't see the Mavs trying that often. Even if the D switches the pick and roll, we have seen how DP and many others can still take advantage of this with the lob threat. DP isn't a post up threat against a smaller player, yet he is really effective in the pick and roll. I know KP doesn't set good screens and take angles well, but I don't understand why he is not being actively trained to BE this kind of pick and roll lob threat. He has the length and athleticism for it. And it is great when it occasionally surfaces. But why not more?This topic has always needed more attention. Luka-KP PnR/PnP two man game should be a regular way we score. Only reason i see why KP doesn’t roll more is injury concerns? It’s never made sense
(09-01-2021, 05:19 PM)fifteenth Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, that's what I prefer, but my post was mostly in defiance of what the presence of all three of Maxi, DP and WCS on the roster means. Surely one of those three starts, or one is completely out of the rotation, which I doubt is the case. And I don't think THJ should come off the bench.Yes, I can see that. In trying to mix and match, I tend to group these guys by function into 3&D guys (Bullock, DFS, Maxi), non-shooting bigs (DP, WCS, Boban), and scorers (LD, KP, THJ, JB).
So....
@"mavsluvr", having said that, I think all of THJ, DFS and Bullock are headed for starter (or close to it) minutes.
(09-01-2021, 07:12 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I can see that. In trying to mix and match, I tend to group these guys by function into 3&D guys (Bullock, DFS, Maxi), non-shooting bigs (DP, WCS, Boban), and scorers (LD, KP, THJ, JB).
Of course, there are other ways to look at it, and I don't know how the Mavs see it shaking out. It tends not to categorize a guy like Josh Green, for example, who doesn't fit into any of those pockets.
(09-01-2021, 05:13 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]You think maybe Luka-THJ-Bullock-DFS-KP?
(09-01-2021, 07:36 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]I think that is a reasonable way to look at it, but it begs the question of how many of each type is optimal? One NSB, two 3&D’s and two scorers? IF so, then the starting lineup has too many scorers. Does the same apply with Brunson leading the O? Who is the other scorer if the other three scorers started? Or, does Brunson need more scorers around him than Luka? But, how do you do that if THJ is starting? If Brunson needs scoring help, then either THJ doesn’t start, Dragic is coming or we aren’t platooning lineups.
(09-01-2021, 07:55 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: [ -> ]This is what I'd try first, probably.
But, if we accept Bullock as a starter as a given, I suppose Lua/THJ/Bullock/Kleber/KP is also a strong possibility. Even Powell in place of Kleber, for that matter, though I think that's less likely than the other two.
(09-01-2021, 08:47 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: [ -> ]
I think you pretty much have to have at least two scorers at a time, even (especially?) when one of them is JB. I think they could work the lineups so that JB always shares the court with at least one of Luka, KP, or THJ -- didn't they try to make that work during the season?
If they have to have a unit with only one guy who can create his shot on the court, I would almost put Luka out there for a few minutes with DP/WCS and three shooters, as opposed to taking that chance with JB in an important game.
(09-02-2021, 01:54 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: [ -> ]More on rotations used last season when I have more time. Until then, new piece from Tim Cato. He thinks KP, Luka, THJ and DFS are locks to start (part one). In this pieces, he looks at fifth starter (he likes Bullock, but thinks the job will be split based on matchup between Powell and Bullock with Maxi getting occasional starts against very specific matchups).Very interesting. Will summarize below.
He then goes into the rest of the "rotation" which he defines as Brunson, Sterling B. and Green. Note, he's high on Brown getting regular minutes and not on Willie (I guess the why will come in part three).
https://theathletic.com/2790178/2021/09/...osh-green/